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Dick Dasterdly May 1st 2011 7:13 pm

Bin Laden
 
So they've finally nailed him, or so it seems, living in luxury unlike Sadam.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...aden-dead.html

Been living in Pakistan apparently.
Latest reports suggest he's already been burried,...at sea.
Lets hope they've got the right man with sufficient evidence to back it up.

Mitzyboy May 1st 2011 7:54 pm

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Although great news (I'm a little surprised they got rid of the body so quickly, when they must have known the doubt that would be generated by it), it's slightly worrying of course of what might be to come now .... I just hope the organisation is as badly organised now as they are saying it is

mikelincs May 1st 2011 8:14 pm

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Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 9337509)
So they've finally nailed him, or so it seems, living in luxury unlike Sadam.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...aden-dead.html

Been living in Pakistan apparently.
Latest reports suggest he's already been burried,...at sea.
Lets hope they've got the right man with sufficient evidence to back it up.

Apparently they have a DNA match to prove it is him, now for the repercussions...

Dick Dasterdly May 1st 2011 8:16 pm

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Originally Posted by Mitzyboy (Post 9337568)
Although great news (I'm a little surprised they got rid of the body so quickly, when they must have known the doubt that would be generated by it), it's slightly worrying of course of what might be to come now .... I just hope the organisation is as badly organised now as they are saying it is

Well apparently they have photos and DNA proof.
The reason for the swift burial is said to be to avoid offending other ppl. of his religion whose normal practice is quck burials.

Mitzyboy May 1st 2011 8:18 pm

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Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 9337600)
Well apparently they have photos and DNA proof.
The reason for the swift burial is said to be to avoid offending other ppl. of his religion whose normal practice is quck burials.

Yes, we wouldnt want to offend the family of someone who is responsible for so many deaths. I think also it seems they chose the Sea burial to avoid a shrine being created

JLFS May 1st 2011 8:22 pm

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Originally Posted by Mitzyboy (Post 9337568)
Although great news (I'm a little surprised they got rid of the body so quickly, when they must have known the doubt that would be generated by it), it's slightly worrying of course of what might be to come now .... I just hope the organisation is as badly organised now as they are saying it is

That is what the security and terrorism "experts" are saying, time will tell.

Mitzyboy May 1st 2011 8:33 pm

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Originally Posted by JLFS (Post 9337614)
That is what the security and terrorism "experts" are saying, time will tell.

Yes for sure, just unfortunate I am about to take a flight :blink:

steviedeluxe May 1st 2011 8:39 pm

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Originally Posted by JLFS (Post 9337614)
That is what the security and terrorism "experts" are saying, time will tell.

I fear we may see an outbreak of random suicide attacks carried out by sympathisers over the next few days/weeks. It's really not one organisation but a whole set of similarly minded groups in different countries who operate autonomously. I just hope the security forces in London (and other big cities) are alert as to what may happen now.

Mitzyboy May 1st 2011 8:42 pm

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Originally Posted by steviedeluxe (Post 9337653)
I fear we may see an outbreak of random suicide attacks carried out by sympathisers over the next few days/weeks. It's really not one organisation but a whole set of similarly minded groups in different countries who operate autonomously. I just hope the security forces in London (and other big cities) are alert as to what may happen now.

Thanks, that doesnt make me feel any less worried :(

bil May 1st 2011 8:42 pm

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Apparantly Obama had him buried at sea because so many Republicans had sworn to dance on his grave.

JLFS May 1st 2011 8:44 pm

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Originally Posted by steviedeluxe (Post 9337653)
I fear we may see an outbreak of random suicide attacks carried out by sympathisers over the next few days/weeks. It's really not one organisation but a whole set of similarly minded groups in different countries who operate autonomously. I just hope the security forces in London (and other big cities) are alert as to what may happen now.

But as it has been said before, BLs supporters only have to get lucky once, :frown:the anti terrorism guys have to get lucky every time....

steviedeluxe May 1st 2011 8:47 pm

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Originally Posted by Mitzyboy (Post 9337657)
Thanks, that doesnt make me feel any less worried :(

Hague's already announced increased security measures, so you should find that flying is probably the safest way of travelling (although you'll have extra delays at the airport no doubt). It's public transport in the big cities that are most at risk :thumbdown: Realistically there is no way you can check every passenger for guns or explosives

JLFS May 1st 2011 8:47 pm

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Originally Posted by Mitzyboy (Post 9337657)
Thanks, that doesnt make me feel any less worried :(

The near future is probably the safest time to fly, as everone will be extra vigilant, and these thinkgs need to be planned.

Things will be tight as tight can be. Dont worry-

steviedeluxe May 1st 2011 8:47 pm

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Originally Posted by bil (Post 9337660)
Apparantly Obama had him buried at sea because so many Republicans had sworn to dance on his grave.

Even now Republicans are demanding to see the death certificate....

JLFS May 1st 2011 8:51 pm

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Originally Posted by steviedeluxe (Post 9337669)
Hague's already announced increased security measures, so you should find that flying is probably the safest way of travelling (although you'll have extra delays at the airport no doubt). It's public transport in the big cities that are most at risk :thumbdown: Realistically there is no way you can check every passenger for guns or explosives

That is much harder if not impossible to monitor as you say, IMO planes will not be the target, public events and transport are much easier and as you say that is how they will most probably go about it.:thumbdown::thumbdown:

bil May 1st 2011 8:53 pm

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Originally Posted by Mitzyboy (Post 9337657)
Thanks, that doesnt make me feel any less worried :(

Geeze mate, look at it realistically. The odds of being involved in such an attack are beyond remote, and with luck if they try anything there will be a passing Glaswegian to give them a good kicking.

steviedeluxe May 1st 2011 8:58 pm

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Interesting time to take him out (I'm assuming the Yanks have known for some time where he was based). Could be a massive hint to Gadaffi that if he doesn't vacate his role then he'll be taken out too?

Dick Dasterdly May 1st 2011 9:00 pm

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Originally Posted by bil (Post 9337684)
Geeze mate, look at it realistically. The odds of being involved in such an attack are beyond remote, and with luck if they try anything there will be a passing Glaswegian to give them a good kicking.

Yes, but maybe they've changed their tactics and have some of old Bin's mates working as ground mechanics on Mitzys aircraft. :eek:

steviedeluxe May 1st 2011 9:02 pm

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A lot of rumours flying about that the Royal honeymoon has been cancelled due to security concerns...

Mitzyboy May 1st 2011 9:02 pm

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Originally Posted by bil (Post 9337684)
Geeze mate, look at it realistically. The odds of being involved in such an attack are beyond remote, and with luck if they try anything there will be a passing Glaswegian to give them a good kicking.

Oh of course .... unfortunately it plays on your mind. When 9/11 happened I was in Greece, with a flight two days later. You wouldn't believe how jumpy all the passengers were on that flight

bil May 1st 2011 9:17 pm

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Originally Posted by steviedeluxe (Post 9337702)
A lot of rumours flying about that the Royal honeymoon has been cancelled due to security concerns...

Really? I'm sure that we could muster a team who would be willing to take on the arduous and risky honemoon duties for him, eh?

bil May 1st 2011 9:19 pm

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Originally Posted by Mitzyboy (Post 9337703)
Oh of course .... unfortunately it plays on your mind. When 9/11 happened I was in Greece, with a flight two days later. You wouldn't believe how jumpy all the passengers were on that flight

People don't understand risk. They believe they will win the lottery, that they won't get run over, but with god only knows how many planes in the air in a month where there is an attack, that it will be their plane that gets hit.

Mitzyboy May 1st 2011 9:21 pm

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Originally Posted by steviedeluxe (Post 9337702)
A lot of rumours flying about that the Royal honeymoon has been cancelled due to security concerns...

I must admit, I did think it was strange that everything had been so well planned for the wedding, then they hid the honeymoon destination carefully, then suddenly they announced they werent going anywhere for the moment

Dick Dasterdly May 1st 2011 9:31 pm

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Originally Posted by Mitzyboy (Post 9337703)
Oh of course .... unfortunately it plays on your mind. When 9/11 happened I was in Greece, with a flight two days later. You wouldn't believe how jumpy all the passengers were on that flight

I flew Pan Am to the States immedately after the Lockerby disaster, but tried to console myself that lightning doesnt strike twice, which is a load of cobblers really cos I've just been reading about a guy who was amazingly struck eight times.

Interesting that they found Bin Laden virtually on the doorstep of the Pakistan military academy, took care to avoid communication with the Pakistani authorities and went in without permission, so maybe there's a bit more to it than meets the eye.

Dick Dasterdly May 1st 2011 9:39 pm

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Originally Posted by Mitzyboy (Post 9337753)
I must admit, I did think it was strange that everything had been so well planned for the wedding, then they hid the honeymoon destination carefully, then suddenly they announced they werent going anywhere for the moment

Who knows,"the moment" could just be a couple of days and they could be well away by now, but can't blame them for trying to throw the world media off the scent,especially after the hassle Di endured before it came to such a sad end, though it has to be said they did act a bit stupidly.

Rosemary May 1st 2011 10:13 pm

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I would just like to say
bin laden RIP.:thumbsup:

That is Rot In Purgatory.

Graham

mikelincs May 1st 2011 10:34 pm

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Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 9337600)
Well apparently they have photos and DNA proof.
The reason for the swift burial is said to be to avoid offending other ppl. of his religion whose normal practice is quck burials.

Photos have been published in Pakistan, AND, I know you don't like the rag, but there was one on the Daily Mail online front page earlier, gone now though. He had a nice neat hole in the middle of his forehead, plus a lot of bruising.

Dick Dasterdly May 1st 2011 10:54 pm

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Originally Posted by mikelincs (Post 9337898)
Photos have been published in Pakistan, AND, I know you don't like the rag, but there was one on the Daily Mail online front page earlier, gone now though. He had a nice neat hole in the middle of his forehead, plus a lot of bruising.

So more of a torture and execution then,..it figures.

Dick Dasterdly May 1st 2011 11:16 pm

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Tumultuous celebrations in the States.
Quiet satisfaction in the rest of the Western world.
Every picture tells a story.

bil May 1st 2011 11:27 pm

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Originally Posted by The Oddities (Post 9337862)
I would just like to say
bin laden RIP.:thumbsup:

That is Rot In Purgatory.

Graham

Purgatory is just the waiting room.

HBG May 1st 2011 11:30 pm

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It appears that he was living in a house eight times larger than others around him, in a modern city near to the capital, and had lived there at least since last August. It also appears that the Americans didn't trust the Pakistanis to do the job of bringing him to justice.

The quick burial at sea was an act of genius, the Indian Ocean is too big to be a shrine for his followers.

Consequences? Highly likely, and anywhere in the world.

bil May 1st 2011 11:36 pm

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Originally Posted by HBG (Post 9338024)
It appears that he was living in a house eight times larger than others around him, in a modern city near to the capital, and had lived there at least since last August. It also appears that the Americans didn't trust the Pakistanis to do the job of bringing him to justice.

The quick burial at sea was an act of genius, the Indian Ocean is too big to be a shrine for his followers.

Consequences? Highly likely, and anywhere in the world.

Yeah, burial at sea was pretty cute.....

Consequences, possible, but not certain. I'm certainly not going to worry about it.

Dick Dasterdly May 1st 2011 11:43 pm

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Well his face is not a pretty picture.
Looks like they gave him a good seeing to before putting him out of his misery.

steviedeluxe May 1st 2011 11:48 pm

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Originally Posted by HBG (Post 9338024)
It appears that he was living in a house eight times larger than others around him, in a modern city near to the capital, and had lived there at least since last August.

Not really the smartest of moves to have stayed in Pakistan. He should have relocated to Spain under the guise of an estate agent - noone would have bothered him there.

mikelincs May 1st 2011 11:53 pm

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Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 9338047)
Well his face is not a pretty picture.
Looks like they gave him a good seeing to before putting him out of his misery.

They wanted to take him alive, but he wouldn't have it. so he died..

Dick Dasterdly May 2nd 2011 3:12 am

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Originally Posted by mikelincs (Post 9338065)
They wanted to take him alive, but he wouldn't have it. so he died..

No, at least they were honest enough to admit their orders were to kill him, rather than capture him alive, though as I said it seems they gave him a real good kicking before finishing the job off.

Strange how the huge house where they found him had been purpose built just five years ago, right on the doorstep of the main Pakistani military academy.
Makes you think that the Pakistanis must have at least been aware of his presence if not allowing him protection.
The fact that a new luxury house had no telephone or internet connection,only couriers going in and out, seems to have been a big clue.

Rotor May 2nd 2011 5:56 am

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Should have buried him in a pig skin ,or maybe they did:rofl:

I would like to see how the predominantley muslim areas of the UK have recieved the great news?

The Guy May 2nd 2011 6:05 am

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I wonder what the repurcussions / ramifications will be for the US storming into another country, supposably without any notification, and conducting a military operation?

Isnt that how the Gulf War started....?

Strange how things go around in circles.

Or was this part of the UN mandate that OKs this...?

Maurice May 2nd 2011 6:11 am

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Got to hand it to the Yanks, they take Bins out on a public Holiday!!!!!!!;)

jdr May 2nd 2011 6:24 am

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Originally Posted by Maurice (Post 9338832)
Got to hand it to the Yanks, they take Bins out on a public Holiday!!!!!!!;)

They take bins out every day in Spain. ;);)


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