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breakfasttea Oct 17th 2019 4:15 pm

Brexit deal agreed
 
[img]blob:https://britishexpats.com/167e3c66-8328-4f11-bd52-7f6b6c1884e8[/img]Boris Johnson declares a Brexit agreement in place - 'We've got great new deal'
http://news.sky.com/story/boris-john...-deal-11837542


spouse of scouse Oct 17th 2019 4:16 pm

Re: Brexit deal agreed
 

Originally Posted by breakfasttea (Post 12749921)
[img]blob:https://britishexpats.com/167e3c66-8...b6c1884e8Boris Johnson declares a Brexit agreement in place - 'We've got great new deal'
http://news.sky.com/story/boris-john...-deal-11837542


Now to get it through Parliament ;)

breakfasttea Oct 17th 2019 4:37 pm

Re: Brexit deal agreed
 
I’ve read conflicting things that if you only have residencia, you can leave and return to Spain every 180 days?

bobd22 Oct 17th 2019 5:01 pm

Re: Brexit deal agreed
 

Originally Posted by breakfasttea (Post 12749930)
I’ve read conflicting things that if you only have residencia, you can leave and return to Spain every 180 days?

only have residencia? Versus what? If and I say if this deal goes through then those already resident will have their rights preserved (allegedly). Are you confusing things with the no deal scenario whereby if non resident you can spend 90 days in 180 within an EU country?

snikpoh Oct 17th 2019 5:03 pm

Re: Brexit deal agreed
 

Originally Posted by breakfasttea (Post 12749930)
I’ve read conflicting things that if you only have residencia, you can leave and return to Spain every 180 days?

If you are from the EU then you have registered as resident.
If you are not from the EU, then you have residencia and a TIE - which is what all UK citizens in Spain will require after Brexit.

What do you mean by ONLY have 'residencia'? As opposed to what else?

If you are registered as resident, then you can stay as long as you want. You loose that status if (within first five years) you leave for more than 6 months but you can leave for up to 2 years if you are a permanent resident.


Fred James Oct 17th 2019 5:40 pm

Re: Brexit deal agreed
 

Originally Posted by bobd22 (Post 12749954)
Are you confusing things with the no deal scenario whereby if non resident you can spend 90 days in 180 within an EU country?

I don't think that is solely a no deal issue. It will apply after a deal as it is part of the Schengen rules which obviously apply across the whole Schengen area. It has always been only 90 days in 180 for non EU citizens.

The UK Government has agreed with the EU that after Brexit UK citizens will not need a visa, but that is a Schengen visa which is only valid for 90 days. They will have to go through passport control on arrival and departure just as all "foreigners" have always done, and have their passports stamped.

This issue does not seem to have been addressed by the UK government in their Brexit advice as they have concentrated on two simple cases. They are the rules for visitors (holiday makers) and the rules for residents. The missing part is concerning the many people who have holiday homes in Spain and visit in the winter for far more than 90 days. They may well have to spend 90 days here in the winter (great) and 90 days in summer (not so good!) to stay within the Schengen rules.

Notdunroamin Oct 17th 2019 6:55 pm

Re: Brexit deal agreed
 
A deal in BoJo's twisted mind !

May be a Trojan Horse, I put NOTHING past BoJo and his cronies and it seems I'm not alone.

I question the EU's motives too, Barnier said yet again that citizens rights were a top priority but if he really meant that then the agreement which was the first to be signed off after the referendum could have (and still could be) enacated and ring fenced in a heartbeat.

https://truepublica.org.uk/united-ki...s-brexit-deal/

olivefarmer Oct 17th 2019 7:48 pm

Re: Brexit deal agreed
 
Could be all about multinationals making money.

people? 23% of Uk at or below poverty line , 27% in Spain. I would imagine the figures are higher in Eastern Europe. No we are a secondary consideration.

bobd22 Oct 17th 2019 7:56 pm

Re: Brexit deal agreed
 

Originally Posted by Fred James (Post 12749975)
I don't think that is solely a no deal issue. It will apply after a deal as it is part of the Schengen rules which obviously apply across the whole Schengen area. It has always been only 90 days in 180 for non EU citizens.

The UK Government has agreed with the EU that after Brexit UK citizens will not need a visa, but that is a Schengen visa which is only valid for 90 days. They will have to go through passport control on arrival and departure just as all "foreigners" have always done, and have their passports stamped.
.

Yes you are of course correct Fred. I was more confused at to if it was with reference to this that the OP referred.

Justaskin Oct 18th 2019 10:38 pm

Re: Brexit deal agreed
 
If the 90 day rule applies, that means a friend of mine cannot spend 2nd half of October until beginning of February in her Tenerife apartment.

bobd22 Oct 18th 2019 10:54 pm

Re: Brexit deal agreed
 

Originally Posted by Justaskin (Post 12750724)
If the 90 day rule applies, that means a friend of mine cannot spend 2nd half of October until beginning of February in her Tenerife apartment.

The perks of Brexit

Notdunroamin Oct 19th 2019 3:52 am

Re: Brexit deal agreed
 
Hope she didn't vote for it, an astonishing number of folk standing to be directly affected by it did.

We probably all know at least one. Personally, and without thinking very hard, I know about half a dozen.

Justaskin Oct 19th 2019 5:24 pm

Re: Brexit deal agreed
 

Originally Posted by Notdunroamin (Post 12750809)
Hope she didn't vote for it, an astonishing number of folk standing to be directly affected by it did.

We probably all know at least one. Personally, and without thinking very hard, I know about half a dozen.

No she didn't vote for it, but her children voted brexit, 2out of 3.
I think it was a plan, hoping that brexit would force her to sell up and divide the money between them.

It hasn't worked so far.

stevesainty Oct 20th 2019 8:51 am

Re: Brexit deal agreed
 

Originally Posted by Justaskin (Post 12750724)
If the 90 day rule applies, that means a friend of mine cannot spend 2nd half of October until beginning of February in her Tenerife apartment.

Spain has been talking about this problem and were hoping to introduce a fairly easy and cheap extension to the Schengen visa for those swallows who wish to over winter in Spain.

atlasthemonk Oct 20th 2019 1:07 pm

Re: Brexit deal agreed
 
Assuming the Brexit deal goes through on 31st October......is that also the definative date for uk citizens falling into the schengen group ie very difficult for non golden visa uk citizens to purchase property and stay full time / over 6 months in the EU countries ?


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