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stevesainty Oct 20th 2019 2:03 pm

Re: Brexit deal agreed
 

Originally Posted by atlasthemonk (Post 12751376)
Assuming the Brexit deal goes through on 31st October......is that also the definative date for uk citizens falling into the schengen group ie very difficult for non golden visa uk citizens to purchase property and stay full time / over 6 months in the EU countries ?

If the deal goes through, then everything stays the same, IE status quo, until 31 December 2020, the transition period. By this time, fingers crossed, we will have negotiated a new relationship with EU.

Notdunroamin Oct 20th 2019 3:46 pm

Re: Brexit deal agreed
 

Originally Posted by Justaskin (Post 12751023)
I think it was a plan, hoping that brexit would force her to sell up and divide the money between them.

Seems to me that the mental acuity of the average Brexiteer would preclude the ability to conceive of such a scheme!

Justaskin Oct 20th 2019 6:37 pm

Re: Brexit deal agreed
 

Originally Posted by Notdunroamin (Post 12751431)
Seems to me that the mental acuity of the average Brexiteer would preclude the ability to conceive of such a scheme!

Ha, you have overlooked the fact that when there is money involved, especially free/inherited money, peoples mental capacity and strategic planning improve immensely.

Thairetired2016 Oct 25th 2019 5:39 pm

Re: Brexit deal agreed
 

Originally Posted by Fred James (Post 12749975)
I don't think that is solely a no deal issue. It will apply after a deal as it is part of the Schengen rules which obviously apply across the whole Schengen area. It has always been only 90 days in 180 for non EU citizens.

The UK Government has agreed with the EU that after Brexit UK citizens will not need a visa, but that is a Schengen visa which is only valid for 90 days. They will have to go through passport control on arrival and departure just as all "foreigners" have always done, and have their passports stamped.

This issue does not seem to have been addressed by the UK government in their Brexit advice as they have concentrated on two simple cases. They are the rules for visitors (holiday makers) and the rules for residents. The missing part is concerning the many people who have holiday homes in Spain and visit in the winter for far more than 90 days. They may well have to spend 90 days here in the winter (great) and 90 days in summer (not so good!) to stay within the Schengen rules.

I have attended a Brexit info event held by the British embassy and an official of the Austrian Min. of the Interior. The Austrian official pointed out that tourists can only stay for 90 days, holiday home or not. Many Brits have 2nd homes in Austria. If you are not a resident, you are a tourist. Same for all Schengen.
From what I read in your comment and comparing with info I was given, rules seem to be same within all Schengen area.
Another point which was made was to carry residence certificate on entry when coming from overseas as proof of residency. Otherwise you get a 90 day stamp. And we would not necessarily be allowed to enter via a neighboring country.
These rules would apply immediately (next day) in no deal event only.

chrisjolly Oct 26th 2019 12:25 pm

Re: Brexit deal agreed
 

Originally Posted by Notdunroamin (Post 12751431)
Seems to me that the mental acuity of the average Brexiteer would preclude the ability to conceive of such a scheme!

Are you seriously doubting the mental accuity of 17.4 million people..how incredibly clever of you!

amideislas Oct 27th 2019 8:58 pm

Re: Brexit deal agreed
 
No "Brexit deal" has been agreed. Despite media claims.

scot47 Oct 27th 2019 9:17 pm

Re: Brexit deal agreed
 
Chrisajolly should remember that 50 percent of the population is below average intelligence.

chrisjolly Oct 27th 2019 10:41 pm

Re: Brexit deal agreed
 

Originally Posted by scot47 (Post 12754871)
Chrisajolly should remember that 50 percent of the population is below average intelligence.

Considering the average intelligence on an IQ test is 100 then 85 to 115 - Two thirds of us have an IQ in this range:. Over 115 - Only a third of people have an IQ this high. Over 120 - Only 9% of people have an IQ this high. Over 125 which I am one would consider your reply rather inaccurate. But what has that got to do with Brexit deal agreed?

EU.flag Oct 28th 2019 1:03 pm

Re: Brexit deal agreed
 

Originally Posted by chrisjolly (Post 12754217)

Are you seriously doubting the mental accuity of 17.4 million people..how incredibly clever of you!

I take it you have never heard of mob mentality?

EU.flag Oct 28th 2019 1:04 pm

Re: Brexit deal agreed
 

Originally Posted by scot47 (Post 12754871)
Chrisajolly should remember that 50 percent of the population is below average intelligence.

I think you're being over generous here.
It's more like half of 50 percent of the population. :-)

chrisjolly Oct 28th 2019 1:58 pm

Re: Brexit deal agreed
 

Originally Posted by EU.flag (Post 12755199)
I take it you have never heard of mob mentality?

Another assumption? Strangely enough I have and as par for the course Remainers have to make derogatory statements about many millions of people, not many of whom they know. Could mob mentality also apply to those who voted to Remain...no! Of course not!

Rosemary Oct 28th 2019 2:56 pm

Re: Brexit deal agreed
 

Originally Posted by Rosemary (Post 12731017)
Due to the fact that I was forced to intervene in yet another Brexit style thread due to members intolerance of others opinions I feel duty bound to set boundaries before further threads appear. So I have decided that in order for an intelligent polite and worthwhile discussion to occur there is a need for rules to be set down.

1. There will be no derogatory comments on leavers and remainers. What is past is past and no amount of your bickering can change this.
2. Be factual, provide evidence when possible.
3. Be respectful, no name calling etc

Very simple basic rules which each and everyone of you are capable of keeping when in the right frame of mind, however, Brexit appears to bring out the inner petulant child which is no longer going to be tolerated.

Any posts that do not adhere to these rules will be deleted. Members who repeatedly cause difficulties will be removed from the forum.

Rosemary

A gentle reminder about taking part in Brexit discussions. Please do not go down the path that several of you are currently taking because I do not want to have to start deleting or denying people the right to an intelligent conversation but if forced to I will be stringent.

Rosemary

scot47 Oct 28th 2019 3:12 pm

Re: Brexit deal agreed
 
Chrisnjolly points out that 17 million voted tro leave

I pointed out that 50 percent of the populace are below average. Bell Curve ? Normal distribution ?

EU.flag Oct 28th 2019 3:29 pm

Re: Brexit deal agreed
 

Originally Posted by chrisjolly (Post 12755221)
Another assumption? Strangely enough I have and as par for the course Remainers have to make derogatory statements about many millions of people, not many of whom they know. Could mob mentality also apply to those who voted to Remain...no! Of course not!

Intersing points, if they were not so misguided. I dont need to know every person in mob to be able to recognise mob.
Extract from Oxford dictionary:
"A group of 3 or more persons, who act with a negative group conscience to show strength in numbers."
And this is as far as I am willing to go wasting my energy on this pointless subject.

Notdunroamin Oct 29th 2019 5:53 am

Re: Brexit deal agreed
 

Originally Posted by scot47 (Post 12755255)
Chrisnjolly points out that 17 million voted tro leave

​​​​​​And 29 million didn't so how is that the 'will of the people' ?


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