Re: Auto movers europe
 

I used his services and the delivery was severely late, plus he was not responding to phone calls constantly. then eventually car ended up in a police compound (how is this even possible???!!!!) instead of being delivered to me. i paid the police fine, plus the car got damaged. peter wont return calls. on top of that, i got overcharged by several hundred euros on top of the agreed amount!!

does anyone know the best way to sue him? where is his company registered?

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Well, as a professional company they have a free gmail email address, Spanish telephone numbers and no postal address on their web site. The web site isnt finished, as it has latin wording in its portfolio and blog sections. You'd ghave to check with companies house to see if they are registered ... or maybe make contact with Anchor Euro Transport in Suffolk, who used to have contact with him (and are not associated with him at all now.

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he has cleaned up website since my last comments (see#5 on first page)
and it is now working properly.

a ping to his website terminates in Greensburg USA after only 7 hops which as that is a "cloud" co-location server indicates he is using a vpn to mask his final destination.
and the entry in Whosis has been deleted.

however, a trawl has given me information from
http://fraud.forumandco.com/t1416-automoverseuropecom
with a posting by a "Jason" on 29th July

Automovers.com has IP 208.65.202.20 and is hosted by Elite Internet Communications, located in the usa http://www.eicomm.net/contact
gives you some fone and email information
there would appear to be a Jason located there at [email protected] responsible for technical information

The americans have very strict laws about internet fraud and things. I'm not up on that sort of thing - had to get involved in their Sarbanes-Oxley thing once and vowed never again. But I would imagine that if it could be proven a website hosted in the us for fraud would be pulled.

can I ask if he has just billed you for the extra costs or have you paid them ?
were you asked for uk vat or sp iva ?
billing means nothing because the consensus on this site is that he is not registered as a uk ltd (a companies house check shows that at this stage)
I would presume any documentation only shows business name and telephone numbers. VAT\IVA registration No's must be shown on all invoices

not a happy situation, many more are going to get caught out.
by the way telephone no being 951 indicates Malaga so perhaps the local papers may be interested in a news story ??

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No, theres still loads of latin filler in areas as I described, not that it's very important

What I feel is (having spent most of my life in the freight industry) that it's a bit like shooting yourself in the foot if you start a(nother) business, have extremely unhappy customers with very serious issues like the last one, and then don't have a finished web site when you go live with it.

In the shipping industry your reputation is very important, and if you are not worried about your reputation and you dont project the right image then there's something quite wrong

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fully agree, it matters not which area of commerce you are in, from making cakes for the WI to pumping oil at BP, (total) image is what matters along with customer satisfaction.
from time to time people will excuse the little mistake here and there, a mis-spelling or small word missing but it is your shop window.
that you come up with a list countries from the Ryanair countries list drop down (or similar) and inserted in your website means nothing when there are complaints such as this which give lie to your capabilities of even getting out of bed in the morning.

in this instance he takes credit card payments, if that is the method of payment will the card provider be able to assist ?

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I have placed an order with Automovers Europe this afternoon to collect my classic VW transporter and deliver it back to the UK.

I am absolutely horrified at some of the reviews on here, can anybody do anything to reassure me??

Somebody has to have had some good service by this company??

Pleeeaaaaseee???

Dave

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Only people who know him it seems

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Please dont tell me that as I feel sick!!

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thought about cancelling it "following legal advice" ?

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If they take my call??? If not they may just tell me where to go!

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well you could always be "out" when (if) he calls
have you seen his insurance policy ?
bet you have already paid on credit card ! :eek:

I notice his mobile number also crops up on another website which appears to be for a legit co in West Midlands and a boat moving\delivery company in Malaga
busy guy

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Yep! paid on debit card today £700. text him, emailed him and called him, left messages earlier but nothing back.

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probably busy on the road moving stuff, cant use mobile whilst driving

debit card is a problem, credit card you could probably get transaction cancelled

sri can't help, this is why I am so super independent, don't like being taken for a ride by anyone

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Here we go again with the usual suspects with the same old grudges, iffy looking fraud reporting sites and newbie posters crying scam and never posting again on the forum. I wonder just how many of these so called "customers" complaining of being scammed are real....or perhaps it is the same person. I do not have access to ip and email addresses like some others around here to answer that...

I know a thing or two about the original "victim" reported here some years back which from memory involved a lady with a Toyota Rav4 (who I believe is among us). When Peter started out in 2000 he began by using Anchor logistics for the approx 40 cars a month he was sending. As I understand the story he found out Anchor were being a little less than straight with him and nicking some of his customers and decided to stop using them. The problem was that they were involved with this RAV4 which was being sent back to the UK to be MOT'ed and returned to Spain For reasons known to them, they delayed the car and manipulated the situation to make Peter look like the bad guy. You can safely assume Anchor or anyone connected to anchor will give Peter a less than glowing reference

You are all correct in observing that he changed the name of the company a couple of years ago. Nothing sordid or suspicious here, he sold carstospain as someone mentioned earlier to another company (johnalber, the one hit wonder from the end of June). He then started up another company in the same business some time later, Auto movers Europe.

As I said earlier in this thread if Peter is a scammer how come he is still in business for 10 years, the people here make him sound like some sort of fugitive constantly on the run. The guy is just a 66 year old man making a living, agreed he is not so high profile on the social scene any more but I would not go as far to say he is in hiding, just not the spring chicken he used to be :).

DUMBODOGGY do not worry, I am certain you are not being scammed with your VW transporter shipment even though there seem to be some very upset people out there for one reason or another. There is quite an important condition in his terms which states that once an 8 car transporter is about to set out on it's way to pick your car up there can be no refund if it is too late to book a replacement. It is uneconomical to send the trailer back. The only solutions would be to 1 delay the truck (how would you feel if you were one of the other 7 customers) 2. The shipper takes the hit 3. No refund. If you were in the business how would you deal with this ? If given enough notice refunds are not a problem for Peter's company assuming they are able to fill the space which has been booked for the car

Domino, there is no mystery the 95 prefix is indeed Malaga, his 951 number is in Marbella. The web site appears to be hosted with cloud web who appear themselves to host from these Elite people. It appears from their website that hosting starts at $4.33, as a reseller of web hosting I too am upset by this, what's the point of trying to compete at those prices!This proves one thing...he doesn't use my hosting services because he is too damn cheap! Cheapness however is not a crime or evidence of a scammer...but thanks, your post was informative and made me think and remember that he owes me lunch. I doubt the two Jasons are connected, one works for a company far removed from Peter's dealings (far removed even from his web designer) and the other one seems to like posting fraud warnings which contain nothing more than copy and pasted info from the sites in question and no further information on why they are being posted there

To cut a long story short Peter has many satisfied customers and can provide any potential clients with references from one of the 6700 cars he has successfully shipped. I am quite certain there must have been one or two problems in this time, what business does not, but I still maintain your accusations of him being a con artist are totally unfounded. The main victim that has been conclusively proven here is Peter, victim of a web designer who forgot to erase a link from the template he was using.

I have an offer to anyone who has been GENUINELY been scammed to tell me here on this thread and I will get an answer from Peter so we can all see the other side of the story. In case anyone is wondering I have absolutely nothing to gain from his car shipping business. I met Peter in 2003 when the check in girl at Gib airport checked me in as him and have been a friend of his ever since

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Tell you what. theres a number of people, including the latest, who say they have paid money and not heard. If you know the guy so well, ring him up and ask why he hasnt replied to the latest person, bearing in mind he has his money.

You seem to just keep denying it even though people are out of pocket or have had problems on the intimation that they are making it up!