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Re: Age of consent
Originally Posted by Domino
(Post 10347319)
good thinking, once a person becomes of legal majority then it is essentially their responsibility as to whom they be associated with, although most parents will offer guidance etc.
but statutory rape is just that, its taking advantage no matter how you want to put. And I stretch that out to include same sex relationships as well. Rosemary |
Re: Age of consent
Originally Posted by angiescarr
(Post 10347274)
I think what he's saying is most right minded people would find the prospect appalling and wonders if you think "other people are justifying it" Justifies it. I know 14, 13 12 even 11 year olds can flirt but there is NO justification in an adult acting on it. Rules are there to protect those at the age of innocence even though at the age of innocence some children are 'exploratory' It's up to the ADULT to exercise the self-control not for the CHILD. The reason a lot of CHILDREN don't report is that because of their curiosity they believe they hold some blame when they are ABUSED.
If you don't think it's justified then you should probably say so. Otherwise I'm afraid most people will infer that you do. However there's nothing wrong with throwing it open to discussion. A 16 year old and a 60 year old. Now that would be unusual...a bit weird and maybe a touch disturbing. However it would be legal. However my husband is 10 years younger than me and I'm not complainiing. My 'ex' married a 23 year old when he was twice her age and they're great together. We can have opinions about those things but there is no room (in my opinion) for opinions in statutory rape. But it is legal - in Spain and Germany, therefore OK? |
Re: Age of consent
Originally Posted by jimenato
(Post 10347420)
I think you are saying that 16 and 60 is unusual/odd but ultimately OK because it's legal whereas 14 and 60 isn't OK because it's not legal.
But it is legal - in Spain and Germany, therefore OK? When has this ever been the case? Laws should be imparted to solve problems, keep the peace and protect the vulnerable, not to act as a moral authority |
Re: Age of consent
Originally Posted by jimenato
(Post 10347420)
I think you are saying that 16 and 60 is unusual/odd but ultimately OK because it's legal whereas 14 and 60 isn't OK because it's not legal.
But it is legal - in Spain and Germany, therefore OK? Its not due to the age difference. |
Re: Age of consent
Originally Posted by Rotor
(Post 10347633)
Its not due to the age difference.
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Re: Age of consent
Originally Posted by jimenato
(Post 10347420)
I think you are saying that 16 and 60 is unusual/odd but ultimately OK because it's legal whereas 14 and 60 isn't OK because it's not legal.
But it is legal - in Spain and Germany, therefore OK? Jo xxxx |
Re: Age of consent
Surely this age difference thing is a bit of a red herring. If both parties care about each other, and want to get married or live together, what does age matter?
It is far worse for one of the parties to be forced into marriage - or sex - against their will, even if they are the same age. |
Re: Age of consent
Originally Posted by Pocaloca
(Post 10347726)
Surely this age difference thing is a bit of a red herring. If both parties care about each other, and want to get married or live together, what does age matter?
It is far worse for one of the parties to be forced into marriage - or sex - against their will, even if they are the same age. In answer to Rotor, I believe I'm right in saying that as long as the young person is above the age of consent then the age difference doesn't matter - thus 13 in Spain and 14 in Germany. There must not have been any coercion or exploitation (in Germany) or deceit (in Spain) involved though. |
Re: Age of consent
Originally Posted by Rosemary
(Post 10347409)
It is a difficult subject because reaching legal majority physically is one thing but there are so many very vulnerable adults who do not have the mental capacity to be totally responsible for themselves and they are therefore easy prey.
Rosemary and it doesnt necessarily have anything to do with 60yo men, its "boys" of 19 who also prey on younger girls. And to reverse it - what about female teachers who have sex with schoolboys who are under age.? That is not just statutory rape but a severe dereliction of their duty of care. To add to this there is the "arranged marriage" of under age girls who are taken out to one or two countries in the Indian sub-continent on holiday and come back "married" - all to ensure the family's place and relationship within certain circles. |
Re: Age of consent
The recent case of a UK teacher aged 30 going off to France with a 15 year old pupil made the press but I suppose if she was 30 and he 45 nobody would pass a comment, it 'sounds' better as they get older.
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Re: Age of consent
Originally Posted by bob_bob
(Post 10348490)
The recent case of a UK teacher aged 30 going off to France with a 15 year old pupil made the press but I suppose if she was 30 and he 45 nobody would pass a comment, it 'sounds' better as they get older.
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Re: Age of consent
Originally Posted by Domino
(Post 10348728)
well the 27yo female and 51yo fiancee wanting to book a "posh" hotel for their wedding were surprised to be copied in on an email saying they "weren't the type of people the business wished to cater for" (or similar) and thought it might have been their age difference.
Jo xxx |
Re: Age of consent
Originally Posted by jojojojojo
(Post 10348735)
I think that was more to do with her occupation http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...-stripper.html
Jo xxx |
Re: Age of consent
Originally Posted by bob_bob
(Post 10348490)
The recent case of a UK teacher aged 30 going off to France with a 15 year old pupil made the press but I suppose if she was 30 and he 45 nobody would pass a comment, it 'sounds' better as they get older.
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Re: Age of consent
Just read that Spain is likely to raise the age of consent and the marriageable age (currently 13 and 14 respectively). They haven't said what it will be raised to, though.
El Gobierno estudia elevar la edad para el consentimiento sexual y el matrimonio One of the few sensible things this govt is doing, IMO. Thirteen is TOO young! |
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