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Charl01 Jun 4th 2017 6:16 pm

Cutting ties with Qatar
 
Very interesting development.....

Not sure if any of you will be affected (business or personal)


The United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Bahrain announced on Monday they were severing diplomatic ties with Qatar, as tensions escalate in the region over accusations Doha sponsors terrorism.
The UAE has given Qatari diplomats 48 hours to leave the country after Abu Dhabi accused Doha of "supporting, funding and embracing terrorism, extremism and sectarian organizations," state news agency WAM said.

Qatari citizens have been informed by the UAE that they have 14 days to leave, while citizens from Qatar have also been banned from passing through the UAE.

Emiratis are now banned from visiting or even passing by Qatar by all means.

Saudi news agency SPA said Riyadh cut diplomatic ties and closed borders with its neighbor to “protect its national security from the dangers of terrorism and extremism”.

A Saudi official cited by SPA said the country decided to “sever diplomatic and consular ties with Qatar, and to close all land, sea and aviation ports”.

The “decisive” measure was due to “gross violations committed by authorities in Qatar over the past years”, the Saudi statement said.

The UAE followed suit in cutting ties, and Egypt’s foreign ministry also accused Doha of supporting “terrorism” as it announced the severing of diplomatic relations.

The United Arab Emirates has given Qatari diplomats 48 hours to leave the country. Abu Dhabi accuses Doha of "supporting, funding and embracing terrorism, extremism and sectarian organizations," state news agency WAM said.

The statement said all Egyptian ports and airports would be closed to Qatari vessels and planes.

Bahrain’s news agency said the tiny kingdom was cutting ties with Doha over its insistence on “shaking the security and stability of Bahrain and meddling in its affairs”.

The Saudi-led Arab coalition fighting rebels in Yemen’s two-year war meanwhile said it was expelling Qatar over what it said was the country’s support for organizations including Al-Qaeda and the Islamic State group.

Doha has long faced accusations that it is a state sponsor of terror.

It has been criticized in some quarters for its support of rebel groups fighting Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, and Qatari individuals have also been sanctioned by the US Treasury for terror-funding activities.

In recent weeks, Qatar has been accused outright of terror funding in articles which have appeared in the American media.

It was also criticized for providing a sanctuary to former Hamas chief Khaled Meshaal, who earlier this month used his Doha base - where he has lived in exile for several years - to launch a new policy document.

The Afghan Taliban opened an office in Doha in 2013.

Qatar, which will host the 2022 football World Cup, is a member of the US-led coalition to defeat the Islamic State group.

The country is also home to the Al-Udeid airbase, where the US conducts all coalition air operations for the region.
Saudi, Bahrain, Egypt, UAE cut ties with Qatar over ‘terrorism’ | GulfNews.com

jam25mack Jun 4th 2017 6:32 pm

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TheShed Jun 4th 2017 7:07 pm

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Seems like the four are also closing their respective airspaces.

I guess that means that QR planes cannot fly over Saudi, UAE and Egypt?

Saudi, UAE, Bahrain, Egypt cut ties with Qatar over terrorism | GulfNews.com

With the Saudi land border also cut, surely, Qatar will have a problem with supplies quite quickly?

al dente Jun 4th 2017 8:11 pm

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Very interesting times. They are playing hardball, I wonder what demands need to be met, to clear it?

As an aside, many folk are panicking as their flights for the summer are with Qatar Airways.

Irishbeekeeper Jun 4th 2017 8:23 pm

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Well I know one guy who is sh**ing his pants as a lot of his IT stuff is shipped from Jebel Ali to Doha by road on a weekly basis. And he is not the only one by far. I think a LOT of food is shipped by road to Doha isnt it? This was a move designed to hurt economically thats for sure, what with the WC on the table and all.
I was planning a trip after Ramzan to Doha and its usually visa on arrival, I dont know how that would work now. And flight Options? Oman Air?
By the by, I see a diplomatic resolution in the very near future.

DXBtoDOH Jun 4th 2017 8:26 pm

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Most food comes in via Saudi as it disembarks from the ships in either Saudi or Jabel Ali. That's why Qatar supermarkets always look like we're stocked with the scavenging from the holds.

And another key factor for why this can't last long.


Originally Posted by Irishbeekeeper (Post 12266237)
Well I know one guy who is sh**ing his pants as a lot of his IT stuff is shipped from Jebel Ali to Doha by road on a weekly basis. And he is not the only one by far. I think a LOT of food is shipped by road to Doha isnt it? This was a move designed to hurt economically thats for sure, what with the WC on the table and all.
I was planning a trip after Ramzan to Doha and its usually visa on arrival, I dont know how that would work now. And flight Options? Oman Air?
By the by, I see a diplomatic resolution in the very near future.


OriginalSunshine Jun 4th 2017 11:43 pm

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Originally Posted by Irishbeekeeper (Post 12266237)
Well I know one guy who is sh**ing his pants as a lot of his IT stuff is shipped from Jebel Ali to Doha by road on a weekly basis. And he is not the only one by far. I think a LOT of food is shipped by road to Doha isnt it? This was a move designed to hurt economically thats for sure, what with the WC on the table and all.
I was planning a trip after Ramzan to Doha and its usually visa on arrival, I dont know how that would work now. And flight Options? Oman Air?
By the by, I see a diplomatic resolution in the very near future.

Time to get friendly with Iran and Oman.
OmanAir will be able to fly, but will have to be through Iranian airspace.
Supplies shipping will be also in Iranian and Omani waters.

hnd Jun 5th 2017 2:02 am

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So - who controls the Straits of Hormuz?

Johnnyboy11 Jun 5th 2017 4:44 am

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Originally Posted by hnd (Post 12266400)
So - who controls the Straits of Hormuz?

Or more importantly for Qatar, the Suez canal?

littlejimmy Jun 5th 2017 5:52 am

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Isn't this a bit rich coming from their larger neighbour?

Irishbeekeeper Jun 5th 2017 6:03 am

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Originally Posted by littlejimmy (Post 12266605)
larger neighbour

Larger is right! The fast food industry has declared an all out war on this region's local population and are winning at an unimaginable pace. Never have I seen so many young ones with so much on them!! Second only to the septics I assure you!

littlejimmy Jun 5th 2017 6:08 am

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Originally Posted by Irishbeekeeper (Post 12266615)
Larger is right! The fast food industry has declared an all out war on this region's local population and are winning at an unimaginable pace. Never have I seen so many young ones with so much on them!! Second only to the septics I assure you!

:lol: The white cotton manufacturers must be making a killing...

Irishbeekeeper Jun 5th 2017 6:11 am

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Originally Posted by littlejimmy (Post 12266619)
:lol: The white cotton manufacturers must be making a killing...

o aye! as well as the ones providing the abayas' cloth
im in the wrong business ffs!

OriginalSunshine Jun 6th 2017 12:35 am

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Originally Posted by hnd (Post 12266400)
So - who controls the Straits of Hormuz?

Iran and Oman. It's the main reason Oman keeps a strong control on UAE dissidents trying to merge North Oman into the UAE.

Inselaffen Jun 6th 2017 8:20 pm

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Originally Posted by OriginalSunshine (Post 12267199)
Iran and Oman. It's the main reason Oman keeps a strong control on UAE dissidents trying to merge North Oman into the UAE.

and the Yanks

scrubbedexpat141 Jun 6th 2017 8:44 pm

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Originally Posted by Inselaffen (Post 12267839)
and the Yanks

Ooh-Rah

Miss Ann Thrope Jun 6th 2017 8:53 pm

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Even though this is the only subject that every single local that I've spoken to in the last few days wants to talk about (and they all seem to have roughly the same opinion, not unlike those expressed here), clearly this is something that we need to stop talking about forthwith:

Qatari sympathisers to face fine, jail | GulfNews.com

mission Jun 6th 2017 9:29 pm

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Originally Posted by Miss Ann Thrope (Post 12267859)
Even though this is the only subject that every single local that I've spoken to in the last few days wants to talk about (and they all seem to have roughly the same opinion, not unlike those expressed here), clearly this is something that we need to stop talking about forthwith:

Qatari sympathisers to face fine, jail | GulfNews.com

jeeze!:eek:

nottmbantam Jun 6th 2017 11:34 pm

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Originally Posted by OriginalSunshine (Post 12266322)
Time to get friendly with Iran and Oman.
OmanAir will be able to fly, but will have to be through Iranian airspace.
Supplies shipping will be also in Iranian and Omani waters.

Not so sure about that - if Iran start shipping in food and what not, can imagine the Saudi's kicking off about that.

Hope nothing effects Oman - heading there for a few days for Eid hols.

Millhouse Jun 7th 2017 6:14 pm

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Two more: The Union of Comoros, and Mauritania.

alfrombarking Jun 8th 2017 4:47 am

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backstabbing each other

Boomhauer Jun 8th 2017 8:37 am

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News reports are stating that people in Qatar are cleaning out supermarket shelves of food & water . Why water? Doesn't Qatar get most of its potable water from aquifers and its own desalination plants?

Johnnyboy11 Jun 8th 2017 8:26 pm

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Originally Posted by Boomhauer (Post 12269051)
News reports are stating that people in Qatar are cleaning out supermarket shelves of food & water . Why water? Doesn't Qatar get most of its potable water from aquifers and its own desalination plants?

It makes sense to have a store of bottled drinking water. Qatar has a single desalination/ electricity plant (Ras Abu Fontas) and only carries half a day's strategic water storage. The aquifers are used in a few areas for farming, but overabstraction and lack of sanitation have left many contaminated with seawater and sewage. They do produce their own bottled water that's been through an RO plant, and is popular.

The only shortages that I've heard of are milk and fresh chicken, both sourced from Saudi.

DXBtoDOH Jun 8th 2017 8:37 pm

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They can't live without their pumped full of chemicals chickens. Worst chicken in the world. :unsure:


Originally Posted by Johnnyboy11 (Post 12269258)
The only shortages that I've heard of are milk and fresh chicken, both sourced from Saudi.


OriginalSunshine Jun 9th 2017 1:12 am

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Originally Posted by Johnnyboy11 (Post 12269258)
It makes sense to have a store of bottled drinking water. Qatar has a single desalination/ electricity plant (Ras Abu Fontas) and only carries half a day's strategic water storage. The aquifers are used in a few areas for farming, but overabstraction and lack of sanitation have left many contaminated with seawater and sewage. They do produce their own bottled water that's been through an RO plant, and is popular.

The only shortages that I've heard of are milk and fresh chicken, both sourced from Saudi.

You know the fresh Saudi milk comes from powdered New Zealand milk reconstituted?

Johnnyboy11 Jun 9th 2017 3:35 am

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Originally Posted by OriginalSunshine (Post 12269419)
You know the fresh Saudi milk comes from powdered New Zealand milk reconstituted?

The also produce their own milk from dairy cows, on an inductrial scale.

.

Love the Irish accent.

OriginalSunshine Jun 9th 2017 11:14 am

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Originally Posted by Johnnyboy11 (Post 12269505)
The also produce their own milk from dairy cows, on an inductrial scale.

See here.

Love the Irish accent.

Great video, thank you. My understanding was that the reconstituted milk was made in the summer months when the cows yield obviously dropped due to the heat.

Johnnyboy11 Jun 9th 2017 7:30 pm

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Fresh milk back on the shelves today, all the way from Turkey:thumbsup:

Still no fresh chicken:(

nottmbantam Jun 9th 2017 7:48 pm

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Just realised. I haven't bought milk for weeks. Never use the stuff. Nasty.

OriginalSunshine Jun 9th 2017 9:35 pm

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Originally Posted by Johnnyboy11 (Post 12269897)
Fresh milk back on the shelves today, all the way from Turkey:thumbsup:

Still no fresh chicken:(

Big chicken factories in Jordan and Oman. It will arrive.

Johnnyboy11 Jun 10th 2017 12:15 am

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Originally Posted by OriginalSunshine (Post 12269947)
Big chicken factories in Jordan and Oman. It will arrive.

But will it be pumped full of the same chems? My hands are starting to shake from the withdrawl...

OriginalSunshine Jun 10th 2017 12:19 am

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Originally Posted by Johnnyboy11 (Post 12269995)
But will it be pumped full of the same chems? My hands are starting to shake from the withdrawl...

Almost certainly 😅

carcajou Jun 10th 2017 12:42 am

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Where are the oranges from? They mark of authenticity is when orange colouring rubs off on your hands after handling them at the supermarket.

scot47 Jun 10th 2017 6:03 am

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From Kolkhoz Number 27 in the Islamic Republic of Uzbekistan.

Incidentally has no one else noticed that we have lost "The Great Game" and the bearded loonies are now running Central Asia ?

Irishbeekeeper Jun 22nd 2017 11:42 pm

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So I dont think this is going away anytime soon.

Qatar row: Arab states send list of steep demands - BBC News

Anyone been to Doha via other airlines yet?

martinbkk Jun 23rd 2017 4:49 pm

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Prices here do seem to be rising, albeit not too rapidly. My regular DOH-BKK-DOH flight has increased in price by about 20% though. No doubt on the reduced competition.

Inselaffen Jun 24th 2017 5:14 pm

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Pity expelling Keys and Gray isn't on the list.

Johnnyboy11 Jul 3rd 2017 12:46 am

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Do you guys reckon it is safe to return to work in Qatar, or is it better to keep out until the ongoing spat is resolved. I'm worried about things deteriorating and potentially being stuck there.

I've left a couple of shabby suits in my apartment, not much else, and the Sunny rental car is off hire :)

What to do?

al dente Jul 3rd 2017 12:51 am

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We have friends there and they are very much adopting an all is well approach.

Dubaiexile Jul 3rd 2017 4:04 am

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I had an enquiry for air lifting fruit and veg from the US to there yesterday!


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