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Old Jan 13th 2013 | 8:06 pm
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Originally Posted by Domino
sounds like Spain - without the funny language
I accept that....except Spain isn´t thousands of miles from anywhere and I never heard anyone describe Spain as boring. The Spanish don´t tell you all day that Spain is the greatest country on earth and that by simply letting you exist there they are doing you the greatest favour one can do to a living being.
I already sense problems with beauracracy......the alternative is Poland, something I seriously don´t want to do and can´t get my eastern euro wife to agree to.....although Poland is a beautiful country and a great place to visit. The UK (for instance) is no real option, as its new migration laws almost make Australian laws seem soft!!!!!
 
Old Jan 13th 2013 | 8:08 pm
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Originally Posted by Fred James
If you spend more than half the year in Spain you will become tax resident and will have to pay Spanish income tax on your income, wherever it comes from.

Also, if the value of your investments exceeds a certain sum you will also have to pay wealth tax.

Under recently a introduced law you will also have to declare exactly what your assets are and where they are situated.

this is a crock of $%&@ - im paying tax in australia so why should i have to pay it elsewhere. I spose i may be able to claim some back but come on why complicate things.

Is it because the ministers in Spain got gready in the boom time and now clutching at straws
 
Old Jan 13th 2013 | 8:09 pm
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Originally Posted by cricketman
Sounds like you want to move to Spain because you think it would be easier to do things illegally here

Strange motivation

And from what people say on this forum, Spain has some of the worst beaurocracy in the world, especially if you don't speak the language
No I actually just love the place....that was a bit cynical....after all, I guy willing to throw a fair amount of cash into a place is hardly the type of immigrant a country in an economic downturn should not want.....if you read my post all my plans for living there involve injecting money into the system, not taking any out!
 
Old Jan 13th 2013 | 8:12 pm
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Originally Posted by lynnxa
yes - the right to live here - but you do need to register

if you can't get the EU health card (S1) then you need to get private healthcare, as said

yes, you might get away with just 'chancing it' - but without those resident registration certs/cards you won't get very far - for one thing, the kids won't get into school & it's becoming more & more difficult on a daily basis - I'm hearing now that some landlords won't rent to anyone without a resident cert, you wouldn't be able to buy a car or property without a NIE at the very least

you can't get a residents bank account without a resident cert either

you say you have an income? is that from work? You'd need to register as self-employed & pay tax & NI - in fact then you'd get access to state healthcare

in any case, you have to do tax returns here if you live here, working or not
You can open a Bank account with your Passport..you can rent showing your passport..You can buy a car with your passport..why dont you come to the Canary Isles with all year sunshine
 
Old Jan 13th 2013 | 8:13 pm
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Originally Posted by Rosemary
As Concierge for the Spanish section of BE I would like to say hello and welcome.

BE is a very large expat website, so if you have problems finding your way around we have concierges who will try to direct you. The moderators for the Spanish forums are Mitzyboy and Fred James, moderators are there to ensure that the site runs smoothly within the rules of BE. Problems and complaints should always be addressed to a moderador who will look into the matter and deal with it efficiently and fairly. Our members who post in the Spain Forums are friendly and helpful with a wealth of knowledge of the issues of living in Spain. At the top of the page you will find a quirkily named thread called Free Beer which is full of important and useful information. Hope you enjoy your time participating in the forums.

Please let me know if you need any further help.

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Thanks so much for your welcome, obviously moving abroad is a big decision and forums like this help
 
Old Jan 13th 2013 | 8:39 pm
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Originally Posted by Tambo
this is a crock of $%&@ - im paying tax in australia so why should i have to pay it elsewhere. I spose i may be able to claim some back but come on why complicate things.

Is it because the ministers in Spain got gready in the boom time and now clutching at straws
It's a common rule in most countries that if you are tax resident there you pay tax there on your world wide income.

There is a tax treaty between Spain and Australia that lays down where the tax should be paid and in most cases it will be in Spain. As a result of the treaty it should be possible for most or even all of the tax due in Australia to be exempted under the agreement. Also, generally speaking there are rules to ensure that you don't pay tax twice on the same income by allowing you to deduct tax paid in Australia from any tax paid in Spain.

As I said, it isn't a question of Spain being greedy - it's a general rule of taxation in most countries.
 
Old Jan 13th 2013 | 9:08 pm
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Originally Posted by ozspain1
I am very much thinking along your lines: international school, private health, purchase a property and rely on my basic right to be there with my family if any one asks questions. It´s a very different situation to,say, Oz where no outsider has any kind of right to be there unless granted residency. In saying that would ideally like to do things by the book.

I'll say it again....you still have to register as resident & submit tax returns

I can't understand why you wouldn't
 
Old Jan 13th 2013 | 9:27 pm
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Originally Posted by lynnxa
I'll say it again....you still have to register as resident & submit tax returns

I can't understand why you wouldn't
I am going through the process now, I certainly do want to register....I am just thinking of plan b in the event that I hit roadblocks, though I see no reason that should happen. However my experience with beauracracy in general has led me to always expect the worst and be grateful if things go smoothly.
 
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I am going through the process now, I certainly do want to register....I am just thinking of plan b in the event that I hit roadblocks, though I see no reason that should happen. However my experience with beauracracy in general has led me to always expect the worst and be grateful if things go smoothly.
As long as you have the required income and healthcare then you will have no problems at all. If you have any worries about registering, just use a gestor, they will do it all, but of course they will charge you for the privelege.
 
Old Jan 13th 2013 | 9:36 pm
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I am going through the process now, I certainly do want to register....I am just thinking of plan b in the event that I hit roadblocks, though I see no reason that should happen. However my experience with beauracracy in general has led me to always expect the worst and be grateful if things go smoothly.
you won't hit any roadblocks as long as you can prove income & healthcare provision - your wife can register as resident exercising treaty rights as wife of an EU citizen & your children can get EU passports, so that's straightforward enough

if you can afford International school etc, then you should have no problems proving everything, should you?
 
Old Jan 13th 2013 | 11:22 pm
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Originally Posted by lynnxa
you won't hit any roadblocks as long as you can prove income & healthcare provision - your wife can register as resident exercising treaty rights as wife of an EU citizen & your children can get EU passports, so that's straightforward enough

if you can afford International school etc, then you should have no problems proving everything, should you?
BTW, the income provision is (as of yesterday, so very current)....show 5000 euros in any bank account worldwide.....not exactly a big requirement.
 
Old Jan 13th 2013 | 11:28 pm
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Originally Posted by ozspain1
BTW, the income provision is (as of yesterday, so very current)....show 5000 euros in any bank account worldwide.....not exactly a big requirement.
yes - that has been frequently reported by those recently registering

do you have this from a linkable official source, or is that just what they told you at the extranjería?
 
Old Jan 14th 2013 | 2:24 am
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Originally Posted by lynnxa
yes - that has been frequently reported by those recently registering

do you have this from a linkable official source, or is that just what they told you at the extranjería?
I have looked for a link but cannot find, that is what I was told and was written on my form by the police woman who I spoke to. That was in the Girona National Police Office and I have heard that the requirements differ in various regions.
 
Old Jan 14th 2013 | 2:29 am
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I have looked for a link but cannot find, that is what I was told and was written on my form by the police woman who I spoke to. That was in the Girona National Police Office and I have heard that the requirements differ in various regions.
yes - I've looked for a link many times over tha past few months too - & yes again - it probably will vary from region to region

in Granada it was reported as 5000€ for a single person & 8000€ for a couple

were you told 5000€ per person or for the entire family??

either way - it does seem rather low - it wouldn't go far at all, would it?
 
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Originally Posted by lynnxa
yes - I've looked for a link many times over tha past few months too - & yes again - it probably will vary from region to region

in Granada it was reported as 5000€ for a single person & 8000€ for a couple

were you told 5000€ per person or for the entire family??

either way - it does seem rather low - it wouldn't go far at all, would it?
I can only guess the idea is to filter out people who cannot even show that at the very least. Wouldnt go far no, but I must say I find prices in Spain reasonable to put it mildly compared to hideously, and in my view unjustifiably, expensive Sydney.

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