scrubbedexpat141

Part of me wants them to keep it so I get to watch a world cup here, plus I think the region probably deserves it for the fans.

Another, slightly larger part of me, wants to see them get completely butt-****ed. They need to learn that they can't act like ***** all the time.

Millhouse

As long as they ain't 'king sheilas, hobos, angus, african'ts or those whinging pomms.

Bongoman2

Agreed, Australia was ready and had a minimal infrastructure requirements to gear up for the tourney. It could still step up to the plate and host without blinking.

Not necessarily. Don't forget some of the biggest audiences are from China and the Americas which is not that unsuitable to Aussie times.

http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affe...keyresults.pdf

Bongoman2

scrubbedexpat141

Disagree slightly. Europe is the money market for WC viewers.

I think we should go back to the old fashioned Europe / Elsewhere / Europe / Elsewhere process for World Cups.

shiraz1

Money is in Europe as has been said, and the time differences make it impractical.
Turkey would be the ideal replacement

co durham boy

Turkey didn't bid though did it .

shiraz1

I thought we were talking about a reopened bid process, not a rerun of a potentially corrupt one.
Aus looks like it paid the same people Qatar did and only managed one vote, that's truly crap.

co durham boy

So by your logic this means it was ok for the Qatari's to pay people off because they got more votes ?

The re-vote will be a re-run with the original bidders . Check out the Sunday Times's next 2-3 weeks stories as they will be leaking more information about the so called allegations.

The whole system is flawed and corrupt but there's an ethos in the Gulf and in Qatar specifically that is whatever you want you can buy it or buy enough influence to get what you want .

shiraz1

If Australia were paying the same people as Qatar as is alleged today then why would they not be chucked out too?
Anyhow there's a lot of reasons why their bid only got one vote and none of them have changed.

Boomhauer

South Korea and Japan hosted the 2002 WC , and they are on about the same time zone as Aus.

Eeyore

Europe coped pretty well with the timings for the 2002 WC. If the 2022 went to Australia, the worst-case scenario would be 1pm matches in the western time zone, which would start at 6am in the UK.

Autonomy

This is a very clear, precise and knowledgeable article... good synopsis:-

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/27656950

So the key question is whether this new evidence provides the smoking gun Qatar's opponents have been waiting for?

While the documents have raised serious questions about Bin Hammam's conduct and his support of the Qatar bid, there is no single email, bank transfer or letter which shows unequivocally that the campaign was directly involved in paying bribes via Bin Hammam.

And Qatar can legitimately argue that since Bin Hammam never held an official role for the bid, anything he may have done to win support for his country was absolutely independent of them.

Part of the problem for Fifa is that while the bid teams were bound by stringent bidding rules, the executive committee members representing bidding nations - such as Bin Hammam - were not subject to those rules.

Even if it is eventually proved that Bin Hammam used his money to secure support for Qatar they could continue to distance themselves from him and argue that they have broken absolutely none of Fifa's guidelines.

But it's worth pointing out here just how limited Garcia's powers are.
He can't order a revote. And he can't even interview Bin Hammam about the latest claims because he has already been banned from football for life.

So no one should expect Garcia to take any swift or decisive action on this leak. In fact his final report is not expected until the autumn and is far more likely to focus on how Fifa can improve their World Cup bidding process in the future.

Bahtatboy

But that's a half-arsed conclusion. It takes two to tango, and if it can be proved that money was given to influence the decision it's not only where it came from that's important, but where it went.

mikewot

Interesting comment in 7 days: http://7daysindubai.com/latest-qatar-allegations-shock/

EVEN before taking into account the latest tawdry allegations concerning the Qatar World Cup, most fans have long assumed that FIFA exists solely to sell the game to the highest bidder, and that as custodians of the ‘Beautiful Game’ it lacked any credibility.
A glance at events in Brazil ahead of this month’s World Cup adds weight to that idea. Thousands continue to protest on the streets of Rio de Janerio, Sao Paulo and across the country at what they see as an extravagant waste of resources put into hosting the tournament. But all Sepp Blatter and Co do is tell them to keep quiet, while they lick their lips at the estimated $4 billion tax-free profit they’ll make from the global showpiece.
Cash comes before custodianship, politics before principles.
Ever since Qatar was surprisingly awarded the right to host the 2022 tournament the stench of corruption has wafted around the shocking decision.
How could a country with a tiny population, no footballing history and, most importantly, a summer climate that risks lives of those doing any serious physical exercise, win the right to stage football’s biggest event?
Well, even before you take in the latest allegations – that as much as $5 million was paid to various officials to influence the 2010 vote in the Gulf state’s favour – the answer seemed kind of obvious: there’s something horrendously wrong with the governance of the game.
A quick look at the cast of characters that has long ruled the roost at FIFA HQ shows a shameful list of men seemingly in it for themselves and the ability to make a quick buck.
Even as early allegations concerning the Qatar victory were swirling around, documents came to light in a Swiss court proving former FIFA president Joao Havelange and long-serving executive committee members Ricardo Texeira of Brazil and Nicolas Leoz of Paraguay had pocketed millions in bribes from selling FIFA’s exclusive marketing, TV and radio rights, and that this was done with Blatter’s knowledge.
To add to that fact – of the 24-men in charge at FIFA before the last World Cup nearly half have been found guilty of or tainted by corruption allegations, or vote swapping when the Qatar decision was made. Of those, four still remain on the committee.
All this has happened on Blatter’s watch.
The result? No contrition and no responsibility taken. Rather, a hint he’ll run for the FIFA presidency for a fifth time next year. Bare-faced cheek doesn’t come close to covering it.
So if the current allegations are found to be true then it’s only because the Qataris have understandably believed corruption, if not outwardly condoned, is simply brushed aside at FIFA, and that the game is simply there to be bought and sold to the highest bidder. The stale climate of corruption means no one should be shocked at the latest twist the tale.
Any sane, half-intelligent person will agree that two things must happen for FIFA to claw back any respectability and credibility: a re-vote on Qatar 2022 and Blatter standing down.