I think the biggest problem with all of this is that everyone seems more interested in slinging mud and poking holes in statements than actually bringing forward ideas and reasoned points to the risks and benefits.

Either which way, I'm still half and half and very much hope to visit Scotland this summer

You've just described the twin evils of politics and media.

Yeah, I guess so. I can't be the only one bored with aggressive, shouty media proclaiming all sorts of things with a bias one way or the other, sensationalising every trivial detail or 'point won' into some sort of story itself.

Just completely over it.

how do you think rational Scots fell when we know its our future at stake here!

Well surely the two of you could get together and discuss it.

Sorry, I didn't mean Scotland!

I mean the whole media being ***** and shoveling shit thing. Another thread entirely.

As you were, sir.

I'm sure the pair of them would be able to discuss it over a pint.

I'd prefer if it were one each.

Pint singular is so very English....

we're getting the oil, make it a pint and a nip each

Or a 'hauf an' a hauf'....

What about a Ladyboy?

Oh Janet, I love you too-oo-oo...