Re: this is so horrible
Originally Posted by Bahtatboy
(Post 9132329)
Agreed. Apart from colonisation, I don't know what the answer is.
|
Re: this is so horrible
I don't know how anyone can say 'leave them to it', when innocent people are being murdered and in such a horrific manner.
|
Re: this is so horrible
Originally Posted by EmiratesMillhouse
(Post 9132978)
spot on. our self righteous meddling just makes it worse.
Besides natural resources. I have come to realize that every people need their own way. Ours fits us, theirs fits them. We might not agree or even understand what they do...but it might just be right for them. All people are not equal. As some of my Muslim friends say...all 5 fingers are on one hand, but all are different. |
Re: this is so horrible
Originally Posted by JulesinDXB
(Post 9133059)
I don't know how anyone can say 'leave them to it', when innocent people are being murdered and in such a horrific manner.
And interference there was , is...and? What has it done? Nothing good so far.IMHO. When I look around and listen ...most of what I hear is dislike from all sides. Maybe we must accept that our norms work for us and not for them...even if that includes our way of looking at humanity...for them it is different. I think it is about time we accept that. And I do not feel we are arrogant or meddling to try to bring our way of thinking about humanity in particular to them, but we have , at some point to admit defeat. For me this point is now. If they want to kill each other in those ways, we ought to leave them to it. And you know what is the worst...all this has brought it to THEM and US...sad, sad state. |
Re: this is so horrible
Originally Posted by Spugsy
(Post 9132600)
Yeah but christians don't actually live by it and go around killing each other for honour killings or jihad or owt.
Quite how or why we Europeans have moved so far away from our religion (Christian - Protestant, Catholic and Orthodox as well as all the rest!) as to have made it so pick'n'mix anodyne, I don't know. Had we not, we'd still be fasting during Lent, doing our pilgrimages and following the food guidelines as well as all the rest... which isn't really at all far away from current Muslims. Not saying I condone any of it - I have a firm stance on religion being one of the first forms of social control - but it's an interesting study. I also think that it's so ingrained that there's nothing anyone can do by "regime change"... you'd literally need to systematically wipe all the extremists from the face of the earth, and that would neither be ethical nor democratic, would it? |
Re: this is so horrible
At the abse of all religions they teach the same thing with regards to morals, social control etc etc it's the nuts jobs who then take it that step further. Wiping them all out wouldn't be such a bad idea in my book.
|
Re: this is so horrible
Originally Posted by JulesinDXB
(Post 9133125)
At the abse of all religions they teach the same thing with regards to morals, social control etc etc it's the nuts jobs who then take it that step further. Wiping them all out wouldn't be such a bad idea in my book.
|
All times are GMT. The time now is 4:47 pm. |
Powered by vBulletin: ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.