Congratulations on your outstanding win Rugby Champions Cup
England 3 Wales 30

A certain Rugby fan seems conspicuous by his absence this evening.
No doubt he'll have more excuses than Gunga Din, and he had nine wives.

Yep, the wheel came off the chariot today.............. just got back from Cardiff, exceptionally highly charged game. A good ref that spoiled the usual England front row tactic, so they had little left up front, and were sorely let down elsewhere.
I don't do the 'tit for tat' thing, we did all the talking today,the scoreline says it all! Nos dda i chi gyd.

Look, I know you want me to bite so here ya go... England played the better tournament, they played some good rugby but ultimately, on the day, the better side won. It was one of the best games of 6 nations rugby I have watched in a long while and I enjoyed it thoroughly. Do I enjoy the fact that England lost on points difference? No, but that's sport for you, that's rugby, that's just the way it goes.
I haven't been conspicuous by my absence, I only ever come on here now to remind me how lucky I am I live in the UK... oh and for your information, the All Blacks are my chosen team, I was not born in the UK, only came here to live late in my adolescence and I have a Scottish mother, if I wanted to support anyone along petty nationalistic lines it would be Iran... or at a push Scotland.... Now... can we PLEASE move on!

Its like being in a special school around here sometimes!

Having been born in the Rhondda valley, brought up in Bridgend in South Wales and there during the JPR Williams era (his Dad was my family doctor), I'm absolutely thrilled with today's result.

GO WALES.

Wales deserved the win, of that there is no doubt but do you honestly think he is a good ref? He is on his last strike, one more serious breach and he is banned from reffing.

Well there you go, it's all down to shocking refereeing.
Hope those guys who play with real balls aren't reading this, they might pick up some bad habits.

......and here's me thinking that Matt must have been frantically tracing his family tree for some faint long forgotten trace of Welsh ancestry.

I'm English, my wife Welsh and my youngest son is 101% Welsh, and as usual I spoke with him after the game to congratulate Wales on their emphatic win. Before I said anything, he said " Whoa, that ref certainly hammered England", but then he looks at a game with both eyes. The ref, Steve Walsh (or Steve Welsh) has form, he's been suspended for "inappropriate behaviour" towards England, was banned from referring in his native New Zealand, so went to Oz and became an Aussie! A fellow ref described him as "a walking timebomb", how the man is ever refereeing any game is beyond me. His performance was predictable, that's why questions were asked before the game about his impartiality and why Wales were delighted to have him, describing him as "their lucky charm".
Good luck to Wales, they played to the ref, don't blame them for that, but you can't play rugby without the ball, and Walsh ensured England got very little of it. On a rugby site, "one of my favourite comments in the pub from a Welsh fan was "We should send Steve a Wales Rugby Shirt to say thank you"
http://www.theweek.co.uk/rugby/52001...-england-wales
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/rugbyna...1466-32997432/

Ahh right, so it was the ref that won Wales the game? not the superior performance by Wales, totally outclassing England in every department and area of the field - if in doubt (or embarrassed by your teams performance, blame the ref)

Nope - Wales were the far better team on the day and I don't think anyone would deny that they would have won it even with a good ref.

I don't know what was wrong with England yesterday - they are capable of much better - see the win against the all-blacks last autumn.

I suppose it's still a young, development team but even so I would have hoped for better.

Aside from Wales's well deserved victory the main talking point of the tournament is France. And if France had stuck a few more points past Scotland, Ireland could very easily have come last and Italy third.

Strange times...

Well said

Actually, AS I SAID, Wales deserved the win, they got their game right, got under Englands skin and they won the game emphatically, I never said the ref lost them the game, do I think the ref was a good one? No, I think he had a shocker of a game and personally I thought he got every single decision at the scrum wrong, on both sides, it just so happens that Wales learnt how to play him in the scrum better... but as I said, that's the game, there was a time that the Scottish gameplay was to constantly call for scrums against weaker teams, Scotland trained for it, their stamina at the scrum was far better than most and they destroyed weaker teams doing it. I once watched them call for a scrum after scrum against Western samoa, by the time the extremely dull period was over the Samoans were so knackered they could hardly run... if the game didn't have tactics it would be as dull as football.

So lets be clear because there are some special people on here who love to lick the odd window or two, Wales deserved to win.... OK? Got that, window lickers!?





Shut up ya pillock, you can be so boring sometimes!

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