This probably explains why UKIP is gaining support
#16
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Re: This probably explains why UKIP is gaining support
As others have said it's about perceptions.
All media, regardless of political leanings has to report interesting news - and time and time again it's been shown people want to hear bad news.
There are legitimate debates to be had on religion, immigration, Britain's relationship with the European Union and many other subjects that UKIP seem to be gathering support on. The problem as I see it is that sensational reporting on one hand doesn't give proper appraisals of the situation and condescending reporting of aforementioned reporting (which is basically 'buy our paper, not theirs - they are wrong!/racist/sexist or whatever) doesn't give a better view of reality either.
The logical fallacies in the media are utterly shocking, as are the omissions. That's why it's important to do your own research rather than just trusting the media or politicians alone. Avoiding swift judgements is also a good idea - we do love to put people in labelled boxes don't we?
It's also dangerous to rely on statistics
N.
All media, regardless of political leanings has to report interesting news - and time and time again it's been shown people want to hear bad news.
There are legitimate debates to be had on religion, immigration, Britain's relationship with the European Union and many other subjects that UKIP seem to be gathering support on. The problem as I see it is that sensational reporting on one hand doesn't give proper appraisals of the situation and condescending reporting of aforementioned reporting (which is basically 'buy our paper, not theirs - they are wrong!/racist/sexist or whatever) doesn't give a better view of reality either.
The logical fallacies in the media are utterly shocking, as are the omissions. That's why it's important to do your own research rather than just trusting the media or politicians alone. Avoiding swift judgements is also a good idea - we do love to put people in labelled boxes don't we?
It's also dangerous to rely on statistics
N.
#17
Re: This probably explains why UKIP is gaining support
Thought this article was on point with the media / Farage "issue"
Nigel Farage's relationship with the media is peculiar, fascinating and instructive. The media doesn't know what to do with him and that's both self-evident and part of his appeal. He represents a longing for old certainties; when Britain's isolation was stubbornly glorious, when you could drive home after a couple of lunchtime sharpeners, when Twitter and Tumblr and Michael Crick couldn't make or break a politician's career. As such, he and his cohorts are allowed to stumble slightly when faced with baffling, prissy, nimble modernity. In fact, that apparent lack of slickness might even be part of the nostalgia trip.
http://thequietus.com/articles/15236...ctions-bellend
But then again I'm a leftie and should not be trusted....
Nigel Farage's relationship with the media is peculiar, fascinating and instructive. The media doesn't know what to do with him and that's both self-evident and part of his appeal. He represents a longing for old certainties; when Britain's isolation was stubbornly glorious, when you could drive home after a couple of lunchtime sharpeners, when Twitter and Tumblr and Michael Crick couldn't make or break a politician's career. As such, he and his cohorts are allowed to stumble slightly when faced with baffling, prissy, nimble modernity. In fact, that apparent lack of slickness might even be part of the nostalgia trip.
http://thequietus.com/articles/15236...ctions-bellend
But then again I'm a leftie and should not be trusted....
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Re: This probably explains why UKIP is gaining support
Thought this article was on point with the media / Farage "issue"
Nigel Farage's relationship with the media is peculiar, fascinating and instructive. The media doesn't know what to do with him and that's both self-evident and part of his appeal. He represents a longing for old certainties; when Britain's isolation was stubbornly glorious, when you could drive home after a couple of lunchtime sharpeners, when Twitter and Tumblr and Michael Crick couldn't make or break a politician's career. As such, he and his cohorts are allowed to stumble slightly when faced with baffling, prissy, nimble modernity. In fact, that apparent lack of slickness might even be part of the nostalgia trip.
http://thequietus.com/articles/15236...ctions-bellend
But then again I'm a leftie and should not be trusted....
Nigel Farage's relationship with the media is peculiar, fascinating and instructive. The media doesn't know what to do with him and that's both self-evident and part of his appeal. He represents a longing for old certainties; when Britain's isolation was stubbornly glorious, when you could drive home after a couple of lunchtime sharpeners, when Twitter and Tumblr and Michael Crick couldn't make or break a politician's career. As such, he and his cohorts are allowed to stumble slightly when faced with baffling, prissy, nimble modernity. In fact, that apparent lack of slickness might even be part of the nostalgia trip.
http://thequietus.com/articles/15236...ctions-bellend
But then again I'm a leftie and should not be trusted....
I agree, spot on. Just don't expect rationality from the British public anytime soon.
#19
Re: This probably explains why UKIP is gaining support
I don't expect rationality from the British public, but I do hope for it
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Re: This probably explains why UKIP is gaining support
I didn't see that in the UKIP manifesto.
#23
Re: This probably explains why UKIP is gaining support
Just quality...
This is the "Third Party" in UK politics... dear god....
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...s-9392147.html
This is the "Third Party" in UK politics... dear god....
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...s-9392147.html
#24
Re: This probably explains why UKIP is gaining support
Just quality...
This is the "Third Party" in UK politics... dear god....
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...s-9392147.html
This is the "Third Party" in UK politics... dear god....
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...s-9392147.html
#25
Re: This probably explains why UKIP is gaining support
Just quality...
This is the "Third Party" in UK politics... dear god....
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...s-9392147.html
This is the "Third Party" in UK politics... dear god....
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...s-9392147.html
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Re: This probably explains why UKIP is gaining support
Within the first few days of the start of the Olympics, the Romanians had cleaned up.
They took the lot - the gold, the silver, the bronze, the copper, and the lead.
They took the lot - the gold, the silver, the bronze, the copper, and the lead.