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Re: Costa Esuri Golf
Originally Posted by AndyS
(Post 8702812)
Sad to say I can only confirm Steve's comments. All looks reasonable from a distance but when you get up close it's a different story. Greens are being maintained and some tees but I checked three holes and found tall, woody weeds growing through the 4th tee. None of the surrounds to greens and tees are being cut, fairways brown and bunkers full of weed. It really is quite a depressing sight. I'm not sure asking in the pro shop will elicit an honest answer but will give it a go anyway. West course looks fine.
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Re: Costa Esuri Golf
Originally Posted by AndyS
(Post 8702812)
Sad to say I can only confirm Steve's comments. All looks reasonable from a distance but when you get up close it's a different story. Greens are being maintained and some tees but I checked three holes and found tall, woody weeds growing through the 4th tee. None of the surrounds to greens and tees are being cut, fairways brown and bunkers full of weed. It really is quite a depressing sight. I'm not sure asking in the pro shop will elicit an honest answer but will give it a go anyway. West course looks fine.
Don't really buy that answer to be honest as it sounds unplayable. If anyone does find out anything it would be really good to know before signing the deeds. Also has Jags reopened yet? |
Re: Costa Esuri Golf
Originally Posted by adiemac
(Post 8702987)
Having recovered our money from Tasa we decided to have another go and are on the brink of signing the deeds on a 2 bed top floor in Las Encinas from CAM. This however is a very worrying development. i have asked, through Jorge Iquacel, what the current status is and the answer from Rodrigo of Aymerich was 'The Golf Course is not closed but until October when the golf season will start the maintenance of the Golf Course will be on a minimum level, in October they will restart with the full maintenance of it.'
Don't really buy that answer to be honest as it sounds unplayable. If anyone does find out anything it would be really good to know before signing the deeds. Also has Jags reopened yet? |
Re: Costa Esuri Golf
Originally Posted by adiemac
(Post 8702987)
Having recovered our money from Tasa we decided to have another go and are on the brink of signing the deeds on a 2 bed top floor in Las Encinas from CAM. This however is a very worrying development. i have asked, through Jorge Iquacel, what the current status is and the answer from Rodrigo of Aymerich was 'The Golf Course is not closed but until October when the golf season will start the maintenance of the Golf Course will be on a minimum level, in October they will restart with the full maintenance of it.'
Don't really buy that answer to be honest as it sounds unplayable. If anyone does find out anything it would be really good to know before signing the deeds. Also has Jags reopened yet? Welcome to La Encinas |
Re: Costa Esuri Golf
Originally Posted by adiemac
(Post 8702987)
Having recovered our money from Tasa we decided to have another go and are on the brink of signing the deeds on a 2 bed top floor in Las Encinas from CAM. This however is a very worrying development. i have asked, through Jorge Iquacel, what the current status is and the answer from Rodrigo of Aymerich was 'The Golf Course is not closed but until October when the golf season will start the maintenance of the Golf Course will be on a minimum level, in October they will restart with the full maintenance of it.'
Don't really buy that answer to be honest as it sounds unplayable. If anyone does find out anything it would be really good to know before signing the deeds. Also has Jags reopened yet? I would imagine if buying through Cam you are getting it at a good discount?,and given the location,spain/Potugal/2 golf courses you need to be thinking long term. We visited Jags in the Easter,and am sure he will reopen as soon as allowed,having invested heavily into such a project i doubt he would walk away,and it will be a great asset to Esuri,but Esuri will survive no matter,we personally love the place and the people we meet. |
Re: Costa Esuri Golf
Originally Posted by Teed Up
(Post 8703521)
We have a place in Las Encinas,overlooking the course and its far from unplayable,greens are cut every day and watered at least twice a day. but as stated the demand is very low,so they are keeping all the play on the old course.
I would imagine if buying through Cam you are getting it at a good discount?,and given the location,spain/Potugal/2 golf courses you need to be thinking long term. We visited Jags in the Easter,and am sure he will reopen as soon as allowed,having invested heavily into such a project i doubt he would walk away,and it will be a great asset to Esuri,but Esuri will survive no matter,we personally love the place and the people we meet. |
Re: Costa Esuri Golf
Originally Posted by Teed Up
(Post 8703521)
We have a place in Las Encinas,overlooking the course and its far from unplayable,greens are cut every day and watered at least twice a day. but as stated the demand is very low,so they are keeping all the play on the old course.
I would imagine if buying through Cam you are getting it at a good discount?,and given the location,spain/Potugal/2 golf courses you need to be thinking long term. We visited Jags in the Easter,and am sure he will reopen as soon as allowed,having invested heavily into such a project i doubt he would walk away,and it will be a great asset to Esuri,but Esuri will survive no matter,we personally love the place and the people we meet. I would advise this person to hold out for a little while. October is only 2.5 months away. By then he/she will have a clear picture of the likely reopening of the golf course and indeed if Jag gets his place up and running again. The property he was going to buy will still be for sale or if not one like it and the exchange rate should be better. Hang on. I say. |
Re: Costa Esuri Golf
Originally Posted by adiemac
(Post 8703902)
We are of course thinking long term it's just that with the problems we had previously with TASA we are a little nervous. But good to have your view on the condition of the course.
Earlier this year BBVA have taken over all unsold apartments off Fadesa in the blocks facing the Golf Course. They are being sold by Anida their Estate Agency arm and are on their Website. Since Easter I have noticed that there have been a large influx of Spanish people some who live there and many who have bought as holiday homes. The side of block 14 which my apartment faces has approx 18 apartments. Before Easter at best 3 apartments were occupied, now about 12 have been occupied. If the other 7/8 blocks have progressed as half as well it can only be good for the community and CE overall. The finances are much better because BBVA pay their community charges. More people should result in more opportunities and hopefully more services on CE and more business for the Golf Courses. My personal opinion is that things are looking more positive each time I go to CE. |
Re: Costa Esuri Golf
Originally Posted by guesswork
(Post 8705234)
I have had an apartment on Las Encinas for over 2 and 1/2 years now. Initially it was very worrying because Fadesa had only sold approx 130 apartments out of 430. Fadesa were not paying any Community fees on their properties and money was very short for any maintenance.
Earlier this year BBVA have taken over all unsold apartments off Fadesa in the blocks facing the Golf Course. They are being sold by Anida their Estate Agency arm and are on their Website. Since Easter I have noticed that there have been a large influx of Spanish people some who live there and many who have bought as holiday homes. The side of block 14 which my apartment faces has approx 18 apartments. Before Easter at best 3 apartments were occupied, now about 12 have been occupied. If the other 7/8 blocks have progressed as half as well it can only be good for the community and CE overall. The finances are much better because BBVA pay their community charges. More people should result in more opportunities and hopefully more services on CE and more business for the Golf Courses. My personal opinion is that things are looking more positive each time I go to CE. The rumours around the east course are many but I think it is a more hard headed aproach being taken by the new funders of Amyrich. I am sure they have not and will not close it but over their quiet period they are keeping maintenance to a minimum and allowing natural growth to fill in some of the bare patches on the fairways such as eight in front of us. They still water the greens and tees and cut both. |
Re: Costa Esuri Golf
Originally Posted by guesswork
(Post 8705234)
I have had an apartment on Las Encinas for over 2 and 1/2 years now. Initially it was very worrying because Fadesa had only sold approx 130 apartments out of 430. Fadesa were not paying any Community fees on their properties and money was very short for any maintenance.
Earlier this year BBVA have taken over all unsold apartments off Fadesa in the blocks facing the Golf Course. They are being sold by Anida their Estate Agency arm and are on their Website. Since Easter I have noticed that there have been a large influx of Spanish people some who live there and many who have bought as holiday homes. The side of block 14 which my apartment faces has approx 18 apartments. Before Easter at best 3 apartments were occupied, now about 12 have been occupied. If the other 7/8 blocks have progressed as half as well it can only be good for the community and CE overall. The finances are much better because BBVA pay their community charges. More people should result in more opportunities and hopefully more services on CE and more business for the Golf Courses. My personal opinion is that things are looking more positive each time I go to CE. All this is good news, and as I often say 'Its gettin' better all the time'. The banks have a brand-image to think of and should as a result pay their bills. This is great news for all the communities. Not wishing to be negative, but there is a slight risk that when the properties are sold that the new owners will not pay - or will pay late. WHereas the Banks will pay on time. So there may be a peak at the moment which reduces a bit. Of course communities need to enforce the bill payment and use the regs .... but I think we may see a slight decline over time. However this is a whole lot better than the previous situation where nothing was coming in..... so yes it is 'gettin' better all the time'.:) Regards Jon |
Re: Costa Esuri Golf
Originally Posted by guesswork
(Post 8705234)
I have had an apartment on Las Encinas for over 2 and 1/2 years now. Initially it was very worrying because Fadesa had only sold approx 130 apartments out of 430. Fadesa were not paying any Community fees on their properties and money was very short for any maintenance.
Earlier this year BBVA have taken over all unsold apartments off Fadesa in the blocks facing the Golf Course. They are being sold by Anida their Estate Agency arm and are on their Website. Since Easter I have noticed that there have been a large influx of Spanish people some who live there and many who have bought as holiday homes. The side of block 14 which my apartment faces has approx 18 apartments. Before Easter at best 3 apartments were occupied, now about 12 have been occupied. If the other 7/8 blocks have progressed as half as well it can only be good for the community and CE overall. The finances are much better because BBVA pay their community charges. More people should result in more opportunities and hopefully more services on CE and more business for the Golf Courses. My personal opinion is that things are looking more positive each time I go to CE. When out in June at least 6 new families moved into the bloque's near us (15) and in our two portals there are only 7 appts left for sale out of 22,when out at Easter there were 16 empty!!. Also Javier Perez from Anida is there most days showing people about,so very soon it won't be our little quiet place in the sun,we will have to share it all?, but thats progress. As stated by Jon the banks paying all the community fees as now created a nice surplus and the inter community is looking for ideas from the residents to spend these funds to benefit us all. Ken. |
Re: Costa Esuri Golf
Originally Posted by Teed Up
(Post 8703521)
We have a place in Las Encinas,overlooking the course and its far from unplayable,greens are cut every day and watered at least twice a day. but as stated the demand is very low,so they are keeping all the play on the old course.
I would imagine if buying through Cam you are getting it at a good discount?,and given the location,spain/Potugal/2 golf courses you need to be thinking long term. We visited Jags in the Easter,and am sure he will reopen as soon as allowed,having invested heavily into such a project i doubt he would walk away,and it will be a great asset to Esuri,but Esuri will survive no matter,we personally love the place and the people we meet. |
Re: Costa Esuri Golf
Originally Posted by adiemac
(Post 8705739)
Just had a text from my friend Brian who also owns in Las Encinas to say that he has received an e-mail from Jag to say that he has now reopened
It just goes to show that if you persevere and keep cool the Spanish paper chase can be tamed in the end. |
Re: Costa Esuri Golf
Originally Posted by John & Kath
(Post 8705761)
Congratulations to Jag and the team 2.00pm today was the re-opening time and I am sure there is a good crowd of wellwishers there for a celebratory drink already!
It just goes to show that if you persevere and keep cool the Spanish paper chase can be tamed in the end. Ken. |
Re: Costa Esuri Golf
Originally Posted by Teed Up
(Post 8703521)
We have a place in Las Encinas,overlooking the course and its far from unplayable,greens are cut every day and watered at least twice a day. but as stated the demand is very low,so they are keeping all the play on the old course.
I would imagine if buying through Cam you are getting it at a good discount?,and given the location,spain/Potugal/2 golf courses you need to be thinking long term. We visited Jags in the Easter,and am sure he will reopen as soon as allowed,having invested heavily into such a project i doubt he would walk away,and it will be a great asset to Esuri,but Esuri will survive no matter,we personally love the place and the people we meet. However in the middle of this huge recession, community money is coming in from the banks (no less) and places are selling - its a great sign. Also with the Spanish buying a lot now - we are going to have a good mix as well. Of course no one would buy a home just based on e.g Jags new place opening up - but its just another 'tick in the box' for CE! BTW Jag's is now fully licensed and OPEN! As of today - as we see above - congratulations !! So money is coming into the communities, places are selling and new businesses are opening up on CE..... Of course anything could happen, but these are all good 'indicators' from a 'financial viewpoint'. Add to that the 'fun viewpoint' of all that we can do across 2 countries on the doorstep, and all the good times we can have.... makes it all a compelling prospect. But as Ken says we need to think in the long term... and have a great laugh in the short term too - which we do! CE is such a blast for us. And was even 2 years ago when we had virtually nothing on site. 'Gettin' better all the time!' Jon |
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