Originally Posted by Jim Smith (Post 8509588)

What about that bar with the strange name Nuttuzzi or something like that(Supposed to be made up from NZ, AUS and SA??) in I believe Al Manzil Hotel in Downtown/Old Town area. It is a sports bar apparently although I have never been there!

Originally Posted by abz_to_dbx (Post 8512096)

Cheers for all the suggestions guys - sounds like a pub crawl is in order. Anyone game??

I think I'll try out Nezesaussi first as it would seem to be the closet to a 'local'. I'll report back.

StublueKPL - yes, I'm a Dons fan, so as appealing as a bar full of rangers fans sounds... You never know if I'm feeling brave, stupid, or drunk I might give it a go.

If anyone could recommend a game of footy anywhere that'd be awesome.

Originally Posted by Inselaffen (Post 8513497)

2 Dons fans on one forum. can't be legal!!

Nezesaussi is a rugby bar so if football clashes with rugby they will show rugby

Originally Posted by Inselaffen (Post 8513497)

2 Dons fans on one forum. can't be legal!!

Nezesaussi is a rugby bar so if football clashes with rugby they will show rugby

Originally Posted by Brains1983 (Post 8512140)

Who's that lying in the corner... Who's that lying....

Originally Posted by The Dean (Post 8514613)

Yea............ now what exactly is the history of the Rangers-Aberdeen hatred (it's far more than rivalry)? A Rangers fan who used to be at the British Embassy in Riyadh reckoned he hated Aberdeen almost as much as he hated Celtic.......

Where did this bad blood come from? :confused:

Originally Posted by abz_to_dbx (Post 8514751)

Now there is a question.

Most reckon it goes back to a game in 1980 when Willie Johnston of rangers stamped on John McMaster's neck, leaving him in need of medical attention. Around this time Fergie was in charge and began instilling the 'everyone's against' mentality that he's perfected at Man U, although at Aberdeen he focused on the bias of the west coast media and the attention they gave the old firm. Fergie of course is no great fan of rangers as although he played for them he was essentially hounded out of the club as he married a catholic.
At the end of the day, Fergie wasnt good enough. If you ask any rangers fan of that era, he will say likewise. My dad is from Govan and friendly with Ferguson, all that crap about his wife is blown out of proportion. And fergie WAS a rangers fan growing up. His father wasnt.
Whilst the football team (two European trophies, league titles and cups) went through a successful period it was also boom time in Aberdeen with the oil industry kicking into high gear, whilst Glasgow was in a state of continuing economic decline. Something the fans latched onto, with various wee ditties about living in slums, being on the dole, stealing hubcaps, and eating rats etc.

Then came the Neil Simpson tackle on Ian Durrant in '88. It's was a poor tackle, although Simpson's always protested that's all it was and there was no malice, that went over the ball and left Durrant with ligament damage that kept him up out for a long period, and many felt he was never the same player. Shame 'cause he's such a nice bloke!!
no malice my A***. It was a disgraceful tackle
Various meaty games, sending offs, things thrown at players from the stands and such have pretty much always followed since. It's a pretty hostile atmosphere, I've not been to ibrox for about 15 years, after getting half bricks, coins and bottles chucked at me, and being threatened by a bunch of 40ish year old huns (i was about 18 at the time), some of whom had their kids with them.
Or a 60 year old guy from my bus getting bottled by Aberdeen casuals in their 20's about 6 years ago

There are pretty good summaries here http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns...679385&cc=4716 and here http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/scotland/1770821.stm

While there's no religious element to the rivalry, there is some nationalistic elements. Aberdeen fans have always tended to be strong followers of the Scottish national team, whilst rangers tend to more interested in disliking Ireland - you'll see 1,000 union jacks and ulster flags in the rangers end for every saltire. Aberdeen will sing Flower of Scotland to rangers God Save the Queen etc.
Every Rangers game you will see a Saltire as well as a Union Flag.
In summary they are wretched mass of unwashed lowlife (see Manchester, May 2008) and an embarrassment to Scotland, if the premiership want them then they can have then 'cause we don't.
and if we weren't there then you could invite the likes of Lisburn and other NOrthern Irish teams to the league as thats the level it would reach
I'm sure a rangers fan (if we can find one who can write) will have an altogether different story.

I should point out there's no great love lose between Aberdeen and Celtic either, or for that matter Aberdeen and Hibs, Hearts, Utd...

Originally Posted by StublueKPL (Post 8515670)

Originally Posted by abz_to_dbx (Post 8516645)

Mate, I didn't travel half way around the world to squabble about Scottish football. Lets be honest were never going to agree on the rights and wrongs of it - but it is what it is.

Everyone has their war stories about things that have happened around the ground and I'm never going to condone or defend violence or some of the OTT aggression that comes with the rivalry - a bit of banter before, during and after fine, but when it gets to the level it all to regularly seems to (on both sides) then a line needs to be drawn.

Originally Posted by The Dean (Post 8516760)

....... all of which is precisely why I am not 'religious' - it's not that I don't believe in God (although I don't), it's that it is used as a convenient excuse for all sorts of other garbage (including violence and, of course, terrorism).

It occurs to me that if people knew (instead of merely 'believed') that God existed, there would be no need for religions, would there?

Originally Posted by abz_to_dbx (Post 8516786)

But, the Aberdeen v's rangers rivalry has nothing to do with religion, it doesn't come into it at all. Aberdeen as a city is predominantly protestant, but that's never been linked to the football club.

Whilst I completely agree with your sentiment, even in a religious vacuum men would still find other reasons to fight each other, and blow each other up. As Stephen Fry said though, "Religion, shit it.".

Originally Posted by abz_to_dbx (Post 8516645)

Mate, I didn't travel half way around the world to squabble about Scottish football. Lets be honest were never going to agree on the rights and wrongs of it - but it is what it is.

Everyone has their war stories about things that have happened around the ground and I'm never going to condone or defend violence or some of the OTT aggression that comes with the rivalry - a bit of banter before, during and after fine, but when it gets to the level it all to regularly seems to (on both sides) then a line needs to be drawn.

Originally Posted by Brains1983 (Post 8518273)

Dirty filthy huns is far more appropriate.

Originally Posted by Brains1983 (Post 8518561)

Aww sweetheart, I'm sorry.


Mutton not my thing, I'm a tim!

Originally Posted by TGFKASE (Post 8523690)

How did I miss this little gem of a thread????

As the other token sheep-shagger on the Bored, I have to agree with what abz-dxb wrote. Pretty much sums it up...

Stand Free.....

Originally Posted by TGFKASE (Post 8523690)

How did I miss this little gem of a thread????

Originally Posted by StublueKPL (Post 8524585)

run free you mean????? :)

Originally Posted by abz_to_dbx (Post 8525005)

It's a wee beauty isn't it. Ask a simple question and get into an argument with a hun, if I didn't know better I'd think I was in a late night taxi rank!

Originally Posted by TGFKASE (Post 8529567)

At least I am aware that I was born under a St Andrews cross....

Born Free...

Originally Posted by StublueKPL (Post 8558350)

check your passport mate. i'll wager my life it doesn't say scottish on it.

Originally Posted by StublueKPL (Post 8558350)

you seem to think that because i am very proud to be british, i am a less proud scot.??? those thoughts make me and other rangers fans laugh.
IMO scotland put the great into great britain and we are proud of our heritage of being a scottish club who are proudly british.

check your passport mate. i'll wager my life it doesn't say scottish on it.

Originally Posted by abz_to_dbx (Post 8558553)

You're right it doesn't, but it should. I'm not sure why a bunch of largely englishmen sitting in London tell me that it can't and that they don't believe that I have the right to decide on whether it ever will. And, at the same time patronise me and my country into believing that Scotland is incapable of being self sufficient and governing itself. Last time I checked lots of countries of similar size, with fewer natural resources managed just fine. And these are the same men who have led the 'great' britian to a huge national debt whilst public services have declined and morale and social standards have become almost non-existent. Great job guys, thanks.

Originally Posted by StublueKPL (Post 8558350)

you seem to think that because i am very proud to be british, i am a less proud scot.??? those thoughts make me and other rangers fans laugh.
IMO scotland put the great into great britain and we are proud of our heritage of being a scottish club who are proudly british.

check your passport mate. i'll wager my life it doesn't say scottish on it.

Originally Posted by TGFKASE (Post 8560696)

This is no fun... you bite too easily....

It may make you and some of your mates laugh, but I have met plenty of your lads who state they are NOT Scottish, they are British..

And its those twats that make the rest of Scotland laugh at Rankers fans...

Originally Posted by StublueKPL (Post 8565402)

Okay then, I wont bite.

We will all just be happy to be Jacobites who hate anything english and the thought of celebrating anything British disgusts us all.

Lets support independence and let Brussels dictate to us more?? Makes sense eh???

The OVERWHELMING majority of Scots vote for a Pro Unionist party. Labour/Tories/Lib Dems etc etc. We dont want independence.

Originally Posted by TGFKASE (Post 8577944)

why is it that the SNP are currently in charge in Holyrood?

Originally Posted by TGFKASE (Post 8577944)

If your last point is correct, why is it that the SNP are currently in charge in Holyrood?

Or is the reply going to be that all these pro-unionists decided not to vote that time....

Im not even going to dignify your first 2 lines with a response....

Originally Posted by Eva (Post 8578884)

Al Whada won the league