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Global Corona Death predictions

Old Sep 25th 2020, 4:44 pm
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Originally Posted by Pulaski View Post
You can also be alive and functioning, and not infected with covid-19, which IMO would be better, given that the consequences of carrying the virus for more than about 12 months is currently unknown.
Or you could get hit by a bus tomorrow a perfectly healthy and functioning being.

This whole 'we don't know the long term consequences of having COVID-19' is merely changing the goalposts and giving the hypochondriacs more excuses. People, after all, have lingering effects from bad bouts of the flu that can persist for months and months. My sainted mother, a retired GP in her 70s and not someone indifferent to COVID, even commented that most people crying doom and gloom about hypothetical long term effects have very little idea what they're talking about and even less understanding of the commonalities of lingering effects from other viruses and flus that mean diddly squat in the long run.
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Old Sep 25th 2020, 4:51 pm
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Or you could get hit by a bus tomorrow ....
Where I live I am more likely to be hit be a meteorite.
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Old Sep 25th 2020, 5:56 pm
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Originally Posted by DXBtoDOH View Post
Or you could get hit by a bus tomorrow a perfectly healthy and functioning being.

This whole 'we don't know the long term consequences of having COVID-19' is merely changing the goalposts and giving the hypochondriacs more excuses. People, after all, have lingering effects from bad bouts of the flu that can persist for months and months. My sainted mother, a retired GP in her 70s and not someone indifferent to COVID, even commented that most people crying doom and gloom about hypothetical long term effects have very little idea what they're talking about and even less understanding of the commonalities of lingering effects from other viruses and flus that mean diddly squat in the long run.
Firstly, it's fairly obvious by now that long C19 is not hypothetical by now as there are many example cases already of people suffering from it. And the fact that there are lingering effects in other viruses etc should only make it more acceptable as an idea that there would be with C19.

Secondly, this is a new virus, and everyone is on a steep learning curve, doctors included, although there have been admirable advances in the treatment of C19, vaccine development etc, in just the relatively short time that the virus has been around.

I'm fairly sure that your mother, GBH, is no expert on C19 either.
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Originally Posted by DXBtoDOH View Post
This whole 'we don't know the long term consequences of having COVID-19' is merely changing the goalposts and giving the hypochondriacs more excuses.
When the goal was always "try not to catch covid19", in what sense do you mean that the goalposts are being shifted?
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Old Sep 26th 2020, 4:04 pm
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When the goal was always "try not to catch covid19", in what sense do you mean that the goalposts are being shifted?
I thought we were trying to protect the healthcare system.
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I thought we were trying to protect the healthcare system.
That is true. The flattening of the sombrero. Seems like ages ago now.
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Old Sep 27th 2020, 5:23 am
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Are you talking about UK or UAE? And in either case, is someone in authority saying that they are imposing restrictions in order to avoid more cases of long covid? Or are you talking about Joe Blogs asking for restrictions to continue in order to avoid their perceived risk of getting long covid?
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Old Sep 27th 2020, 6:59 am
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We're in phase 14 now. Milk the system for as long as possible until the government aren't allowed to borrow any more and people have no choice but to go back to work whilst expecting them to not at like bellends.
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Old Sep 27th 2020, 7:58 am
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We're in phase 14 now. Milk the system for as long as possible until the government aren't allowed to borrow any more and people have no choice but to go back to work whilst expecting them to not at like bellends.
solid plan. It's the kids who will pay for it anyway.

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solid plan. It's the kids who will pay for it anyway.
Cripple the economy for decades to protect people who don't want to be protected and claim it's all bullshit. Make the people who don't die from the disease pay for it all.

I've done a full 180 on this. My own Mother claimed she's bought a visor thing because the masks 'suffocate' her. Let them ****ing rot.
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You anti-lockdown lot are worse than the remoaners. Get over it already - it's time to move on.
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Old Sep 27th 2020, 9:43 am
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You anti-lockdown lot are worse than the remoaners. Get over it already - it's time to move on.
Actually, you are not quite right on that assessment. You'll find most people started very positive and pro-lockdown and then lost all faith in it when the following factors emerged:
1. The disease is nowhere near as bad as first thought.
2. The healthcare system did not collapse, in fact for the most part it wasn't even stretched with standby facilities largely unused
3. The economic destruction is mostly born by those that are not largely affected by it (i.e. the young)

It is those that are paranoid about it that are finding new things ... long covid, really what crap is that. You can also get long-flu, long-herpes, long... pretty much any virus

If anyone should be moving on, it is those that are so pro-lockdown that they are wiling to let others suffer economically and for a long period of time. My guess is that such people are in stable well-paid desk jobs and have either no, or very young kids who will probably escape the economic destruction by virtue of age...Or cotton wool wrapped 16 year olds who will be supported by the bank of mum and dad.

No one is stopping you from self-isolating.

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My post above was a parody, but never mind. Again, though, I'm curious if you're talking about the UAE or the UK?
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My post above was a parody, but never mind. Again, though, I'm curious if you're talking about the UAE or the UK?
I see all in both.

U.K. is a special case due to the bias created by the free money. Going to be a tough Christmas for many when they finally realise they don’t have a job.
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Originally Posted by Millhouse View Post
Actually, you are not quite right on that assessment. You'll find most people started very positive and pro-lockdown and then lost all faith in it when the following factors emerged:
1. The disease is nowhere near as bad as first thought.
2. The healthcare system did not collapse, in fact for the most part it wasn't even stretched with standby facilities largely unused
3. The economic destruction is mostly born by those that are not largely affected by it (i.e. the young)

It is those that are paranoid about it that are finding new things ... long covid, really what crap is that. You can also get long-flu, long-herpes, long... pretty much any virus

If anyone should be moving on, it is those that are so pro-lockdown that they are wiling to let others suffer economically and for a long period of time. My guess is that such people are in stable well-paid desk jobs and have either no, or very young kids who will probably escape the economic destruction by virtue of age...Or cotton wool wrapped 16 year olds who will be supported by the bank of mum and dad.

No one is stopping you from self-isolating.
What he said.

I was very much the opposite at the start, was very pro-lockdown. I agree with the points Millhouse makes because they're all valid but would add that we're also in this bizarre fudged limbo now where you can go hunting but you can't have more than X people in your garden, you're a child at 11 and not counted in a number if you're Welsh but in Scotland you're a child at 12 but you have to be counted. It's all a complete shambles in terms of what is and isn't allowed. Weddings have dropped from 30 to 15, despite being the easiest event to contact trace you could imagine.....yet it appears we just 'trust' people to land in the UK and isolate. Utterly mental. People are ****wits and we just insist on making it harder for them to be trusted.

Lots of people can self-isolate and protect themselves if they are worried. Companies have learned that we're capable humans of working remotely if needs be. The UK is probably light years ahead of this place in that mentality.
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