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Re: Thought this would of been done by now
Originally Posted by shiva
(Post 10673965)
Hmmm id also suggest more time in the North of England.
The English villiage myth is one of the South east of england largely, there are many reasons for this and the apparent harshness of villages north of watford, not least of which is geography and geology and the then inherent industries that evolved. As for the North of Scotland village life has still not recovered from the clearances and thousands of villages still remain derelict and abandoned and will never be resettled due to the change from an agrarian society.l |
Re: Thought this would of been done by now
Originally Posted by Meow
(Post 10673988)
I think we'll need a new thread for that mate. This one is a fight about Englishness! ;)
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Re: Thought this would of been done by now
Originally Posted by britexpat76
(Post 10673994)
I have to disagree with that. I was raised in a Lincolnshire Village and it was beautiful. Everything you wanted within 10 minutes, you knew the owner of the Corner shop, Policeman, Chippy owner, Landlord and vicar. Most of the industry was located in cities or mining Towns - Certainly not Villages in the true sense of the word.
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Re: Thought this would of been done by now
Originally Posted by Meow
(Post 10673953)
Dare we mention the origins of tartan? ;)
St. Patrick wasn't Irish, St. Andrew was as Scottish as Mel Gibson (but with less Jew hate) and only St. David seems to be of the same ethnicity as the people he 'Patrons'. All these Patron Saints are simply Catholic relics we cling to as an excuse for a national day. They are not meant to be representatives of said nations nor form the core of those nations identity...everyone knows English identity is based on class, piracy, good manners and casual violence. I'm off to celebrate Harald Godwinson day... N. |
Re: Thought this would of been done by now
Originally Posted by shiva
(Post 10673999)
There's no such thing. Angles, Saxons, hugenots et all but English, no. All them dirty foregin invaders pushed them out a long time ago
By your suggestion I am not English, despite being born in Hampshire of UK domiciled parents as my grandparents are ethnically English, Welsh, Russian and Austrian. Surely not accepting someone is British (or whatever) after a generation or two is part of the problem with racism that the whole country has? |
Re: Thought this would of been done by now
Originally Posted by Meow
(Post 10673950)
But a proper tough British drinker ought to be able to manage for than four pints before spewing! :D
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Re: Thought this would of been done by now
Originally Posted by shiva
(Post 10674004)
thats what im saying, ethos believes in this perfect biscuit box picture of a village that only exists in Surrey, im saying that village life exists everywhere but it just looks different
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Re: Thought this would of been done by now
Originally Posted by nonthaburi
(Post 10674016)
Guess it's official then, I'm just not British enough!
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Re: Thought this would of been done by now
You would have to view each and every village in England to give a qualified answer to that debate, Whitby and Saltburn are very nice but are they towns or villages?
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Re: Thought this would of been done by now
Village life exists everywhere but my point is that it's romanticised to a degree in England as part of the English cultural mythology in a way it isn't in Scotland. The reasons abound - highland clearances devastated many regions and left the places largely devoid of villages. Clan loyalty usurped village loyalty. The remoteness and smaller population size also meant Scotland didn't become a place with a village every few miles apart. When people in Scotland talk about living in the country, they genuinely mean the out in the remote countryside or the highlands. In England, when people talk about living in the country, they mean in a village or just outside one. The settled and relatively peaceful nature of southern England also benefited the village culture, giving rise to the tightly knit environment of church, manor house, cottages, pub, a shop or two and the cricket pitch that was duplicated all over the country. Cricket itself is the quintessential English sport and not only that but a village sport. But it's certainly not a Scottish sport, is it?
It also helps that English villages lend themselves to the picturesque in a way Scottish villages generally don't. Sit back and think about it for a minute. Picture an English village, what do you get? A chocolate box home county affair or even a stone village in Yorkshire. But when it comes to a Scottish village many will struggle to provide a convicing and easily recognizable image of one. The coastal fishing villages are perhaps the exception but even those images are subject to the sea or the mountain in the background. It's an entirely different imagery.
Originally Posted by shiva
(Post 10674004)
thats what im saying, ethos believes in this perfect biscuit box picture of a village that only exists in Surrey, im saying that village life exists everywhere but it just looks different
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Re: Thought this would of been done by now
Originally Posted by Meow
(Post 10674014)
So how many generations does it take someone to become a particular nationality?
By your suggestion I am not English, despite being born in Hampshire of UK domiciled parents as my grandparents are ethnically English, Welsh, Russian and Austrian. Surely not accepting someone is British (or whatever) after a generation or two is part of the problem with racism that the whole country has? Just to join in the village-hunt, I lived in a lovely one just outside Salisbury in the South West. That is therefore, the only village in the world and better than all of your villages combined. :p:p:p:p |
Re: Thought this would of been done by now
County Durham has just declared independence from you nutters
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Re: Thought this would of been done by now
Originally Posted by Scamp
(Post 10674092)
Hampshire girl? You just went up ten-fold in my eyes!
Just to join in the village-hunt, I lived in a lovely one just outside Salisbury in the South West. That is therefore, the only village in the world and better than all of your villages combined. :p:p:p:p Scamp in his village |
Re: Thought this would of been done by now
Originally Posted by Sandboy
(Post 10674099)
County Durham has just declared independence from you nutters
Load off my mind. ;) |
Re: Thought this would of been done by now
Originally Posted by Meow
(Post 10674014)
So how many generations does it take someone to become a particular nationality?
By your suggestion I am not English, despite being born in Hampshire of UK domiciled parents as my grandparents are ethnically English, Welsh, Russian and Austrian. Surely not accepting someone is British (or whatever) after a generation or two is part of the problem with racism that the whole country has? |
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