Re: The good old NHS.
 

It doesn't matter about the cross border stuff, because it makes no difference.

That's the case in so many other industries and it doesn't even factor into a noticeable bump in cost. Which is a million miles away from how the medical healthcare system seems to double in the US.

A nice simple summary of healthcare would be:

NHS, a great service and value for money, which has flaws, but majority of people get adequate coverage of care.

US, a terrible service, terrible delivery system, leaving many people without care, but with some great facilities in between.

Re: The good old NHS.
 

That's all well and good, but it doesn't explain that it's still all a load of bullshit.

Re: The good old NHS.
 

You understand sweet **** all, buddy. But I'll leave it there because obviously you're the kind of guy whose backside is penetrated with much more ease than the mind.

Re: The good old NHS.
 

Absolutely right, Bob.

Re: The good old NHS.
 

Why does Desertdubliner begin every post with a personal attack on others ? Is he a psychopath ?

Re: The good old NHS.
 

You're a girl? God forbid you ever get breast cancer, pray to god it happens in the US where you have 97% chance of being alive 5 years later compared to 78% in the UK. And for Bob, he better stay in the US because god forbid prostate cancer he has 19% chance of dying compared to 35% in the UK.

Re: The good old NHS.
 

Next time I'll put it at the end of the post like you did.

Re: The good old NHS.
 

It's not quite as simple as that.

Re: The good old NHS.
 

I know it isn't. The complexity increases or decreases depending whether the stats are going against or in favour of socialised medicine.

Re: The good old NHS.
 

Said the maid to the cook.

I know arguments are pointless on the internet, but sometimes, well, everyone else can be right in saying that you are wrong.

Re: The good old NHS.
 

You keep trotting out crap stats on the birth rate without realising how shit of a argument you're making and you're doing it now.

Sure the US a lot of hospitals will treat babies earlier than other countries and it affects the result. What has a bigger effect though is people not having access to the care or preventative care in the first place, either because their insurance doesn't cover the stuff, they can't afford the co-pays or they just don't have insurance.

That means what would have been found and treated in many other countries gets left till it is to late in the US, or even then, becomes pointless as the person can't afford treatment.

Having great facilities is all well and good, but it doesn't help the people who don't have access to it, nor for the rest of the people who aren't beside a top class facility, because there are just as many shit facilities here as there are in the UK.

You are clearly deluded.

Re: The good old NHS.
 

You see, insulting people and shouting assertions doesn't actually make your assertions true. It just makes them rude.

Re: The good old NHS.
 

You see, again, it's just an insult followed by an assertion delivered at high volume. You are talking to people who actually live in the US and use the system, so it's no good just yelling. That doesn't make a coherent argument.

You might want to look into anger management though, and have your blood pressure checked as well.

Re: The good old NHS.
 

Except, of course, for African American women (who bear a disproportionate load of poverty and, wait for it, lack of access to health care). Their 5-year survival rate is more like 77% in this health-care utopia you imagine the US to be. Let's hope Sally isn't poor, eh?

http://qap.sdsu.edu/education/bcrl/b...acialandethnic

You really shouldn't rely on the Daily Mail for your stats you know.

Re: The good old NHS.
 

Indeed and it's not just the poor.

The nut check scenario.

$25 co-pay to the doc, goes down as a examination and insurance doesn't say how much those are, but previous insurance did and 6 month check up on kid was $350 for 10 mins, plus jabs, so lets say the same here.

$720 for 20 mins at the hospital for a scan, admittedly it was only a 4 hour wait, so not that bad I guess.

$100 for the 5 mins it took the doc to read the results and tell the PCP.

That's almost $1200 and that's without any blood tests or labs, with a personal bill for $120 of that due.

That's with a decent policy too, from a large corporation, which doesn't leave much in the way of burger and fries kind of change out of $500 a month premium.

So lets think a person is on the median $30K a year, probably takes home around $25K if lucky, working 2 odd jobs which doesn't offer medical insurance. Doesn't leave much change after rent, groceries and possibly childcare.

Are they really going to be able to afford a check up bill? No, nor would they be able to afford taking a unpaid day off work either.

What's realistically going to happen if something is found? Grim stuff having to rely on charity, if you can get it. Oh the realities of a free market and a caring insurance healthcare industry.