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Paracletus Nov 18th 2011 11:21 pm

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Had a friend of mine get accused by a girl for rape..he went through hell and lost alot of friends. Turned out he was, as he claimed, innocent all along. But people had been quite horrible to the poor guy, he subsequently decided to leave town and start a fresh. But I'm inclined to agree with alot of people, cut ties.

kittycat1 Nov 18th 2011 11:25 pm

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Ok thanks all- clear its best to walk away from him- thanks for the advice guys

Ronnie no thank god it's not an x.

shiva Nov 19th 2011 2:12 am

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One victim pleads innocent depends on whether you trust them
Four victims plead guilty a ****ing good shoeing and sling your hook matey

seven seas Nov 19th 2011 3:25 am

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pleading guilty doesn't much or does it?

I would always plead innocent, no matter what.

kittycat1 Nov 19th 2011 3:33 am

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SS- he started off pleading innocent but changed his plea and he did plead innocent to two counts of rape which he was let off for.

OriginalSunshine Nov 19th 2011 4:19 am

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Originally Posted by kittycat1 (Post 9742377)
SS- he started off pleading innocent but changed his plea and he did plead innocent to two counts of rape which he was let off for.

bet that makes the victims feel so much better.

one & pleads innocent - benefit of doubt.
four & pleads guilty - friendship stopped.

Ronnie Biggs Nov 19th 2011 4:34 am

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Originally Posted by kittycat1 (Post 9742377)
SS- he started off pleading innocent but changed his plea and he did plead innocent to two counts of rape which he was let off for.

Sounds like you dodged a bullet here. Well, I'm sure with a track record like that he'll get a warm welcome in prison.....

kittycat1 Nov 19th 2011 4:54 am

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original sunshine-

bet that makes the victims feel so much better.
Don't get me wrong I know what he has done is absolutely appauling and disgraceful - even if it had just been one girl it would have been bad enough, I make no excuses fro his behavior, its incredibly hard accepting a friend is a predator and would do such a thing. He was only sentences on Thursday so I'm still trying to get my head around it.

Spugsy Nov 19th 2011 5:05 am

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Originally Posted by kittycat1 (Post 9742453)
original sunshine-

Don't get me wrong I know what he has done is absolutely appauling and disgraceful - even if it had just been one girl it would have been bad enough, I make no excuses fro his behavior, its incredibly hard accepting a friend is a predator and would do such a thing. He was only sentences on Thursday so I'm still trying to get my head around it.

You need to never speak to that person again, I mean come on, for christs sake.

kittycat1 Nov 19th 2011 5:27 am

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Thank you Spugs as always subtle as a sledgehammer.

Pollyana Nov 19th 2011 5:36 am

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Originally Posted by kittycat1 (Post 9741836)
wellmy initial reaction was disbelief and shock as I would never have expected him to behave like this,but he pleaded guilty. My instant reaction is to walkaway from him but as a friend its hard to just leave him when he is going through this- even though he deserves everything.

Are there any mitigating circumstances? I mean "why" - which you must be wondering if he is/was a good friend - depression, stress, what actually drove him to it - and how does he feel about it now?
Not saying there is any real excuse for crimes like this, but there may be more to it than instantly meets the eye.......

Good luck trying to make sense of it, its a horrible position to be in.

Boomhauer Nov 19th 2011 11:53 am

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Originally Posted by kittycat1 (Post 9742377)
SS- he started off pleading innocent but changed his plea and he did plead innocent to two counts of rape which he was let off for.

Walk away. If it was me, I'd have a few choice words to say too.

typical Nov 19th 2011 1:40 pm

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The guy is really going to need friends on the outside. Whether he deserves them in general, or you in particular, is something only you can answer.

Everyone he knows walking away from him might well make him worse when he gets out, not better, but I don't think any one person has any responsibility towards him. If he'd been a great friend to you up to this point, you might decide to try to help him accept what he'd done and move on from it. Mind you, how he could be friends with women while able to do what he did, I don't know.

Bahtatboy Nov 19th 2011 4:38 pm

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Where was he tried? Do you know the details of what he was convicted of?

bobxbob Nov 19th 2011 5:53 pm

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It all depends on what your friendship was based upon and how long you knew him and whether you socialised as a group or as individuals.

If you knew him as a group, then discuss with the others and see how they feel. If he was a really good friend, then one might think there is some moral obligation. What support would he receive from his family members? Where is he incarcerated?

You may find that he might not want to keep the friendship due to the shame he may feel.

If every one of his friends/family abandon him, then there is the possibility that he might move to a new location and could become a repeat offender.

In the end, you will be the best judge as to what you need to do.


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