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jojojojojo Oct 25th 2012 1:35 am

Re: Age of consent
 

Originally Posted by Pocaloca (Post 10349302)
Just read that Spain is likely to raise the age of consent and the marriageable age (currently 13 and 14 respectively). They haven't said what it will be raised to, though.

El Gobierno estudia elevar la edad para el consentimiento sexual y el matrimonio

One of the few sensible things this govt is doing, IMO. Thirteen is TOO young!

Its interesting that the UK has the highest number of teenage pregnancies in Europe tho - altho that doesnt necessarily mean underage sex - I suspect its more to do with the ease of the UKs benefit system

Jo xxx

cricketman Oct 25th 2012 1:53 am

Re: Age of consent
 

Originally Posted by jojojojojo (Post 10349335)
Its interesting that the UK has the highest number of teenage pregnancies in Europe tho - altho that doesnt necessarily mean underage sex - I suspect its more to do with the ease of the UKs benefit system

Jo xxx

As Pocaloca also posted - the UK also has the higest rate of 15 year olds who have had sex, at 40%, compared to 13% in Spain

Pocaloca Oct 25th 2012 2:01 am

Re: Age of consent
 

Originally Posted by jojojojojo (Post 10349335)
Its interesting that the UK has the highest number of teenage pregnancies in Europe tho - altho that doesnt necessarily mean underage sex - I suspect its more to do with the ease of the UKs benefit system

Jo xxx

Numbers are falling though. I suppose you would say this is because of the recent cuts in benefits, but the FPA thinks it's down to better sex education and easier access to contraception.

Teen pregnancies at lowest level since 1960s

The saddest thing in this article though is that half of all teenage pregnancies in the UK are aborted, so they've still got a long way to go.

jojojojojo Oct 25th 2012 2:01 am

Re: Age of consent
 

Originally Posted by cricketman (Post 10349363)
As Pocaloca also posted - the UK also has the higest rate of 15 year olds who have had sex, at 40%, compared to 13% in Spain

Is it simply because the UK has lost the "old fashioned" morals that it once had and that Spain still nurtures. The UK does seem very accepting and forgiving these days. Once upon a time a girl would be in serious trouble and scorned if she were to admit to having sex outside of wedlock - today, well its almost encouraged by our society?? If that is the case and Spain is still more strict on the subject, then it could also mean that girls arent prepared to admit to it???

Jo xxx

jojojojojo Oct 25th 2012 2:04 am

Re: Age of consent
 

Originally Posted by Pocaloca (Post 10349372)
The saddest thing in this article though is that half of all teenage pregnancies in the UK are aborted, so they've still got a long way to go.

The abortion issue is another thread. But in this day and age, theres no reason for anyone to fall pregnant if they dont want to (the odd one accepted) - and its also so easy to find out almost straight after "the deed" if you are pregnant and go to the GP and take a pill, the morning after and there is the abortion pills which can be taken up to 11 weeks I believe!

Jo xxx

cricketman Oct 25th 2012 2:09 am

Re: Age of consent
 

Originally Posted by jojojojojo (Post 10349374)
Is it simply because the UK has lost the "old fashioned" morals that it once had and that Spain still nurtures. The UK does seem very accepting and forgiving these days. Once upon a time a girl would be in serious trouble and scorned if she were to admit to having sex outside of wedlock - today, well its almost encouraged by our society?? If that is the case and Spain is still more strict on the subject, then it could also mean that girls arent prepared to admit to it???

Jo xxx

No, I dont think it is to do with old fashioned morals

Personally I think it is because sex is seen as glamorous among young people in the UK, mainly due to marketing. And there is a teenage culture of rebelling against their parents

Both are less prevalent in Spain - and Spanish children as a result grow up a little later on, and probably start doing things at around 18/19 than UK teenagers were doing much earlier.

Rotor Oct 25th 2012 2:12 am

Re: Age of consent
 

Originally Posted by cricketman (Post 10349363)
As Pocaloca also posted - the UK also has the higest rate of 15 year olds who have had sex, at 40%, compared to 13% in Spain

I wonder what percentage lie? in the UK they probably see it as being cool and boast more but in Spain ashamedly keep it quiet .

Pocaloca Oct 25th 2012 2:20 am

Re: Age of consent
 

Originally Posted by jojojojojo (Post 10349376)
The abortion issue is another thread. But in this day and age, theres no reason for anyone to fall pregnant if they dont want to (the odd one accepted) - and its also so easy to find out almost straight after "the deed" if you are pregnant and go to the GP and take a pill, the morning after and there is the abortion pills which can be taken up to 11 weeks I believe!

Jo xxx

Do you have to go to a GP for a morning after pill in the UK? Here you can get them from the chemist (though I hear our lovely govt is about to stop that).

I certainly wouldn't want to self-abort after 11 weeks, especially if I was a teenager who couldn't bring herself to tell her parents. :eek:

Better maybe to take a different approach and work on why some kids in the UK think they haven't had a good night out unless they've drunk themselves stupid and had a shag? (Sorry about the language, Ms Squeaky Clean, but you know what I mean! :))

Pocaloca Oct 25th 2012 2:22 am

Re: Age of consent
 

Originally Posted by Rotor (Post 10349389)
I wonder what percentage lie? in the UK they probably see it as being cool and boast more but in Spain ashamedly keep it quiet .

Then wouldn't the UK kids lie too, and pretend they have when they haven't? :sneaky: Probably cancels itself out!

jojojojojo Oct 25th 2012 2:36 am

Re: Age of consent
 

Originally Posted by Pocaloca (Post 10349401)
Do you have to go to a GP for a morning after pill in the UK? Here you can get them from the chemist (though I hear our lovely govt is about to stop that).

I certainly wouldn't want to self-abort after 11 weeks, especially if I was a teenager who couldn't bring herself to tell her parents. :eek:

Better maybe to take a different approach and work on why some kids in the UK think they haven't had a good night out unless they've drunk themselves stupid and had a shag? (Sorry about the language, Ms Squeaky Clean, but you know what I mean! :))


You can buy the morning after pill over the counter now, altho I think there are age restrictions. But of course its cheaper/free to get it on prescription!!!! I'm not that squeaky clean lol!! I dont understand the need for a shag at the end of the night (IME as we get older, we go out of our way to avoid it LOL!!?). But surely a better use of contraceptives would help. I dont believe that there are many, if any "unwanted pregnancies" in the UK that are caused thru lack of knowledge and as for not telling parents, I dont think teenagers are afraid of that one anymore.

Jo xxx

Domino Oct 25th 2012 3:47 am

Re: Age of consent
 

Originally Posted by cricketman (Post 10349363)
As Pocaloca also posted - the UK also has the higest rate of 15 year olds who have had sex, at 40%, compared to 13% in Spain

is that all smoke and mirrors - the Brits boasting and full of bravado and looking to shock whilst the Spanish hiding it in case the family finds out ??

Rotor Oct 25th 2012 8:52 pm

Re: Age of consent
 

Originally Posted by Domino (Post 10349540)
is that all smoke and mirrors - the Brits boasting and full of bravado and looking to shock whilst the Spanish hiding it in case the family finds out ??

Exactly what I thought.

jojojojojo Oct 25th 2012 9:34 pm

Re: Age of consent
 

Originally Posted by Domino (Post 10349540)
is that all smoke and mirrors - the Brits boasting and full of bravado and looking to shock whilst the Spanish hiding it in case the family finds out ??

Yep, I'm sure thats the case!

Interestingly, my daughter was talking about this subject yesterday. She said that she is the only one of her friends (they're all 15yos) who hasnt had sex!!!!! I told her that I'm sure most of them are lying. So she said, "should I lie too then???" FFS!!! I told her not to talk about it with them - decent girls dont. Its those quietly discreet girls who are probably those who have, but either way, its not an activity that should be broadcast in the playground. But what a weird state of affairs!!!!!



Jo xxxx

cricketman Oct 26th 2012 2:05 am

Re: Age of consent
 

Originally Posted by jojojojojo (Post 10350714)
Yep, I'm sure thats the case!

Interestingly, my daughter was talking about this subject yesterday. She said that she is the only one of her friends (they're all 15yos) who hasnt had sex!!!!! I told her that I'm sure most of them are lying. So she said, "should I lie too then???" FFS!!! I told her not to talk about it with them - decent girls dont. Its those quietly discreet girls who are probably those who have, but either way, its not an activity that should be broadcast in the playground. But what a weird state of affairs!!!!!



Jo xxxx

My wife says there was only one girl in her class who was having sex at 15, and she had mental health problems

Dick Dasterdly Oct 26th 2012 4:20 am

Re: Age of consent
 

Originally Posted by cricketman (Post 10351130)
My wife says there was only one girl in her class who was having sex at 15, and she had mental health problems

Which may well account for the fact that she was the only one who dared to own up to it.


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