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Arr right cheers Matt, didnt realise the extent of the rumour going round. Though it is an easy option for an intruder to easily cs gas someone with a spray, hence me taking the story for gospel so to speak.

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There was a tread last year about it from memory, it was pretty well argued by them in the know.

Its one of those rumours that taps into our greatest fears really, to be "attacked" when we are at our weakest, most vulnerable.........in this case when we are asleep.

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Well I'm not ever going to America... apparently they even steal your kidneys over there!

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Those caterpillars keep stealing my lettuce.

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Maybe I`ve just picked up on the myth then, but here`s a link to a news article about a couple in Puerto Banus who were gassed.

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co...._by_gangs.html

It is possible to pump gas on the top end split system units as the Evap is normal placed in an outside location, simply place gas delivery into the duct and allow the air fans to circulate the gas.

You cannot put the gas into the System as its sealed, the reason for using the Air Con is due to the fan and ducting.Whoever thought the Gas was entered into the Refigeration system didn`t read the right myth.A room air volume vents itself ruffly 4 times an hour, this it increased when the air con is used.

Which is why people die of Carbon Monoxide poisoning as the levels arn`t high.

But I`m no expert and could be wrong.

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You would need a lorry to bring the amount of gas to take out the oxygen in a bedroom, and more if the door was open.
Work out the cubic mtrs. lol

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So why do we need Carbon Monoxide detectors then.;)

When 150 people were killed in the Moscow cinema using sleeping gas i didn`t see lorries being used only a few barrels for a huge cinema.

BZ gas is widly available in the eastern parts of Europe.

Check out this from the US

http://www.camptotal.nl/NL/index1.html

They use gas to knock out campers and people in motorhomes, so this company have developed an alarm/detector.

The link does take you to the page so just type "sleeping gas alarm" in the search tool

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Carbon monoxide is generated in the house itself and is caused by burning any fossilized fuel.
It is totally safe when vented correctly.
I don`t know the bit about Russia but if it was in the Sun then its got to be true innit.
You believe what you want about gas robberies, but I reckon its impossible.
Just a scare mongering myth, and of course it didn`t give his paper any publicity did it. ;-)

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I`m a Gas/Refrigeration Engineer.

Unless an open flued appliance is incorrectly burning.

You`ve never heard of the Chechen rebels who held 700 hostage in a Moscow cinema in 2002.

650 were rescued alive, 117 were killed from gas inhalation, 150 needed intensive care.

Google it, its been happening regularly in the US for a number of years and you don`t need lorry loads.

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The attack and subsequent blundered rescue was worldwide news.

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hi every one we think it was done to order we are in a small village near sorbas almeria .are house had the metal shutters filed off cooker taken fridge taken tv but nothing els next door boiler off wall. house in next village cement and bricks. the locals are very upset never known it before.so if you see some one with a lovely stainless steel 4 ringed oven its mine.helen .

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My wife was talking to a police officer in Denia some weeks back and he told her that although they had a relatively low crime rate they had a burgeoning east european problem.

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This happened to friends of ours further inland. Their house had just been refurbished and when they came out from the UK to see it two weeks later everything had gone - solar panels, internal doors, cooker, fridge, house completely stripped. :( Obviously destined for another refurbishment.

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I`ve spoken to people in Elvira, Costa Del Sol who have had burglers simply breaking in the middle of the day with people in the house, they`ve simply turned up, walked in and threatened people then help themselves.

I called to a Russian Expat once, who got talking about crime, she warned me that most of the Russians in Marbella are well connected and not the type to piss off, I believed her when her driver carried some shopping bags into the villa.

Malaga city was a no go area back in the early 1980s-1990`s, even this year Interpol listed the Costa Del Sol having 18,000 known foreign criminals from 70 countries, this year a trawler was stopped and searched, they found £200 Million worth of Cocaine, they organisers where arrested on the Costa del Sol.

With 8 million visitors and its location with Gibraltar and Morrocco many groups use it to clean there dirty money.

When the paseta was changing to Euro`s the amount of Spaniards who suddenly paid for property and goods in cash trebled overnight.With many having second homes built using cash from the mattress of many normal people.

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Only sad or scary stories sell papers.