scrubbedexpat141

What's your best magnet?

Dumbo

Obama will not go down in the annals of history as being a great President, more like an invisible man, but thats better than being infamous.

Romney strikes me as being a nutter and is likely to cause more problems than he solves.

Personally I would rather have four more years of mediocrity than four years of religious fanatiscism. There are already enough leaders in the world suffering from this.

PS. Michelle is also better looking than Ann, but thats a tough call as neither are GILFs.

littlejimmy

It's probably not as close as the mainstream media would have us think. They obviously want to keep interest going. This guy (Nate Silver) has got a good record for prediction, and he thinks Obama is going to win quite comfortably.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/

Also, the bookies are all favouring the incumbent by quite a way. Paddy Power are already paying out on Obama winning.

The only way I can see anything different is if there are some shenanigans with vote stealing/suppression and so on, which GOP are not averse to, apparently. It's quite incredible that they have a state-by-state arrangement for voting rather than a national one and vested interests can get involved. One of Romney's sons supplied voting machines to Ohio, I think I read somewhere.

Anyway, fingers crossed that whichever way it goes, the ridiculous and poisonous patisanship can be brought to and end.

LaLaLayla

I agree.

Millhouse

auzdafluff

Yes, but the US government is different. It's all about checks and balances. It works, when everyone is willing to at least compromise. The GOP controlled house isn't; therefore the system comes down like a ton of bricks.

Brains1983

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-daughter.html

Not a complete arsehole though.

Meow

Miss Anne Thrope

OK, balls on the table:

Obama 303-235 Rmoney - in the electoral college

Popular vote margin 3.5-4.0%
(Nate Silver has it 2.7% with 92% chance of O victory - his model is more conservative than the other statistics guys at PEC and Votamatic as he has to account for the dodgy pollsters like Rasmussen and Gallup with their ludicrous likely voter screen).

That means all the swing states to O except NC and FL.
Rmoney will squeak Florida entirely because of Rethug governor and state legislature voter suppression (Google Florida early voting).

Dems will comfortably hold the Senate in part because of ridiculous Tea Party candidates in states Repugs should have won (Indiana and Missouri) making unbelievably ignorant remarks about rape. The last of the great old school Republican senators, Dick Lugar of Indiana was unseated in the GOP primary and the right wing nut job they replaced him with is going to lose a safe seat. Hopefully the wonderful Tammy Baldwin in Wisconsin will become the first openly gay senator (best is she's from Lyin' Ryan's home state).

Alas Repugs will hold the house with a small net loss in seats though that should include a few of the worst tea party head cases (including hopefully Allen West and maybe even Michele Bachman). This is likely even though the Dems will probably have a significantly higher share of the national vote for the house seats.

Gay marriage is on the ballot in a few states. Should pass in Washington and Minnesota, hopefully so in Maine and Maryland. While polls generally show majority support for this, it has yet to pass by referendum anywhere when actually put to the vote as the wing-nuts can generally mobilise their base out to vote it down (has been passed by state legislatures in a few states).

Miss Anne Thrope

On the question of Obama's stature I think this piece is worthy of your consideration:

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/10...yes-great.html

scrubbedexpat141

Decent.

Miss Anne Thrope

Ohio and the presidency just called for Obama. Looks like Florida will go to O so final score now looks like 332-206 but will be quite a while before the close states are called, though it doesn't matter for the overall result...

scrubbedexpat141

Anyone think all the hype about how close it would/could be was just a waste of everybody in the worlds time?

Theseus

That depends on how much the hype influenced the result. As it was reported that it might be close it may have motivated people to go and vote.

scrubbedexpat141

Good point.

Apparently they will be releasing / reviewing stats around which age groups / race etc voted for who.