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The Brexit; Are you in or out?
Jun 12th 2016, 8:07 am
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Re: The Brexit; Are you in or out?
Well despite being pro-Brexit, should my voting papers ever actually show up, I might actually switch my vote to remain <shudders>.
I'm unlikely to work in the UK ever again, and I intend to retire in Southern Europe. So, I'm coming to the conclusion that it's in my own self interest for remain - even if my heart and brain is firmly telling me otherwise.
Viva la europe!
I'm unlikely to work in the UK ever again, and I intend to retire in Southern Europe. So, I'm coming to the conclusion that it's in my own self interest for remain - even if my heart and brain is firmly telling me otherwise.
Viva la europe!
I'm seeing a boat load more votes to leave being touted on my facebook feed though.
Jun 12th 2016, 9:13 am
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Re: The Brexit; Are you in or out?
Plenty of Brits lived in Europe before the right to movement came into effect. My dad's aunt and uncle retired to southern France in the mid 1980s and they had some type of investor or property owner visa. As long as you can show you're not dependent on the state, self-employed or have sufficient net-worth, it was always fairly easy to move to various popular European countries.
Jun 12th 2016, 9:34 am
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Re: The Brexit; Are you in or out?
Plenty of Brits lived in Europe before the right to movement came into effect. My dad's aunt and uncle retired to southern France in the mid 1980s and they had some type of investor or property owner visa. As long as you can show you're not dependent on the state, self-employed or have sufficient net-worth, it was always fairly easy to move to various popular European countries.
Jun 13th 2016, 6:53 am
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Jun 13th 2016, 7:05 am
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Re: The Brexit; Are you in or out?
mine are all Leave... then again, they represent a sample of people that includes builders, postmen, NHS employees etc.
What I like most, is those likely to be most affected by any potential negative affects of a leave vote are the very ones voting for it.
I'm really changing my opinions on it - dunno why (other than my Marbella retirement plans).
Jun 13th 2016, 7:12 am
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Re: The Brexit; Are you in or out?
My feed is full of people who wish to remain. I am also an innie not an outie.
Jun 13th 2016, 7:12 am
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Jun 13th 2016, 7:17 am
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Re: The Brexit; Are you in or out?
My plan is to dust off the accountancy qualifications and do tax returns for British expats - for fees that will basically keep me in beer money.
Jun 13th 2016, 7:31 am
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Re: The Brexit; Are you in or out?
My FB has turned into remain, though the polls say exit is in the lead.
I think the remain are getting desperate, and therefore a bit more passionate. I don't think the rioting in the Euro's and the shootings will help the remain vote in any way.
TOUCHWOOD THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN - but any form of terrorist incident in Europe in the next 10days would swing the vote
I think the remain are getting desperate, and therefore a bit more passionate. I don't think the rioting in the Euro's and the shootings will help the remain vote in any way.
TOUCHWOOD THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN - but any form of terrorist incident in Europe in the next 10days would swing the vote
Jun 13th 2016, 7:39 am
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Re: The Brexit; Are you in or out?
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Jun 13th 2016, 7:46 am
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Re: The Brexit; Are you in or out?
Out. I could list the myriad reasons but in the end, it just feels so good to screw over the Jocks. 
Jun 13th 2016, 10:32 am
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Re: The Brexit; Are you in or out?
Plenty of Brits lived in Europe before the right to movement came into effect. My dad's aunt and uncle retired to southern France in the mid 1980s and they had some type of investor or property owner visa. As long as you can show you're not dependent on the state, self-employed or have sufficient net-worth, it was always fairly easy to move to various popular European countries.
I moved to Portugal and work self employed as a software developer. I could not move to Canada or the US or Australia like this, without going through a long and expensive visa process with medicals, assessments, validate qualifications, etc. In the EU, it's simple and quick. I didn't have to apply for anything before arriving, just book tickets and jump on a plane. We also get full access to local services like healthcare, schools, and my wife (non-EU) is allowed to work.
Back in the 90s, I got my first proper job after graduating in engineering in Germany. I would never have qualified for a work visa if I was from outside the EU, had no work experience.
I understand this works both ways, but I find it curious how many people seem convinced that leaving the EU will stop many/most european immigrants coming to the UK, but won't have any effect on Brits going the other way. It's almost like people really believe that every Brit who wants to go abroad is highly educated and wealthy and would be welcomed in any country. My brother is both, but he could only go to the US because he married an American. The world is not the same place it was a few decades ago.
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Jun 13th 2016, 10:49 am
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Re: The Brexit; Are you in or out?
Probably worth pointing out that France is, and was then, in the EEC. And so was the UK. Free movement rights for workers is not a new thing, though it has been more clearly reinforced, and self-sufficient people are also explicitly covered by free movement.
I moved to Portugal and work self employed as a software developer. I could not move to Canada or the US or Australia like this, without going through a long and expensive visa process with medicals, assessments, validate qualifications, etc. In the EU, it's simple and quick. I didn't have to apply for anything before arriving, just book tickets and jump on a plane. We also get full access to local services like healthcare, schools, and my wife (non-EU) is allowed to work.
Back in the 90s, I got my first proper job after graduating in engineering in Germany. I would never have qualified for a work visa if I was from outside the EU, had no work experience.
I understand this works both ways, but I find it curious how many people seem convinced that leaving the EU will stop many/most european immigrants coming to the UK, but won't have any effect on Brits going the other way. It's almost like people really believe that every Brit who wants to go abroad is highly educated and wealthy and would be welcomed in any country. My brother is both, but he could only go to the US because he married an American. The world is not the same place it was a few decades ago.
I moved to Portugal and work self employed as a software developer. I could not move to Canada or the US or Australia like this, without going through a long and expensive visa process with medicals, assessments, validate qualifications, etc. In the EU, it's simple and quick. I didn't have to apply for anything before arriving, just book tickets and jump on a plane. We also get full access to local services like healthcare, schools, and my wife (non-EU) is allowed to work.
Back in the 90s, I got my first proper job after graduating in engineering in Germany. I would never have qualified for a work visa if I was from outside the EU, had no work experience.
I understand this works both ways, but I find it curious how many people seem convinced that leaving the EU will stop many/most european immigrants coming to the UK, but won't have any effect on Brits going the other way. It's almost like people really believe that every Brit who wants to go abroad is highly educated and wealthy and would be welcomed in any country. My brother is both, but he could only go to the US because he married an American. The world is not the same place it was a few decades ago.
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Jun 13th 2016, 11:06 am
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Re: The Brexit; Are you in or out?
Probably worth pointing out that France is, and was then, in the EEC. And so was the UK. Free movement rights for workers is not a new thing, though it has been more clearly reinforced, and self-sufficient people are also explicitly covered by free movement.
I moved to Portugal and work self employed as a software developer. I could not move to Canada or the US or Australia like this, without going through a long and expensive visa process with medicals, assessments, validate qualifications, etc. In the EU, it's simple and quick. I didn't have to apply for anything before arriving, just book tickets and jump on a plane. We also get full access to local services like healthcare, schools, and my wife (non-EU) is allowed to work.
Back in the 90s, I got my first proper job after graduating in engineering in Germany. I would never have qualified for a work visa if I was from outside the EU, had no work experience.
I understand this works both ways, but I find it curious how many people seem convinced that leaving the EU will stop many/most european immigrants coming to the UK, but won't have any effect on Brits going the other way. It's almost like people really believe that every Brit who wants to go abroad is highly educated and wealthy and would be welcomed in any country. My brother is both, but he could only go to the US because he married an American. The world is not the same place it was a few decades ago.
I moved to Portugal and work self employed as a software developer. I could not move to Canada or the US or Australia like this, without going through a long and expensive visa process with medicals, assessments, validate qualifications, etc. In the EU, it's simple and quick. I didn't have to apply for anything before arriving, just book tickets and jump on a plane. We also get full access to local services like healthcare, schools, and my wife (non-EU) is allowed to work.
Back in the 90s, I got my first proper job after graduating in engineering in Germany. I would never have qualified for a work visa if I was from outside the EU, had no work experience.
I understand this works both ways, but I find it curious how many people seem convinced that leaving the EU will stop many/most european immigrants coming to the UK, but won't have any effect on Brits going the other way. It's almost like people really believe that every Brit who wants to go abroad is highly educated and wealthy and would be welcomed in any country. My brother is both, but he could only go to the US because he married an American. The world is not the same place it was a few decades ago.
We just vote for what is best for us, right?