norsk

I don't think there is any way anyone can dispute that we are affecting the ecosystem and planet itself with our behaviour, but whether it will have a longterm effect (ie the death of earth scenario) is a completely different thing.

I'm just not convinced by the whole doomsday thing, however that does not mean that I don't think we should try to take care of the planet as best as we can...

scrubbedexpat141

I met a bloke in a subway once who told me the world would end on the 14th April 2012.

If he is right, I'll be amazed but in fairness to him; he was mighty convincing

norsk

I met a bloke on the jubilee line who told me he was Jesus some years ago. He offered to make my bottle of water into wine which I found quite amusing..

OleJanx

Could be worse, I suppose. He could have offered to turn your bottle of wine into water...

scrubbedexpat141

That could have been me about 10 stops into the Jubilee Line pub crawl....

seven seas

talk to da han' skank ho'

Norm_uk

Amen to that.

We have the alternative - just build more reactors and keep researching existing alternatives like wind, solar and tidal.

N.

Norm_uk

As you said, global temperatures fluctuate naturally over time - we don't know how much is related to human activity. Nothing has been conclusively proven yet everyone treats it as a fact that humans are guilty of destroying the planet...yet we are all still here.

Global warming has become almost cult like and questioning it a crime of heresy in some circles. It's pushed onto school children as a fact (my son's school for example has days devoted to this ). Turning off the lights won't change anything. Building more nuclear reactors and cleaning up existing tech will.

Stopping the pollution and waste in developing nations will help a lot as well.

N.

Brains1983

I guess we'd have to be a little daft not to concede that the climate is changing, however I doubt it's anywhere near as bad as the interweb and press would have you believe. I remember a few years ago in Scotland that they were expecting the summer to be the hottest since 18XX, and my first thought was what was the reason back in 18XX? I guess it goes in cycles.

Norm_uk

The classic strawman.

No one mentioned pumping strange chemicals into a closed system - only doubts on if global warming is caused by humans or not, and how there is a big con by policy makers to push their agenda on people using scare tactics about human impacts on the environment.

Pollution is a huge problem that can be solved with better technology, not switching off lights and eating organic food.

N.

Norm_uk

A lot of these engineer types only offer workable and sensible solutions that aren't based on the cult of Mother Earth...how dare they.

And the biggest investors into 'green' tech tend to be the energy giants, not vegetarians who never wear leather.

N.

Bahtatboy

Nuclear is only clean and cheap in the short term. Long term its disastrous.

Oyibopeppeh

A single medium sized volcanic eruption puts far more CO2 and other nasty chemicals into the atmosphere than mankind does in a year.

norsk

yeah someone should do something about that and leave my v8 alone!

scrubbedexpat141

And the cows. They can't help flatulence.