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YOU are the only one mentioning nationality, everyone else is discussing how sad it is that someone needed to die.

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What im saying is that the Spanish justice system is as good as the French system, I never said the Spanish were British Hating, But i did infer that the legal system would not swing in favor of the victim.

What on earth could I possibly know about this sort of crime? And the potential outcome.

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OK, so I have just had a look at a few sources and from what I can tell they were at it with a couple of Pro's, two Spaniards and a Bulgarian decided to try and wind them up by throwing stones and eggs (premeditated if you think about it) they fought back and in the fight one of them gets a stick around their head and dies.

So the whole thing was instigated by the three young lads, and they were quite obviously looking for a fight, simple.

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that was exactly my feeling about it - the truth is probably somewhere in the middle

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Seems to me that yet again, excessive alcohol consumption would appear to be at the root of the trouble. Like the huge majority of victims of violence that end up in the emergency departments of hospitals on Friday and Saturday nights. Very very sad. :(

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Thank goodness for a reasoned post.


Sign off if you choose, we all luckily have choice. However I think you may be in a minority believing this thread contained even the slightest suggestion of a discussion of 'how crap everything is.......etc'. What a load of old twaddle!

If, and it's a big if because as several people have said, only the folk there at the time actually know, but IF the sources RM found are to be believed then whatever their reasons for doing it, the non-Brits were the aggressors. In this instance. Because let's not kid ourself, this is one incident. Yes one very sad incident for one family. However we shouldn't make it representative of anything other than what happened there, that night.

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Even facts don’t seem to help in this case: Two Brits, early hours of the morning, two Nigerian prostitutes, an attack by two Spaniards and a Bulgarian, egg throwing, then a stick and a Brit dies.

Along come a British, and then a Spanish newspaper, with widely different versions of the events.

Quite naturally, discussed on a British expats in Spain site.

What can you comment on, as an expat, based on what you’ve read? I can only say that I was sad to read of it.

The Competa incident was a different story altogether.

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I have no inside knowledge of either this or the Competa incident, but I'm willing to bet that both incidents were similar in that they were both alcohol fuelled. :thumbdown:

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That could well be the case, but the dead man in Competa was an expat resident, like most of us, whereas the Majorca case involved a tourist. I’m not saying that both deaths are not equally regrettable, but for those of us who are resident in Spain, we are naturally concerned when one of us appears to have been killed by a mob of angry Spanish people, who resented the British presence in their town (at that time and in that place and for whatever reasons).

And if that 54-year old in Competa was drunk, and I don’t know whether he was or not, that does not provide any excuse for his murderers.

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I live near Competa and have heard a myriad of different stories of that night but without exception ALL OF THEM WERE ALCOHOL FUELLED - I can't understand that you can't see that. The Spanish in Competa don't resent the British presence. What happens in each major UK city at the weekend then ... residents of Manchester resenting other residents of Manchester!!!!!! I'm not excusing what anyone did in either Competa or Majorca - it's truly awful and life shattering for so many - I'm just saying that without the consumption of EXCESSIVE alcohol, 9 times out of 10, arguments don't escalate to that level. In my opinion, and it is just that, MY OPINION, alcohol is the curse here, not the expats, the Spanish or the Bulgarian. :(:(

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.................here here!.................its pretty sad when people behave like that in public, especially in someone elses country - men will be men, whether english or spanish but personally i would draw the line at that kind of behaviour - both sha--ing women in public and also hitting anyone so brutally, sometimes i despair at human beings - we are all still very tribal - it seems we dont progress at all...............

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read all the comments from 1-34 only comment/question i have is "where did they get EGGS at 04.30 in the morning

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I know a French lad that was attacked in Nottingham with a baseball bat (not to the same extent as above case) for "being French".

The British are some of the worst behaved people abroad. How many times have we read about stag parties or booze ups in Greece, Prague, Spain etc etc turning nasty This happens with some Irish aswell, seen it here, they think they can bring their stupid rowdy pubgames to here. I´ve seen them downing pints, shots, getting absolutely pissed, and either passing out or standing on the tables shouting in semi decent establishments.
They just don´t get it that this is unnacceptable behaviour.


Round this neck of the woods, no problems, as there are no Brits to cause them. If you go a bit further down to Chiclana, Sancti Pectri, places were some Brits go, people have told me about fights, headbuttings, people getting glassed. The unnacceptable behaviour has caused resentment to the locals. So you get a spiral of violence.

It´s all comes down to alcohol in the end, or in fact let me say that I think the people that drink to excess are already morons, just the alcohol acentuates that. Some Spanish people drink vast quantities but there is not that aggressive vibe (usually) with it. Being pissed and not in control of yourself is still frowned upon in many areas.

I know I can go out here on a Saturday and not see a fight, or feel threatened at any moment.

By the way I hope the people that killed the Brit are put away for a long time, because they are mindless thugs too.

Rant over.

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Why are you making this into a race thing?

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Going off topic a bit but has anyone seen all the prostitutes in the Guadalhorce Industrial estate in Málaga? It is full of black girls (maybe Nigerian) some dressed only in underwear during the day. The spanish truck drivers pick them up openly. Spaniards have always been big users of prostitutes, it's a cultural thing. In the old days Friday night was brothel night;)