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Re: And so it begins...
Originally Posted by Miss Ann Thrope
(Post 12158173)
You've made a point here that I think others are missing a bit which is the recalibration of what is acceptable and "normal" that appears to be taking place. Trump and his minions are institutionalising a whole suite of behaviours that would have been considered completely unacceptable before.
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Re: And so it begins...
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Re: And so it begins...
Originally Posted by Miss Ann Thrope
(Post 12158173)
You've made a point here that I think others are missing a bit which is the recalibration of what is acceptable and "normal" that appears to be taking place. Trump and his minions are institutionalising a whole suite of behaviours that would have been considered completely unacceptable before. Much as I am concerned about the evisceration of climate change mitigation, civil rights and public access to healthcare (I have friends and family in the US likely to be affected) that is already underway, I am scared sh*tless about the aggressive assault on facts and reality.
Trump himself tweeted about "record" crowds at his inauguration when all independent evidence including photos and reports of users on the DC metro indicate his event had much lower crowds than for either of Obama's inaugurations - and even lower than W's. Then his press secretary attacked the media yesterday for lying about inauguration crowds when in fact they were simply reporting factually. Again the unsupported line of "record crowds" was trotted out. The strategy seems to be to dismiss and discredit fact based reporting as the province of the lying, biased "mainstream media". This then means that facts are simply one more piece of noise contesting the airspace with propaganda and bullsh*t. Basically, the truth is whatever the Trump administration wants it to be. And people are bleating about giving Trump "a chance" and "getting over" Hillary's loss. But that's not the point. This has to be challenged before it becomes the new norm but I fear greatly that respectable news organisations are letting themselves be bullied into going along with this agenda. Somewhere Goebbels and Potemkin are raising a toast in admiration of the work of Kevin Bannon.... Regarding the crowds CNN have released a gigapixel photo which appears to contradict the photos showing large gaps in the crowd Gigapixel: The inauguration of Donald Trump You can sort of understand why his administration is being so aggressive towards the press that a week earlier released a slew of unsubstantiated claims that were designed to destroy his reputation. Claims which now seem to be largely forgotten due to lack of evidence. A classic LBJ inspired move it would seem |
Re: And so it begins...
If you think about it, let's say 4 million over all decided to protest across the US. Trump wanted to get the economy moving and create more business activity.
How much do you think they all spent making signs from a hobby store, air fare, Hotel, car rental, gas, bus charter, all those hats they were wearing, food and drink? They beat themselves over hate, yet more money was transacted to businesses within the first 24 hours of his presidency than in any other, due to him just being the President. Figure the average spent has to be between $25-$100.... Times 4 million....Hmmm. @ $25 a pop that's between $100million minimum and over $400 million |
Re: And so it begins...
Originally Posted by Meow
(Post 12158149)
The increases have apparently not been massive and it's part of the costs and thus benefit of society.
Obama created a perfect storm for the "deplorables" to rise up and say "We've had enough". They only have themselves to blame. |
Re: And so it begins...
Originally Posted by Fossildog
(Post 12158234)
Regarding the crowds CNN have released a gigapixel photo which appears to contradict the photos showing large gaps in the crowd
Gigapixel: The inauguration of Donald Trump You can sort of understand why his administration is being so aggressive towards the press that a week earlier released a slew of unsubstantiated claims that were designed to destroy his reputation. Claims which now seem to be largely forgotten due to lack of evidence. A classic LBJ inspired move it would seem |
Re: And so it begins...
Originally Posted by IKnowNothing
(Post 12158240)
more money was transacted to businesses within the first 24 hours of his presidency than in any other, due to him just being the President.
Figure the average spent has to be between $25-$100.... Times 4 million....Hmmm. @ $25 a pop that's between $100million minimum and over $400 million |
Re: And so it begins...
Originally Posted by IKnowNothing
(Post 12158240)
If you think about it, let's say 4 million over all decided to protest across the US. Trump wanted to get the economy moving and create more business activity.
How much do you think they all spent making signs from a hobby store, air fare, Hotel, car rental, gas, bus charter, all those hats they were wearing, food and drink? They beat themselves over hate, yet more money was transacted to businesses within the first 24 hours of his presidency than in any other, due to him just being the President. Figure the average spent has to be between $25-$100.... Times 4 million....Hmmm. @ $25 a pop that's between $100million minimum and over $400 million |
Re: And so it begins...
Originally Posted by Scamp
(Post 12158726)
I'm sure the US was thrilled with the 0.000555% boost this gave their GDP
But anyway, give the man a chance. We should be encouraged that his first foreign invitee is Theresa May: all help in strengthening the perception of GB's position in the Brexit negotiations gratefully received. |
Re: And so it begins...
Originally Posted by tintriangle
(Post 12158763)
That figure takes no account of the multiplier effect.........struggling to remember A level economics from long ago.
But anyway, give the man a chance. We should be encouraged that his first foreign invitee is Theresa May: all help in strengthening the perception of GB's position in the Brexit negotiations gratefully received. Huge positive for the UK. We need all the help we can get at the moment I feel. |
Re: And so it begins...
Originally Posted by IKnowNothing
(Post 12158240)
If you think about it, let's say 4 million over all decided to protest across the US. Trump wanted to get the economy moving and create more business activity.
How much do you think they all spent making signs from a hobby store, air fare, Hotel, car rental, gas, bus charter, all those hats they were wearing, food and drink? They beat themselves over hate, yet more money was transacted to businesses within the first 24 hours of his presidency than in any other, due to him just being the President. Figure the average spent has to be between $25-$100.... Times 4 million....Hmmm. @ $25 a pop that's between $100million minimum and over $400 million |
Re: And so it begins...
Originally Posted by Miss Ann Thrope
(Post 12158770)
A truly Trumplistic analysis....
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Re: And so it begins...
Well, he does have a point, you must admit. It did add a bit of economic stimulus. :sneaky:
Originally Posted by Miss Ann Thrope
(Post 12158770)
A truly Trumplistic analysis....
'Trump's only been president for two days but he's already managed to get a million shrews off their fat arses and start exercising! I love this man!' :tape: |
Re: And so it begins...
Originally Posted by DXBtoDOH
(Post 12158781)
Well, he does have a point, you must admit. It did add a bit of economic stimulus
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Re: And so it begins...
And before anyone gets their knickers in a twist I had no problems with the march. Know a few people who participated both in the US and the one in London. It was important to them, it made them happy, it's part of the democratic world we live in. And it's a good reminder to Trump that he has opposition.
(whether Trump will notice or that it will be forgotten this time next week is a different story). |
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