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Autonomy May 8th 2016 5:39 pm

Re: Desi London Mayor
 
Well that escalated quickly... I post a simple question asking for clarification, go out to work and come back to the usual soup of quasi racism, stereotypical assumptions, general bitchiness, definitions on how many generations of Britishness makes you a true Briton, fermented pomegranate imbibing allegations, denials and rebuttals and whole sets of Barbies getting lobbed from the misspelt pram....

Quite contrary to the views on here, every single person I know in London that has expressed a view, which is not a small amount of people (as I lived there for 12 years), have viewed this result as nothing short of excellent news.

Hey ho.

PS I also agree it's the best result for London

Lightandbitter May 8th 2016 5:51 pm

Re: Desi London Mayor
 

Originally Posted by Autonomy (Post 11942773)
Well that escalated quickly... I post a simple question asking for clarification, go out to work and come back to the usual soup of quasi racism, stereotypical assumptions, general bitchiness, definitions on how many generations of Britishness makes you a true Briton, fermented pomegranate imbibing allegations, denials and rebuttals and whole sets of Barbies getting lobbed from the misspelt pram....

Quite contrary to the views on here, every single person I know in London that has expressed a view, which is not a small amount of people (as I lived there for 12 years), have viewed this result as nothing short of excellent news.

Hey ho.

PS I also agree it's the best result for London

Actually, as a newcomer here, i am not sure anything in this thread really expresses racism, quasi, or not. Sure a couple of dickheads, and you can include me in that if you wish, but outwardly racist i have not read.

Autonomy May 8th 2016 9:40 pm

Re: Desi London Mayor
 

Originally Posted by Lightandbitter (Post 11942780)
Actually, as a newcomer here, i am not sure anything in this thread really expresses racism, quasi, or not. Sure a couple of dickheads, and you can include me in that if you wish, but outwardly racist i have not read.

With a definition of quasi I understand as

"having some resemblance usually by possession of certain attributes" Quasi | Definition of Quasi by Merriam-Webster

or

"used to show that something is almost, but not completely, the thing described" quasi- Meaning in the Cambridge English Dictionary

I still stand by the term I used.

scrubbedexpat141 May 9th 2016 4:56 am

Re: Desi London Mayor
 

Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 11942679)
For accuracy. Just two well known Christian examples in India--George Fernandes-Minister of Defence. Margaret Alva- State Governer of Rajasthan (previously Governer of Uttarakhand). Both now retired.
As I mentioned above Italian born widow-President of the Congress Party.
USA? Not sure what you mean?

I love it when you get involved. :thumbup:

scrubbedexpat141 May 9th 2016 4:58 am

Re: Desi London Mayor
 
It's just the high profile nature that has the panicky folk panicking.

If a bloke called Sadiq Khan is good enough to be a bin man or a council leader or a CEO of a firm or even a doctor say, who has the ability to save ones life...then he can be a ****ing mayor.

iggle May 9th 2016 5:18 am

Re: Desi London Mayor
 

Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 11943075)
It's just the high profile nature that has the panicky folk panicking.

If a bloke called Sadiq Khan is good enough to be a bin man or a council leader or a CEO of a firm or even a doctor say, who has the ability to save ones life...then he can be a ****ing mayor.

Yes but a bin man, or even a doctor can't bend and make changes to the dynamics and policies of the countries capital.

To compare the two shows nativity. This is a really important position in the political spectrum of the UK.

scrubbedexpat141 May 9th 2016 5:28 am

Re: Desi London Mayor
 

Originally Posted by iggle (Post 11943081)
Yes but a bin man, or even a doctor can't bend and make changes to the dynamics and policies of the countries capital.

To compare the two shows nativity. This is a really important position in the political spectrum of the UK.

Comparing the two isn't showing nativity or even naivety.

To discuss how a man can do their job based on their religion is nothing short of blatant racism. Because a role has political influence it should only be done by a 50yr old, fat white bloke?

Millhouse May 9th 2016 5:29 am

Re: Desi London Mayor
 

Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 11943075)
It's just the high profile nature that has the panicky folk panicking.

If a bloke called Sadiq Khan is good enough to be a bin man or a council leader or a CEO of a firm or even a doctor say, who has the ability to save ones life...then he can be a ****ing mayor.

It is one thing to be regulated. It is another to be the regulator.

Millhouse May 9th 2016 5:29 am

Re: Desi London Mayor
 
Good to see his first appointment at the Holocaust memorial.

Mr Khan also spoke to the Chief Rabbi Ephraim Mirvis about the Barnet Council fiasco in which constituents were turned away from the ballot box on Thursday due to an administrative error.

Mr Khan asked: "Did you get your vote in, in the end?"
The rabbi replied: "No I didn't."

You can't write jokes like that.

iggle May 9th 2016 6:54 am

Re: Desi London Mayor
 

Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 11943084)
To discuss how a man can do their job based on their religion is nothing short of blatant racism.

No its not, its stating fact.

A Christian Mayor would have a different agenda to a Muslim, if you believe otherwise then you are putting your head in the sand.

Anyway, i dislike the appointment because he is Labour not because he is Muslim.

Millhouse May 9th 2016 7:09 am

Re: Desi London Mayor
 

Originally Posted by iggle (Post 11943121)
No its not, its stating fact.

A Christian Mayor would have a different agenda to a Muslim, if you believe otherwise then you are putting your head in the sand.

Anyway, i dislike the appointment because he is Labour not because he is Muslim.

I think his struggles with his own party make him sufficiently non-labour.

Then again - haven't all the previous mayors been basically hated by their own party?

Bipat May 9th 2016 7:13 am

Re: Desi London Mayor
 

Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 11943073)
I love it when you get involved. :thumbup:

Thank you Scamp, I'm sure you mean it!:lol:
No comment, but just for interest.

There are sections on policy, police, law and justice.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_Muslims

Bahtatboy May 9th 2016 7:27 am

Re: Desi London Mayor
 
Maybe it'll all turn out ok. He just needs to watch his back: the first time he makes -- or is seen to make -- a decision based on Muslim values rather than British values, then there'll be a firestorm.

Millhouse May 9th 2016 7:53 am

Re: Desi London Mayor
 

Originally Posted by Bahtatboy (Post 11943144)
Maybe it'll all turn out ok. He just needs to watch his back: the first time he makes -- or is seen to make -- a decision based on Muslim values rather than British values, then there'll be a firestorm.

Spot on. I'm sure it will happen, and even if it doesn't then the media will spin it or look for it in some way.

All the best of luck to him - I think he will need it, as the knives are out quite early and he will have an uphill battle at every turn.

Bipat May 9th 2016 8:03 am

Re: Desi London Mayor
 

Originally Posted by Bahtatboy (Post 11943144)
Maybe it'll all turn out ok. He just needs to watch his back: the first time he makes -- or is seen to make -- a decision based on Muslim values rather than British values, then there'll be a firestorm.

Boris Johnson brought Sikh celebrations to City Hall (his wife is of Sikh descent). The sky didn't fall in!!

https://www.london.gov.uk/press-rele...tions-return-2

I agree though that those with anti-Muslim views will be ready to pounce. It is a pity that names can give an indication of religious origins otherwise people's religion would remain a private matter.


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