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Forum: The Sand Pit
May 22nd 2016, 2:28 pm
Replies: 871
Views: 54,007
Posted By Eeyore

Re: The Brexit; Are you in or out?

If you say so. Doesn't stop it all being perfectly valid, does it?

Posting simplistic context-free memes as if they prove anything is a complete waste of time, as is stating a question like...
Forum: The Sand Pit
May 21st 2016, 11:21 am
Replies: 871
Views: 54,007
Posted By Eeyore

Re: The Brexit; Are you in or out?

In other words, you can't actually answer my questions, and you probably don't like me using long words like "contextualisation"?

Brexit The Movie isn't any kind of even-handed assessment of the...
Forum: The Sand Pit
May 19th 2016, 1:42 pm
Replies: 871
Views: 54,007
Posted By Eeyore

Re: The Brexit; Are you in or out?

You may not wish to refer to yourself as European, but you are. The word "European" refers to natives or inhabitants of Europe. The continent of Europe encompasses the UK whether you like it or not,...
Forum: The Sand Pit
May 18th 2016, 2:03 pm
Replies: 871
Views: 54,007
Posted By Eeyore

Re: The Brexit; Are you in or out?

Of course the UK will survive, that's not the issue at all. The issue is how *well* it survives.

Define "quickly". It's completely standard for these things to take many years to negotiate, they...
Forum: The Sand Pit
May 17th 2016, 11:05 am
Replies: 871
Views: 54,007
Posted By Eeyore

Re: The Brexit; Are you in or out?

And Leave are enthusiastically using scare tactics too, of course. But as well as trying to frighten people with visions of what will happen if we stay, they're insisting that there are absolutely no...
Forum: The Sand Pit
May 16th 2016, 7:32 pm
Replies: 871
Views: 54,007
Posted By Eeyore

Re: The Brexit; Are you in or out?

You then go on to list all the usual boilerplate, talking in the most general broad-brush terms and reiterating pretty much all the standard Euromyths. We've been over that ground before, so I'll...
Forum: The Sand Pit
Feb 28th 2016, 1:55 am
Replies: 871
Views: 54,007
Posted By Eeyore

Re: The Brexit; Are you in or out?

PPP and PFI are a separate issue. The point I was making is that the idea, heavily promulgated by the Tories at the 2010 election and repeated frequently since in order to justify austerity, that...
Forum: The Sand Pit
Feb 25th 2016, 10:20 pm
Replies: 871
Views: 54,007
Posted By Eeyore

Re: The Brexit; Are you in or out?

Well, it's always good to read a thoughtful, insightful response rather than a vaguely ad hominem knee-jerk.

Presumably you've never actually read much Tory election material, then. They reliably...
Forum: The Sand Pit
Feb 23rd 2016, 2:37 pm
Replies: 871
Views: 54,007
Posted By Eeyore

Re: The Brexit; Are you in or out?

Doubtless a lot of it would, but plenty of it would not - mostly the stuff relating to employment rights, social protections, environmental protection and the rest.

This is my real concern....
Forum: The Sand Pit
Feb 22nd 2016, 4:32 pm
Replies: 871
Views: 54,007
Posted By Eeyore

Re: The Brexit; Are you in or out?

To reiterate, it's lots of generic anti-EU boilerplate wrapped in the usual "patriotic" kapok. What it doesn't do, of course, is offer anything approaching an honest assessment of the pros and...
Forum: The Sand Pit
Feb 22nd 2016, 12:28 pm
Replies: 871
Views: 54,007
Posted By Eeyore

Re: The Brexit; Are you in or out?

I don't think the outcome is necessarily set in stone. The Mail does indeed have the highest circulation of any UK newspaper, but 97% of the population doesn't read it.

It could be a tight win for...
Forum: The Sand Pit
Feb 22nd 2016, 12:18 pm
Replies: 871
Views: 54,007
Posted By Eeyore

Re: The Brexit; Are you in or out?

I've no doubt many will appear shortly. Of course, the pro-EU arguments will likely be more considered and nuanced; the anti-EU camp has the advantage of being able to employ knee-jerk Little...
Forum: The Sand Pit
Feb 22nd 2016, 11:51 am
Replies: 871
Views: 54,007
Posted By Eeyore

Re: The Brexit; Are you in or out?

It makes sense, and this isn't a new development either, it was being discussed way before the last referendum. If Scotland votes overwhelmingly to stay in the EU (which it very likely will), but the...
Forum: The Sand Pit
Feb 22nd 2016, 10:59 am
Replies: 871
Views: 54,007
Posted By Eeyore

Re: The Brexit; Are you in or out?

They are? You've already forgotten the fracas between the CBI and Vote Leave late last year?

While it's inevitable that many companies that do most/all of their trade with Europe will prefer to...
Forum: The Sand Pit
Feb 21st 2016, 7:58 pm
Replies: 871
Views: 54,007
Posted By Eeyore

Re: The Brexit; Are you in or out?

To echo mikelincs, Cameron said it because it's a fact. The UK does 40% of its trade with Europe so membership of EFTA would be essential in the event of a Brexit, and allowing free movement of EU...
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