Advice and advise -- US/UK spelling
#121
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Fixed it for you.
Last edited by Norri; Apr 10th 2010 at 6:11 am.
#122
Re: Advice and advise -- US/UK spelling
Personally, I think that error may well have been caused by a less than rigorous use of the computer spell checker [e.g. "Aye red the book."] I've been caught by such errors from time to time. They should not happen, but they do.
BTW, in Pat Conroy's fine book "Beach Music," there is an instance where the print edition used the name of the small town from "Prince of Tides" in error. I'm sure the book was given rigorous editing, but that one got through.
BTW, in Pat Conroy's fine book "Beach Music," there is an instance where the print edition used the name of the small town from "Prince of Tides" in error. I'm sure the book was given rigorous editing, but that one got through.
Eye halve a spelling chequer
It came with my pea sea
It plainly marques four my revue
Miss steaks eye kin knot sea.
Eye strike a key and type a word
And weight four it two say
Weather eye am wrong oar write
It shows me strait a weigh.
As soon as a mist ache is maid
It nose bee fore two long
And eye can put the error rite
Its rare lea ever wrong.
Eye have run this poem threw it
I am shore your pleased two no
Its letter perfect awl the weigh
My chequer tolled me sew.
-- Sauce unknown --
#123
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Can I ask you lot in the US about the 'c' word? I was flabbergasted when my Irish neighbour when telling a joke used it in front of his dad (who was over for a visit). It seems almost 'harmless' there from what I can gather. A few years back on a drunken night out in Tokyo with some fellow westerners I used it casually as you do (not calling any specific person one, mind) but an American girl who was in our group struck me on the arm, not altogether playfully either.
BTW, the American equivalent of insulting another man would use the "p" word rather than the "c" word. I have no idea why.
When I was in the US Army, the "c" word was used as a description for the "garrison cap." The name is actually so descriptive I have to work hard not to use the vulgarity. [The other formal head covering at the time was the "bus driver hat." I understand that the beret is now commonly used.].
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Just a cultural difference. A Brit telling an American woman that "If you want, I will knock you up tonight" is a classic cultural difference.
BTW, the American equivalent of insulting another man would use the "p" word rather than the "c" word. I have no idea why.
When I was in the US Army, the "c" word was used as a description for the "garrison cap." The name is actually so descriptive I have to work hard not to use the vulgarity. [The other formal head covering at the time was the "bus driver hat." I understand that the beret is now commonly used.].
BTW, the American equivalent of insulting another man would use the "p" word rather than the "c" word. I have no idea why.
When I was in the US Army, the "c" word was used as a description for the "garrison cap." The name is actually so descriptive I have to work hard not to use the vulgarity. [The other formal head covering at the time was the "bus driver hat." I understand that the beret is now commonly used.].
Do you use (well, do men use?) the word 'dog' to describe women who are (ugly) hounds? (supply your own Chubby Brown joke...)
Caught a clip once from a Jerry Springer show where the vile women on stage kept insulting this bloke calling him a 'dog' at every opportunity.
Sorry if I'm boring the arse off those of you living in the States. Just curious. Only ever been to Hawaii.
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Re: Advice and advise -- US/UK spelling
A man calling a woman a dog would be the equivalent of something like "slag". A woman calling a man a dog is derogatory, being the male equivalent of "slut". A man calling another man a dog is a compliment, implying sexual prowess.
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Is it true or a myth that in the US they tend to avoid using the present perfect tense whenever possible?
As in 'did you call him already?' rather than 'have you rung him yet?' or 'I lost my key' rather than 'I've lost my key'.
As for Spanish, my Peruvian friend never uses the present perfect tense where the preterite could be employed, eg 'que hiciste hoy?' rather than 'que has hecho hoy?' (what did you get up to today?) which is more likely to be used in Spain.
As in 'did you call him already?' rather than 'have you rung him yet?' or 'I lost my key' rather than 'I've lost my key'.
As for Spanish, my Peruvian friend never uses the present perfect tense where the preterite could be employed, eg 'que hiciste hoy?' rather than 'que has hecho hoy?' (what did you get up to today?) which is more likely to be used in Spain.
That's probably just me, however.
Last edited by SultanOfSwing; Apr 10th 2010 at 4:34 pm. Reason: fixing my own grammatical error ;)
#128
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My poem on righting write, for Ace Fooling Ski:
Eye halve a spelling chequer
It came with my pea sea
It plainly marques four my revue
Miss steaks eye kin knot sea.
Eye strike a key and type a word
And weight four it two say
Weather eye am wrong oar write
It shows me strait a weigh.
As soon as a mist ache is maid
It nose bee fore two long
And eye can put the error rite
Its rare lea ever wrong.
Eye have run this poem threw it
I am shore your pleased two no
Its letter perfect awl the weigh
My chequer tolled me sew.
-- Sauce unknown --
Eye halve a spelling chequer
It came with my pea sea
It plainly marques four my revue
Miss steaks eye kin knot sea.
Eye strike a key and type a word
And weight four it two say
Weather eye am wrong oar write
It shows me strait a weigh.
As soon as a mist ache is maid
It nose bee fore two long
And eye can put the error rite
Its rare lea ever wrong.
Eye have run this poem threw it
I am shore your pleased two no
Its letter perfect awl the weigh
My chequer tolled me sew.
-- Sauce unknown --
#129
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I hear it quite a bit, yes. All kinds of errors made in speech out here too. One of my least favourites is the "I am thinking . . ." style one. It may well be correct but there always seems to be some kind of built in redundancy in that expression that doesn't sit right with me. Like "I was wondering . . ." Not right to my ears!
That's probably just me, however.
That's probably just me, however.
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Calling a woman a "dog" has really nothing to do with sexuality -- it is a pejorative -- but more in the sense of "ugly."
"Bitch" is no longer considered all that vulgar. When used to describe a woman, it is a reference to personality -- and in some quarters is considered a compliment.
I happen to know a woman who is, not only a "dog," but is not a "bitch." If she was a "bitch," it would be an improvement. A female friend of mine mentioned to me the "girl talk" that this woman often complained that no man would go to bed with her more than once. My reaction was "that many?"
A friend of mine was a Navy carrier pilot in World War II -- he was trained to fly the Curtis Helldiver, which was heartily disliked by those who had to fly the thing. It designation was "SB2C" which the pilots joked meant "Son Of a Bitch, 2nd Class." He later went on to fly the Corsair, Mustang and Spitfire. He just loved the Spitfire -- calling a "girl's airplane" in the sense of it was so sweet to fly. He does admit that the younger folks take his reference to "girl's airplane" in a sense than what he means.
Last aside: the California State building in LA did not do well in the 1971 Sylmar earthquake and was torn down. Eventually, a new building was erected and dedicated as the "Ronald Reagan State Office Building." Within a year, the word "office" was deleted from the name.
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So not much call for "Cockthumpingthunderc#nt" then?
seems to get used when the Red Sox don't fair so well against the Yanks around my way
seems to get used when the Red Sox don't fair so well against the Yanks around my way
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Re: Advice and advise -- US/UK spelling
I tread on tender ground here as a husband with two grown daughters. But you happen to be wrong.
Calling a woman a "dog" has really nothing to do with sexuality -- it is a pejorative -- but more in the sense of "ugly."
"Bitch" is no longer considered all that vulgar. When used to describe a woman, it is a reference to personality -- and in some quarters is considered a compliment.
Calling a woman a "dog" has really nothing to do with sexuality -- it is a pejorative -- but more in the sense of "ugly."
"Bitch" is no longer considered all that vulgar. When used to describe a woman, it is a reference to personality -- and in some quarters is considered a compliment.
- that was just funny! And kudos to the pilot friend of yours who complimented the Spitfire. Sadly I realised too late that I wanted to be a pilot, but as a Brit who loves aviation, the Spitfire is a thing of beauty to me. I'd love to be able to fly one, but I can't even afford to take lessons in a Cessna, never mind get certified to fly the old war birds!
The Corsair and Mustang were beautiful planes too though
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And kudos to the pilot friend of yours who complimented the Spitfire. Sadly I realised too late that I wanted to be a pilot, but as a Brit who loves aviation, the Spitfire is a thing of beauty to me. I'd love to be able to fly one, but I can't even afford to take lessons in a Cessna, never mind get certified to fly the old war birds!
The Corsair and Mustang were beautiful planes too though
The Corsair and Mustang were beautiful planes too though
BTW, he was an original member of the "101 Squadron." I once asked him why he did that -- "adventure" or "being young and foolish." He said "both" with a smile but then explained that during the Second World War, they knew that things were extremely bad for Jews under the Nazis. "However, we had had a failure of imagination. A Jewish State just seemed to be a good idea." A funny thing is that he is not an ardent Zionist. He came back to the US in 1949.
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The worst airplane he flew as the Avia S-199 which he called a "Messerschmidt." He had flown off the USS Wasp (CV-18), which is not easy. This was especially true for the Corsair. He was kind of happy when he destroyed one of the S-199's on landing -- he hated the machine so much.
Flying any plane off a carrier can't be easy but those ones from the 40s must have been so much harder compared to the fighters of today. I'm more impressed at how they can land the bloody things on a boat