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Meow Aug 15th 2013 10:37 am

Some people never learn
 
Remember those vile and offensive ads from The Circuit Factory using Auschwitz to promote their gym? Well the owner is at it again. This time being a homophobic bigot.

http://www.thenational.ae/news/uae-n...-former-client

Seems he has actually broken UAE law this time, so I hope he learns a lesson. Or is taught one.

:thumbdown:

Meow Aug 15th 2013 11:01 am

Re: Some people never learn
 
And article about legal comment here:

http://www.thenational.ae/news/uae-n...ntroversial-ad

Some comments as to why the ad is supposed to be offensive are not the reasons most of us would cite, but whatever it takes to stop this twat will do for now.

Bongoman2 Aug 15th 2013 12:00 pm

Re: Some people never learn
 
It is one thing to have a marketing strategy based on pushing the boundaries of decency, but to do so in the UAE is pretty stupid.

He seems like a pretty vapid character in the first place

Ronnie Biggs Aug 15th 2013 12:19 pm

Re: Some people never learn
 
I find it far more offensive that people call the police when they are offended. To paraphrase Stephen Fry, isn't "I find that offensive!!" little more than a whine.....? So what.

Meow Aug 15th 2013 12:33 pm

Re: Some people never learn
 

Originally Posted by Ronnie Biggs (Post 10851949)
I find it far more offensive that people call the police when they are offended. To paraphrase Stephen Fry, isn't "I find that offensive!!" little more than a whine.....? So what.

I would suggest that most reasonably minded people find homophobia and using a Nazi labour camp to advertise a gym as rather offensive, as well as gratuitous and insenstive. Even Mr Fry himself.

Bongoman2 Aug 15th 2013 12:46 pm

Re: Some people never learn
 

Originally Posted by Ronnie Biggs (Post 10851949)
I find it far more offensive that people call the police when they are offended. To paraphrase Stephen Fry, isn't "I find that offensive!!" little more than a whine.....? So what.

So, if there was a Mrs Fry who was pretty fit, then he might not be batting for the other side?

I am pretty sure he would be offended by a company using this as their marketing strategy

Bahtatboy Aug 15th 2013 12:57 pm

Re: Some people never learn
 
I think the point about it being offensive--or not--is irrelevant. I'm in Mr Fry's camp there.

Two things should decide if they should stop / be stopped.

First, is it illegal? And I don't believe in legislating about bad taste. Would he get away with it in UK? Dunno, but that's irrelevant too.

Second, will it damage his business? That's up to him to know.

Otherwise we end up in a situation where someone could be arrested for being in charge of an offensive wife. I think some satirists may have done a sketch about that...

Bahtatboy Aug 15th 2013 12:58 pm

Re: Some people never learn
 

Originally Posted by Bongoman2 (Post 10851975)
So, if there was a Mrs Fry who was pretty fit, then he might not be batting for the other side?

I am pretty sure he would be offended by a company using this as their marketing strategy

I doubt it. And as a man of integrity, even if he was offended I believe he'd stand by his own advice.

Yoohoo Aug 15th 2013 1:13 pm

Re: Some people never learn
 
[QUOTE=Bahtatboy;10851985]I think the point about it being offensive--or not--is irrelevant. I'm in Mr Fry's camp there.

QUOTE]

:rofl: I saw what you did with that one....

the_red_sheep Aug 15th 2013 1:54 pm

Re: Some people never learn
 

Originally Posted by Meow (Post 10851964)
I would suggest that most reasonably minded people find homophobia and using a Nazi labour camp to advertise a gym as rather offensive, as well as gratuitous and insenstive. Even Mr Fry himself.

The ad is stupid and distasteful but, without seeing it and only reading the article, it doesn't sound as though it’s homophobic.

Also, the laws which it has apparently broken ‘breaching modesty, promoting sin and even the act of consensual sex’ all sound completely ridiculous.

The best quite from the article is the last one ‘Dubai is a liberal place…’.

Blue Cat Aug 15th 2013 1:57 pm

Re: Some people never learn
 

Originally Posted by Meow (Post 10851787)
Remember those vile and offensive ads from The Circuit Factory using Auschwitz to promote their gym? Well the owner is at it again. This time being a homophobic bigot.

http://www.thenational.ae/news/uae-n...-former-client

Seems he has actually broken UAE law this time, so I hope he learns a lesson. Or is taught one.

:thumbdown:

is any legal action actually being taken? I hope so.

Ronnie Biggs Aug 15th 2013 2:25 pm

Re: Some people never learn
 

Originally Posted by Meow (Post 10851964)
I would suggest that most reasonably minded people find homophobia and using a Nazi labour camp to advertise a gym as rather offensive, as well as gratuitous and insenstive. Even Mr Fry himself.

Agree that it's utter nonsense and that the guy is a total berk....

The point is, "offensive" is subjective and little more than an a opinion. Offensive is not a call the police scenario in my book and I always find it strange when Western Expats go back a hundred years and join in.....

jam25mack Aug 15th 2013 2:55 pm

Re: Some people never learn
 
I've seen it and to say its homophobic is stretching it massively. It's out there but its more funny / silly than offensive.

Funny some of the comments on here from folk who haven't seen the vid or have even met the guy.....

Meow Aug 15th 2013 3:46 pm

Re: Some people never learn
 
He has a history of poor taste ads and attention seeking.

Some of us have seen the ads and no I haven't called the police if that is what is being suggested. The owner seems like a vile specimen from everything I know about him and for the record his denials about not approving the holocaust ads are fake.

The reasons cited for legal action are ridiculous, but the whole attitude of the company is that of an arrogant meathead.

I'm being zen about it now, as I assume the people who approve of their unpleasant attitudes will go to the gym so they are all together in one place, away from decent people. Maybe they'll pull a muscle or two.

Ronnie Biggs Aug 15th 2013 4:03 pm

Re: Some people never learn
 

Originally Posted by Meow (Post 10852317)
He has a history of poor taste ads and attention seeking.

Some of us have seen the ads and no I haven't called the police if that is what is being suggested. The owner seems like a vile specimen from everything I know about him and for the record his denials about not approving the holocaust ads are fake.

The reasons cited for legal action are ridiculous, but the whole attitude of the company is that of an arrogant meathead.

I'm being zen about it now, as I assume the people who approve of their unpleasant attitudes will go to the gym so they are all together in one place, away from decent people. Maybe they'll pull a muscle or two.

Just to clairify I definitely wasn't lumping you in with the "call the police" contingent.

Furthermore, as a general rule not linked to this thread, I have always thought places where muppets can congregate are a good thing as it keeps them all in one easily avoidable place. Basildon is a good example.


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