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Re: Thought this would of been done by now
Originally Posted by britexpat76
(Post 10674019)
What is different about a Surrey village and a Lincolnshire/Hertfordshire/Devon or cornwall one? Granted some Yorkshire/Lancashire ones were a little bleak though thats down to shite weather. :confused:
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Re: Thought this would of been done by now
Originally Posted by Scamp
(Post 10674107)
Thank god for that.
Load off my mind. ;) http://www.e-mailstrategies.com/ebul...ocation-SR.jpg |
Re: Thought this would of been done by now
Originally Posted by Ethos83
(Post 10674065)
Village life exists everywhere but my point is that it's romanticised to a degree in England as part of the English cultural mythology in a way it isn't in Scotland. The reasons abound - highland clearances devastated many regions and left the places largely devoid of villages. Clan loyalty usurped village loyalty. The remoteness and smaller population size also meant Scotland didn't become a place with a village every few miles apart. When people in Scotland talk about living in the country, they genuinely mean the out in the remote countryside or the highlands. In England, when people talk about living in the country, they mean in a village or just outside one. The settled and relatively peaceful nature of southern England also benefited the village culture, giving rise to the tightly knit environment of church, manor house, cottages, pub, a shop or two and the cricket pitch that was duplicated all over the country. Cricket itself is the quintessential English sport and not only that but a village sport. But it's certainly not a Scottish sport, is it?
It also helps that English villages lend themselves to the picturesque in a way Scottish villages generally don't. Sit back and think about it for a minute. Picture an English village, what do you get? A chocolate box home county affair or even a stone village in Yorkshire. But when it comes to a Scottish village many will struggle to provide a convicing and easily recognizable image of one. The coastal fishing villages are perhaps the exception but even those images are subject to the sea or the mountain in the background. It's an entirely different imagery. One thing that always amuses me when in deepest darkest Kent or Surrey is the definition of living in the country. For the local inhabitants its pretty much anywhere you can see greenery from your windows! Going back to romantic visions for a moment, it is a tad myopic to assume that the entire rest of the uk has no vision of a village of its own. |
Re: Thought this would of been done by now
I am 7 generation English, thats as far as I can trace the family tree!
Am I actually British though? |
Re: Thought this would of been done by now
I have Salis of Salisbury blood and the blood of the Huguenots in my family, i think somewhere I am also related to the Howard's of Norfolk, Angles all.
Not english, more likely to be from France i feel or gaunt or whatever it was. The point being none of us are really english, therefore negating the need for racism not inciting it. On another note, i'm not religious nor do i belong to the WI but i do love Jerusalem, the song not the place. |
Re: Thought this would of been done by now
It would be nice on the day of the patron saint if the language were used correctly.
Although granted when spoken it does sound somewhat like "Thought this would of been done by now", what you mean is "Thought this would've been done by now". :( |
Re: Thought this would of been done by now
Originally Posted by Theseus
(Post 10674159)
I have Salis of Salisbury blood and the blood of the Huguenots in my family, i think somewhere I am also related to the Howard's of Norfolk, Angles all.
Also are you an excellent swimmer? |
Re: Thought this would of been done by now
Originally Posted by shiva
(Post 10674109)
Knew I should have added a smiley face ;-)
Scamp - I was born in Aldershot, the home of the British Army. Hardly the most picturesque part of the county and I left when I was two |
Re: Thought this would of been done by now
Originally Posted by Meow
(Post 10674204)
:) Well, I am a bit of a mongrel and as Mr Meow's family have been in Yorkshire forever, he refers to me as the gypsy immigrant, especially as I have lived in quite a few places. :rolleyes:
Scamp - I was born in Aldershot, the home of the British Army. Hardly the most picturesque part of the county and I left when I was two |
Re: Thought this would of been done by now
Originally Posted by Sandboy
(Post 10674119)
you'll have to apply for a visa should you ever wish to visit our World Heritage Site.... we all saw your neck of the woods with that woman dancing last week
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Originally Posted by Meow
(Post 10674204)
Scamp - I was born in Aldershot, the home of the British Army. Hardly the most picturesque part of the county and I left when I was two |
Re: Thought this would of been done by now
Correction: home is Somerset where we have fairly deep roots. Not the suburbia that is now the southeast.
We can agree there are different types of villages and god knows the architecture and building vernacular varies but it doesn't obscure that the iconic image of the village in the English mindset is different from those in Scotland or Northern Ireland or even Wales, and compared to Scotland the notion of an 'English village' plays a stronger role in the cultural psyche (in Scotland I'd say the croft is more iconic than any village). Northburi was claiming there's no English culture or identity separate from Britain, unlike Scotland. Sure, Scotland has its tartans and highlands lairds and lochs and glens and crofts and whisky and Walter Scott and Robert Bruce but England has its cricket, Morris dancing, warm beer, thatched cottages, Elizabeth I, Shakespeare, Thomas Hardy and Vaughn Williams...and yes, the 'village' which is part of that idealised merrie olde Englande cultural identity the way it isn't in the Scottish identity. Likewise there's no equivalent of the croft in the English identity. Ok, enough said. Back to work.
Originally Posted by shiva
(Post 10674122)
We're starting to agree but your vision of picturesque is exactly that, it's the vision you have been brought up to associate with a village. One that is essentially south eastern. Like oh so many from the south east or who have little experience outside there you are attempting to define all village life and looks by a very narrow definition.
One thing that always amuses me when in deepest darkest Kent or Surrey is the definition of living in the country. For the local inhabitants its pretty much anywhere you can see greenery from your windows! Going back to romantic visions for a moment, it is a tad myopic to assume that the entire rest of the uk has no vision of a village of its own. |
Re: Thought this would of been done by now
Since until now mostly English and British people have participated in this thread, i'd like to add what "Johnny Foreigner" thinks is English :
1. Big Ben 2. Red double decker busses 3. The Queen 4. Black London taxis 5.Red Post boxes 6. English humour 7. Fish and Chips This is what I was taught as being "English" when I grew up. Now I'd have to add a few things. But not on this thread. Happy Saint George's Day to all. :) |
Re: Thought this would of been done by now
Originally Posted by Scamp
(Post 10674289)
I refer the gentleman to Salisbury Cathedral. We've played this game before and it can't be topped. .
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Re: Thought this would of been done by now
Originally Posted by Sandboy
(Post 10674743)
Not in Hampshire though, disqualified
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Re: Thought this would of been done by now
Never had you pegged as a choirboy, Scampi. The more you know.
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