(Day)light robbery
Dec 12th 2011 | 1:16 am
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They have been doing it for thousands of years, living in dire poverty and many of them starving. Read a bit about life in the spanish campo until about 30 yrs ago. How would the kids "marry well", do you mean "well" as in someone whose family has 12 cows instead of your ten
Dec 12th 2011 | 1:41 am
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My advice is to buy a plot of land in Spain, preferrably one whether the weather isnt so harsh and that has fertile land
Make sure the building is well insulated. Then stock it out with mod-cons
Then aim to live the way your grandparents did. You will have a big advantage because you will have washing machines, electricity, running water etc. You can do all this for about 100K. Then you'll have a head start for when the people start heading back to the villages which I can see in the next 10 years
Spain has a huge natural resource that it has ignored through the boom years. Thousands of wonderful villages surrounded by fertile land. Use the wealth people have built up to move out the cities and back there. The quality of life will be way better than being paid misrable wages in an ugly neighbourhood of the city - and eventually you and your children will be happier
I'm seriously thinking about it, as long as I can take my internet
Make sure the building is well insulated. Then stock it out with mod-cons
Then aim to live the way your grandparents did. You will have a big advantage because you will have washing machines, electricity, running water etc. You can do all this for about 100K. Then you'll have a head start for when the people start heading back to the villages which I can see in the next 10 years
Spain has a huge natural resource that it has ignored through the boom years. Thousands of wonderful villages surrounded by fertile land. Use the wealth people have built up to move out the cities and back there. The quality of life will be way better than being paid misrable wages in an ugly neighbourhood of the city - and eventually you and your children will be happier
I'm seriously thinking about it, as long as I can take my internet
You have a flat in London that you can sell, buy the land, get your new gadgets, look for livestock and plant the spuds and other staples that you can eat, a cow for milk, and start a breeding programme for future labourers.
And Bobs your uncle, do it for your kids, you believe it is the future, give yourself a head start over those who will be forced into it, as you say.
Dec 12th 2011 | 1:46 am
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Dec 12th 2011 | 1:48 am
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Why dont you do it then?
You have a flat in London that you can sell, buy the land, get your new gadgets, look for livestock and plant the spuds and other staples that you can eat, a cow for milk, and start a breeding programme for future labourers.
And Bobs your uncle, do it for your kids, you believe it is the future, give yourself a head start over those who will be forced into it, as you say.
You have a flat in London that you can sell, buy the land, get your new gadgets, look for livestock and plant the spuds and other staples that you can eat, a cow for milk, and start a breeding programme for future labourers.
And Bobs your uncle, do it for your kids, you believe it is the future, give yourself a head start over those who will be forced into it, as you say.
Then I can hire some staff who can sleep in the outbuildings and they can do all the work in return for food and lodgings
Dec 12th 2011 | 2:05 am
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I think you are way behind the times.
The Chinese have been getting into the quality hi-tec market for quite a while now.
For instance the have bought out and taken over the highly rated Swedish Motor Industry.
They now own both Saab and Volvo and have already begun the process of switching production to China.
I would never under estimate them and IMHO it's simply a matter of time before they take over the West, lock stock and barrel.
The Chinese have been getting into the quality hi-tec market for quite a while now.
For instance the have bought out and taken over the highly rated Swedish Motor Industry.
They now own both Saab and Volvo and have already begun the process of switching production to China.
I would never under estimate them and IMHO it's simply a matter of time before they take over the West, lock stock and barrel.
With your model I expect that they will have to eat us Westerners because as we will not have any money what other use will there be for us?
Dec 12th 2011 | 2:11 am
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However, I bet at least 80% of the stuff in your house was actually made in China
What countries do you not mind buying from? Is Japan OK but Indonesia out for example?
I do have a general rule that I wont buy clothes from China because they fall apart. Although I do make exceptions because sometimes I cant justify the price difference
Dec 12th 2011 | 3:24 am
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Anything made by Apple. All from China
Where do you buy your clothes? All highstreet shops and supermarkets make their clothes in China
Obviously I'll never be able to prove it, but I would bet a lot of money that you have a lot of things made in China
Dec 12th 2011 | 3:59 am
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Mobile 'phone, Computer and or batteries, TV,DVD player etc.
And that's without clothes, trainers. Designed in the Uk manufactured in China.
Not trainers in my case as I don't wear them!
Dec 12th 2011 | 4:17 am
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OH & son might have something to say about it, but for 10 acres OF FLAT LAND I'd consider finding myself a tractor....
Ever been to Ikea? They make most their stuff in China nowadays
Anything made by Apple. All from China
Where do you buy your clothes? All highstreet shops and supermarkets make their clothes in China
Obviously I'll never be able to prove it, but I would bet a lot of money that you have a lot of things made in China
Anything made by Apple. All from China
Where do you buy your clothes? All highstreet shops and supermarkets make their clothes in China
Obviously I'll never be able to prove it, but I would bet a lot of money that you have a lot of things made in China
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Dec 12th 2011 | 5:05 am
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Just a hypothetical, chaps, but who here knows the provenance of every item in their possession/in their house,home,car etc? I for one don't. I'm betting that though I know a lot are of Chinese production, and some I know are from other source producers: Argentina, Spain, UK (admittedly not many
) however there are probably loads I would have barely glanced at when making the purchase. Value for money, price per kg, contents, style, suitability, size, etc, yes. But made where? Not guaranteed every single time. Or am I alone in this?
) however there are probably loads I would have barely glanced at when making the purchase. Value for money, price per kg, contents, style, suitability, size, etc, yes. But made where? Not guaranteed every single time. Or am I alone in this?
Dec 12th 2011 | 5:05 am
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Come the day you could find yourself to be the equivalent of a sweat shop slave or a paddy field worker desperate for a bowl of rice.
Dec 12th 2011 | 5:22 am
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If Cmans predictions come true,that we all live like rural Spanish from a generation or two ago, then men will have to change their mindset when looking for a suitable partner/wife.
I am sure a strong right arm for churning the butter will be a sought after asset.
I am sure a strong right arm for churning the butter will be a sought after asset.
