Now I'm no fan of religion but....
#31
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Re: Now I'm no fan of religion but....
That was directed at the self-confessed athiests on the thread who seem to equate some (presumably) well meaning offer of a prayer to being asked if they'd like a kick in the face.
It's a bit like Richard Dawkins. Come on man. Lose the chip on your shoulder about god. Some people believe...you don't. Great book, interesting read...but lets not get obsessed about it.
It's a bit like Richard Dawkins. Come on man. Lose the chip on your shoulder about god. Some people believe...you don't. Great book, interesting read...but lets not get obsessed about it.
Last edited by W10; Feb 2nd 2009 at 2:33 pm.
#32
Re: Now I'm no fan of religion but....
Hmm. i guess you know your chances too aren't good when your healthcare professional suggests prayer as an option....
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Re: Now I'm no fan of religion but....
She should have at least of offered to sacrifice a goat or two..........
#34
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I would find it annoying if a nurse asked me if she could pray with me and probably bring it up with their superiors if they were pushy otherwise I would simply tell them to keep their primitive beliefs to themselves since if prayer works why doesn't god heal amputees? Suspending someone sounds a bit extreme unless they are pushy.
The fact is that staff members are not there to pray with patients, they are there to provide objective medical care and support. If people want to delude themselves with the supernatural that's there business, and has nothing to do with the staff...so I think the staff member in question deserves a verbal warning and a reminder of what a Hippocratic Oath is...and how it doesn't include invoking the supernatural in order to heal people.
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The fact is that staff members are not there to pray with patients, they are there to provide objective medical care and support. If people want to delude themselves with the supernatural that's there business, and has nothing to do with the staff...so I think the staff member in question deserves a verbal warning and a reminder of what a Hippocratic Oath is...and how it doesn't include invoking the supernatural in order to heal people.
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#35
Re: Now I'm no fan of religion but....
Me thinks there's probably been an element of the professional green eyed monster: Agency versus NHS employee from the one who stuck her in....
Why though does it have to go to a Spanish Inquisition????
What's wrong with 'Oi,Florence stop with the Billy Grahams and mind yer on beeswax.End of. '
Instead, a vocational professional is suspended further reducing the level of care to those in need. Bless em()
#36
Re: Now I'm no fan of religion but....
Hah, that's probably nearer the truth of the matter SYB, may have conjured up the aroma of formaldehyde rathere prematurely for the old dear's liking.
Me thinks there's probably been an element of the professional green eyed monster: Agency versus NHS employee from the one who stuck her in....
Why though does it have to go to a Spanish Inquisition????
What's wrong with 'Oi,Florence stop with the Billy Grahams and mind yer on beeswax.End of. '
Instead, a vocational professional is suspended further reducing the level of care to those in need. Bless em()
Me thinks there's probably been an element of the professional green eyed monster: Agency versus NHS employee from the one who stuck her in....
Why though does it have to go to a Spanish Inquisition????
What's wrong with 'Oi,Florence stop with the Billy Grahams and mind yer on beeswax.End of. '
Instead, a vocational professional is suspended further reducing the level of care to those in need. Bless em()
#41
Re: Now I'm no fan of religion but....
How does anyone in the Uk have any time for prayers, complaining, investigations etc etc etc when there's all this football to watch?!?!
#42
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that is the hipocratic oath, there are modern oaths but they are NOT the hipocratic oath. graduates of several older schools of medicine still use the original oath. most now use a version of the decleration of geneva
"The Declaration of Geneva, as currently amended, reads[2]:
At the time of being admitted as a member of the medical profession:
I solemnly pledge to consecrate my life to the service of humanity;
I will give to my teachers the respect and gratitude that is their due;
I will practise my profession with conscience and dignity;
The health of my patient will be my first consideration;
I will respect the secrets that are confided in me, even after the patient has died;
I will maintain by all the means in my power, the honour and the noble traditions of the medical profession;
My colleagues will be my sisters and brothers;
I will not permit considerations of age, disease or disability, creed, ethnic origin, gender, nationality, political affiliation, race, sexual orientation, social standing or any other factor to intervene between my duty and my patient;
I will maintain the utmost respect for human life;
I will not use my medical knowledge to violate human rights and civil liberties, even under threat;
I make these promises solemnly, freely and upon my honour. "
"The Declaration of Geneva, as currently amended, reads[2]:
At the time of being admitted as a member of the medical profession:
I solemnly pledge to consecrate my life to the service of humanity;
I will give to my teachers the respect and gratitude that is their due;
I will practise my profession with conscience and dignity;
The health of my patient will be my first consideration;
I will respect the secrets that are confided in me, even after the patient has died;
I will maintain by all the means in my power, the honour and the noble traditions of the medical profession;
My colleagues will be my sisters and brothers;
I will not permit considerations of age, disease or disability, creed, ethnic origin, gender, nationality, political affiliation, race, sexual orientation, social standing or any other factor to intervene between my duty and my patient;
I will maintain the utmost respect for human life;
I will not use my medical knowledge to violate human rights and civil liberties, even under threat;
I make these promises solemnly, freely and upon my honour. "
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#43
Re: Now I'm no fan of religion but....
And I am certain prayers offered to one version of god in the presence of one who believes in another deity is almost always offensive.
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#45
Re: Now I'm no fan of religion but....
It's hard to ignore and not be bothered by things like that!
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