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mikewot Aug 28th 2014 12:06 am

Re: Scaremongering?
 

Originally Posted by Bahtatboy (Post 11384720)
Plus, its Thursday, I've still got 2 1/2 days to go till my weekend, I'm off the booze and have given up the fags, and am still having to put up with idiots keeping their kids up till 1 am.

Yeah but apart from that the glass is half full right? Oohh uummm, wait.............

shiva Aug 28th 2014 12:20 am

Re: Scaremongering?
 

Originally Posted by Bahtatboy (Post 11384720)
Not necessarily (and I certainly don't fall into that camp). When it crosses the line from a sense of satisfaction with one own's endeavours to a belief that one has done better than someone else and is therefore in some sense superior, then its wrong (I avoid the word sin because of its religious conotations).

It just jars with me when people in positions of influence (I'm looking at you, teachers) have no qualms about announcing their pride while also extolling Christian virtues on the other.

Plus, its Thursday, I've still got 2 1/2 days to go till my weekend, I'm off the booze and have given up the fags, and am still having to put up with idiots keeping their kids up till 1 am.

You're in a good mood then!

redShark Aug 28th 2014 12:30 am

Re: India - Shambles or Paradise
 
Can I ask the Mod. here why on earth did you create this thread under my name? I didn't start this thread! This amount to identify theft to me.

I have a reputation to maintain, you know!!

mikewot Aug 28th 2014 12:37 am

Re: India - Shambles or Paradise
 

Originally Posted by redShark (Post 11384756)
Can I ask the Mod. here why on earth did you create this thread under my name? I didn't start this thread! This amount to identify theft to me.
I have a reputation to maintain, you know!!

What is the quote in the first post of this thread? Let me help you:

Originally Posted by redShark (Post 11383728)
India is also a democracy, in fact it is called the greatest democracy in the world because of the size of its population. For your information India too can claim most of those points you’ve listed. So why India is not the same as the west? what is the missing link? You would need a great effort to convince me that had the West not been filthy rich, its current situation would’ve been the same as present India, not culture wise but system wise.

This is why, it as known as the logical starting point. Not your logic I know.

Irishbeekeeper Aug 28th 2014 12:51 am

Re: India - Shambles or Paradise
 

Originally Posted by redShark (Post 11384756)
Can I ask the Mod. here why on earth did you create this thread under my name? I didn't start this thread! This amount to identify theft to me.

I have a reputation to maintain, you know!!

You are a funny funny man you know that :D

scot47 Aug 28th 2014 4:16 am

Re: India - Shambles or Paradise
 
So which is more messed up ? India or Pakistan ?

Bipat Aug 28th 2014 4:47 am

Re: India - Shambles or Paradise
 

Originally Posted by scot47 (Post 11385021)
So which is more messed up ? India or Pakistan ?

There is really no comparison between the two countries.

Pakistan

No stable government. Training centre for terrorists. Politicians liable to get shot.

No religious freedom, the very worst of Muslim extremist punishments for non- Muslims. No gays allowed!!!

Education poor, apart from the wealthy. Less than 5% girls educated.
Remember little Malala Yousafzai shot in the head for campaigning for girls education-- read her UN speech, and cry!!!

I could go on---and on--

India
A successful democracy with all the above freedoms.

Literacy between 60-90% for women according to the state.

Yes it has a long way to go to eliminate poverty and other problems.

People can say what they like about government, religion or anything much without fear --and they do, interminably if you watch the TV channels!!

mikewot Aug 28th 2014 8:18 am

Re: India - Shambles or Paradise
 

Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 11385066)
Literacy between 60-90% for women according to the state.

Literacy Rate in India - To know development in a society, Literacy is another proper indicator of economic development. For purpose of census, a person in age limit of seven and above, who can both write and read with understanding in any of the language is considered as a literate in India.

As per Population Census of India 2011, the Literacy rate of India has shown as improvement of almost 9 percent. It has gone up to 74.04% in 2011 from 65.38% in 2001, thus showing an increase of 9 percent in the last 10 years. It consists of male literacy rate 82.14% and female literacy rate is 65.46%. Kerala with 93.9% literacy rate is the top state in India. Lakshadweep and Mizoram are at second and third position with 92.3% and 91.06% literacy rate respectively. Bihar with 63.08% literacy rate is the last in terms of literacy rate in India.

Please do not be selective in quoting your figures.

mikewot Aug 28th 2014 8:22 am

Re: India - Shambles or Paradise
 

Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 11385066)
There is really no comparison between the two countries.

Pakistan

India

One country, actually three if you include Bandgadesh. All 'artificially' created when Ghandi asked it of the Raj prior to Britain pulling out.

Bipat Aug 28th 2014 9:09 am

Re: India - Shambles or Paradise
 

Originally Posted by mikewot (Post 11385289)
Literacy Rate in India - To know development in a society, Literacy is another proper indicator of economic development. For purpose of census, a person in age limit of seven and above, who can both write and read with understanding in any of the language is considered as a literate in India.

As per Population Census of India 2011, the Literacy rate of India has shown as improvement of almost 9 percent. It has gone up to 74.04% in 2011 from 65.38% in 2001, thus showing an increase of 9 percent in the last 10 years. It consists of male literacy rate 82.14% and female literacy rate is 65.46%. Kerala with 93.9% literacy rate is the top state in India. Lakshadweep and Mizoram are at second and third position with 92.3% and 91.06% literacy rate respectively. Bihar with 63.08% literacy rate is the last in terms of literacy rate in India.

Please do not be selective in quoting your figures.

Why did you pick out the 2011 figures then instead of 2014 figures?? The figures are there for all to see.

My figures 60 -90 % according to the state to give a rough idea of the difference with Pakistani girls.
Did you want all 28 states mentioned?

Bipat Aug 28th 2014 9:22 am

Re: India - Shambles or Paradise
 

Originally Posted by mikewot (Post 11385292)
One country, actually three if you include Bandgadesh. All 'artificially' created when Ghandi asked it of the Raj prior to Britain pulling out.

I was answering the poster's question about difference between the two countries.

Bangladesh became independent in 1971 after the civil war between East and West Pakistan. It was not created as such by the British at partition.
Nehru was in charge of the independence movement not Gandhi. In fact Gandhi favoured Jinna.

Irishbeekeeper Aug 29th 2014 9:27 am

Re: India - Shambles or Paradise
 

Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 11385066)
There is really no comparison between the two countries.

Pakistan

No stable government. Training centre for terrorists. Politicians liable to get shot.

No religious freedom, the very worst of Muslim extremist punishments for non- Muslims. No gays allowed!!!

Education poor, apart from the wealthy. Less than 5% girls educated.
Remember little Malala Yousafzai shot in the head for campaigning for girls education-- read her UN speech, and cry!!!

I could go on---and on--

India
A successful democracy with all the above freedoms.

Literacy between 60-90% for women according to the state.

Yes it has a long way to go to eliminate poverty and other problems.

People can say what they like about government, religion or anything much without fear --and they do, interminably if you watch the TV channels!!

So you have been to Pakistan then yeah?

Bipat Aug 29th 2014 9:56 am

Re: India - Shambles or Paradise
 

Originally Posted by Irishbeekeeper (Post 11386491)
So you have been to Pakistan then yeah?

No I haven't, possessing a PIO card in the passport unlikely to get a visa!!!

Is there anything in my answer that is not well known?

Have you watched the speech by given by Malala at the UN?

The Prime Minister of Pakistan is at the moment being investigated for fraud. It is thought the military may be disapproving of his 'friendly' approach to the new Indian Prime Minister (by attending the latter's swearing in).

Osama hidden there, Taliban act from there, is any of this in dispute?

PS- have been to the border though the ceremony is a great show, after the last bus has passes throug the gate into Pakistan. The Pakistani soldiers being younger get their legs higher!!

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=am...w=1366&bih=612

shiva Aug 29th 2014 6:33 pm

Re: India - Shambles or Paradise
 
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Irishbeekeeper Aug 29th 2014 7:00 pm

Re: India - Shambles or Paradise
 

Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 11386509)
No I haven't, possessing a PIO card in the passport unlikely to get a visa!!!

Is there anything in my answer that is not well known?

Have you watched the speech by given by Malala at the UN?

The Prime Minister of Pakistan is at the moment being investigated for fraud. It is thought the military may be disapproving of his 'friendly' approach to the new Indian Prime Minister (by attending the latter's swearing in).

Osama hidden there, Taliban act from there, is any of this in dispute?

PS- have been to the border though the ceremony is a great show, after the last bus has passes throug the gate into Pakistan. The Pakistani soldiers being younger get their legs higher!!

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=am...w=1366&bih=612

no no, I totally understand where you were coming from for calling people out for quoting 'well-known' facts but not having been to your country

http://s898.photobucket.com/user/sli...c427e.gif.html


Originally Posted by shiva (Post 11386786)

HA! too early in the day for this shnizzle mate!
he is right on quite a lot of counts though but me feels we have another sharky look alike amongst us ;)


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