Backpaying SS to get cover
Mar 13th 2011, 5:14 pm
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Backpaying SS to get cover
Can anyone advise me if the following little scenario rings true or not:
British long-term expat living on Costa del Sol. Under 65 years old, has no private medical insurance and hasn't paid social security in ages.
He was recently taken into hospital for emergency treatment (heart attack). The hospital did whatever it is that they do as an emergency measure, but initially refused to operate and put in the stents(?) as he has no SS, but were somehow persuaded and he now has a bill for circa 2000 euros.
He will now need medication for life which will cost a small fortune, but obviously can't get it on the SS as he ain't got none.
Here's the bit I want confirming:
I'm being told that if he backpays 25 months of SS (circa €6000) and starts paying the monthly cuota he will be covered by the SS again for his future heart attack medication.
I suspect I might have to go to the Seg Social and ask, but has anyone heard about this backpaying option and know anything about it?
British long-term expat living on Costa del Sol. Under 65 years old, has no private medical insurance and hasn't paid social security in ages.
He was recently taken into hospital for emergency treatment (heart attack). The hospital did whatever it is that they do as an emergency measure, but initially refused to operate and put in the stents(?) as he has no SS, but were somehow persuaded and he now has a bill for circa 2000 euros.
He will now need medication for life which will cost a small fortune, but obviously can't get it on the SS as he ain't got none.
Here's the bit I want confirming:
I'm being told that if he backpays 25 months of SS (circa €6000) and starts paying the monthly cuota he will be covered by the SS again for his future heart attack medication.
I suspect I might have to go to the Seg Social and ask, but has anyone heard about this backpaying option and know anything about it?
Mar 13th 2011, 5:20 pm
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Re: Backpaying SS to get cover
Can anyone advise me if the following little scenario rings true or not:
British long-term expat living on Costa del Sol. Under 65 years old, has no private medical insurance and hasn't paid social security in ages.
He was recently taken into hospital for emergency treatment (heart attack). The hospital did whatever it is that they do as an emergency measure, but initially refused to operate and put in the stents(?) as he has no SS, but were somehow persuaded and he now has a bill for circa 2000 euros.
He will now need medication for life which will cost a small fortune, but obviously can't get it on the SS as he ain't got none.
Here's the bit I want confirming:
I'm being told that if he backpays 25 months of SS (circa €6000) and starts paying the monthly cuota he will be covered by the SS again for his future heart attack medication.
I suspect I might have to go to the Seg Social and ask, but has anyone heard about this backpaying option and know anything about it?
British long-term expat living on Costa del Sol. Under 65 years old, has no private medical insurance and hasn't paid social security in ages.
He was recently taken into hospital for emergency treatment (heart attack). The hospital did whatever it is that they do as an emergency measure, but initially refused to operate and put in the stents(?) as he has no SS, but were somehow persuaded and he now has a bill for circa 2000 euros.
He will now need medication for life which will cost a small fortune, but obviously can't get it on the SS as he ain't got none.
Here's the bit I want confirming:
I'm being told that if he backpays 25 months of SS (circa €6000) and starts paying the monthly cuota he will be covered by the SS again for his future heart attack medication.
I suspect I might have to go to the Seg Social and ask, but has anyone heard about this backpaying option and know anything about it?
I've never heard of this 'back-payment' thing, though I'm sure many would be interested in it
also, I thought that, except in the Valencia region, you couldn't just pay a cuota -you actually had to be properly autonomo or on a contract
Mar 13th 2011, 5:23 pm
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Re: Backpaying SS to get cover
Can anyone advise me if the following little scenario rings true or not:
British long-term expat living on Costa del Sol. Under 65 years old, has no private medical insurance and hasn't paid social security in ages.
He was recently taken into hospital for emergency treatment (heart attack). The hospital did whatever it is that they do as an emergency measure, but initially refused to operate and put in the stents(?) as he has no SS, but were somehow persuaded and he now has a bill for circa 2000 euros.
He will now need medication for life which will cost a small fortune, but obviously can't get it on the SS as he ain't got none.
Here's the bit I want confirming:
I'm being told that if he backpays 25 months of SS (circa €6000) and starts paying the monthly cuota he will be covered by the SS again for his future heart attack medication.
I suspect I might have to go to the Seg Social and ask, but has anyone heard about this backpaying option and know anything about it?
British long-term expat living on Costa del Sol. Under 65 years old, has no private medical insurance and hasn't paid social security in ages.
He was recently taken into hospital for emergency treatment (heart attack). The hospital did whatever it is that they do as an emergency measure, but initially refused to operate and put in the stents(?) as he has no SS, but were somehow persuaded and he now has a bill for circa 2000 euros.
He will now need medication for life which will cost a small fortune, but obviously can't get it on the SS as he ain't got none.
Here's the bit I want confirming:
I'm being told that if he backpays 25 months of SS (circa €6000) and starts paying the monthly cuota he will be covered by the SS again for his future heart attack medication.
I suspect I might have to go to the Seg Social and ask, but has anyone heard about this backpaying option and know anything about it?
Mar 13th 2011, 5:51 pm
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Re: Backpaying SS to get cover
Can anyone advise me if the following little scenario rings true or not:
I'm being told that if he backpays 25 months of SS (circa €6000) and starts paying the monthly cuota he will be covered by the SS again for his future heart attack medication.
I suspect I might have to go to the Seg Social and ask, but has anyone heard about this backpaying option and know anything about it?
I'm being told that if he backpays 25 months of SS (circa €6000) and starts paying the monthly cuota he will be covered by the SS again for his future heart attack medication.
I suspect I might have to go to the Seg Social and ask, but has anyone heard about this backpaying option and know anything about it?
No doesnt make sense to me so find out if he owes anything. Also if is so ill cant work, he wouldnt have to pay monthly cuota because would get signed off sick. Thats apart from SS & Hacienda being unwilling to let people pay cuotas without an activity.
Otherwise just enroll him in the Valencia scheme (assuming thats where he is).
Mar 13th 2011, 5:53 pm
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Did this person ever do a baja from autonomo or just stop paying?
No doesnt make sense to me so find out if he owes anything. Also if is so ill cant work, he wouldnt have to pay monthly cuota because would get signed off sick. Thats apart from SS & Hacienda being unwilling to let people pay cuotas without an activity.
Otherwise just enroll him in the Valencia scheme (assuming thats where he is).
No doesnt make sense to me so find out if he owes anything. Also if is so ill cant work, he wouldnt have to pay monthly cuota because would get signed off sick. Thats apart from SS & Hacienda being unwilling to let people pay cuotas without an activity.
Otherwise just enroll him in the Valencia scheme (assuming thats where he is).
He should be paying the monthly quota as he has been self-employed for the last couple of years or so.....just not paying the SS
Mar 13th 2011, 5:58 pm
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Re: Backpaying SS to get cover
Do you mean he was never registered as self employed? Because if he was and stopped paying without completing the formalities they will not let him off.
Mar 13th 2011, 6:04 pm
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But yes, it could be that this "backpaying" isn't something that is open to everyone wishing to get cover, but rather just paying what he owes!!
Mar 13th 2011, 6:13 pm
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Oh Dear looks like it. Someone needs to find out which drawer he keeps all his unopened post in and deal with it before he gets a nasty surprise.
Mar 13th 2011, 6:38 pm
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Re: Backpaying SS to get cover
hi, I spoke with my accountant about a similar situation a while ago.
If it were me I would settle up the 2ke owed for treatment & immediately enrol on the ss to get full future cover.
I am not an acct btw, just a similat situ cropped up a while ago.
If it were me I would settle up the 2ke owed for treatment & immediately enrol on the ss to get full future cover.
I am not an acct btw, just a similat situ cropped up a while ago.
Mar 13th 2011, 6:53 pm
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Re: Backpaying SS to get cover
He is fortunate to have a bill for only 2000!
Mar 13th 2011, 8:49 pm
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Re: Backpaying SS to get cover
I have never heard of this payback scheme.
If he was up to date with his contributions, he would have been able to get sick pay, for tempary illness, the SS still has to be paid while receiving this payment though, and prescriptions too.
It is only after he has been throght the process of claiming and being given the permanent baja that the SS contributions change, I think, that you have to still pay half, and the government pay half untill reaching retirement age. And of course he would get sick pay.
I dont think you will get much info from the SS, but you could try going to the "mutua" just for general information.
Of course they will not "take him on their books" but they may give some good advice.
A lot of poeple pay thier quota to the likes of Mapfre and Fremap, they still have the same rights.
Hope it gets sorted.
If he was up to date with his contributions, he would have been able to get sick pay, for tempary illness, the SS still has to be paid while receiving this payment though, and prescriptions too.
It is only after he has been throght the process of claiming and being given the permanent baja that the SS contributions change, I think, that you have to still pay half, and the government pay half untill reaching retirement age. And of course he would get sick pay.
I dont think you will get much info from the SS, but you could try going to the "mutua" just for general information.
Of course they will not "take him on their books" but they may give some good advice.
A lot of poeple pay thier quota to the likes of Mapfre and Fremap, they still have the same rights.
Hope it gets sorted.
Mar 13th 2011, 10:34 pm
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Re: Backpaying SS to get cover
If someone didnt have cover in the US that would have cost 100k plus.
I feel sorry for him for the situation he is in, it is a good reminder to people to make sure they have health cover in Spain, either state or private
Mar 13th 2011, 10:54 pm
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It would be quite unfair for those who have paid into the system to now have to pick up the tab for his recklessness, health care provision should be at the top of every citizens list of priorities, not an afterthought!
Mar 14th 2011, 6:45 am
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Re: Backpaying SS to get cover
I have read that once you join the system it will cover all pre existing conditions (will it not ?)