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I think Sarkozy has beat me to it, but he is just a wimpy little Frenchman, I doubt he will do any good unless he takes a huge French Stick.

Bison

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I hate this going to work thing . . I miss out on the all the excitement . . So I missed the post/thread being referred to - however the freedom of speech issue would make me want him unbanned but he is truly annoying with a blinkered view of the world, but he is also somewhat amusing . . . . Unban him for now you can always ban him again later. He'll probably turn up under another name anyway . . . In fact, he's probably voted already :)

N

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I am perfectly aware of that. I know Syrian, Iraqi and even Yemeni Jews. The enemy is never Judaism, the enemy is Zionism.

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You mean you don't spend your working day on BE??? :D

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I do wish you folks would slow down - it will take me ages to read all these threads :D Have just found the thread, he's a prat, ban him.

N

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In that case we can also say that the enemy is not Islam it is fundamentalist muslims. (I dislike the term 'enemy' as it is very aggressive.)


Sadly too few people seem to be able to separate zealots from moderates.


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You get nutters ideas everywhere, but what I don't agree with is when every Muslim militant is classed as a terrorist, not because their acts and circumstance necessarily fit the English language definition but because who their fighting, or who supports the people their fighting. Everyone is entitled to an army, and every army at one time or another has been or is responsible for terrorism, by its actual English language definition not the G W Bush/Fox news definition which naturally filters down.

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Fighting in the name of religion is the biggest hypocrisy in the world.


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Your post actually proves my above post. There is an inherent contradiction with what you said, and this arises from the influence of political and media propaganda and buzz words(yes it happens in the west as-well as mid east, only more intelligently in west)

You say the problem is not with Islam, but with FUNDAMENTALIST Muslims, now think about what those two words actually mean and you will see that your opinion is a contradiction and cannot be true.

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Meow, too right. Whether you believe in God, Allah, Buddah or some wierd elephant (a colleague . . .) I refuse to believe they would want us to fight.

N

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I've heard the elephant likes nothing more than a pie and a pint, while watching 2 people kick 7 bells of sh!t out of each other..

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Yes, you are correct. Extremism is never a good thing. I dont think anyone here can be able to determine who fits in that category. Your terrorist, might be anothers freedom fighter.

"Enemy" might be aggresive to you. To me this seems much more aggressive:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28525691/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7814490.stm

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woooof

So its OK to travel 1000s of miles to another land to fight for your country. But its not OK to unite under religion to fight back. Or its OK to fight to defend your country and unite as Brits/Yanks/Martians when its attacked or oppressed but its not ok to unite under your religion to defend your land.

Let me put it this way. If England and France were disputing in a similar fashion to Palestinians and Israelis. And the English strongly said we have to defend our country, it is our duty to free our land from occupation etc would they be fighting because of their nationality, or will they be fighting because of their circumstance, and will the English thing not just be uniting rallying call to motivate the fighters and give them something symbolic and greater and a greater purpose. Whether it's for your country or religion the psychology is the same, during times of war/conflict people sense of identity greatly increases and its usually one of those two things that will make people feel united. This also serves to make people feel stronger as it gives a sense of belonging to something bigger.

Bottom line, the Western Armies only fight under the banner of their national flag because national identity is a stronger factor and has a significantly higher influence on its population then religion. If the majority of Brits were devoutly Christian and felt a strong sense of Brotherhood do you not think the leaders would use that instead? In the mid east its different and the same, because you had the wars of national identity in the mid 20th century, then when that failed Islam started becoming a unifying factor amongst segments of the population and now their is like a balance and feathered line between the two, this is best shown in Palestine between Hamas and Fatah, remember before 1987 the Palestinians were fighting under the banner of Palestine. Now you have Hamas who have emerged as an Islamic banner, and Fatah who more Palestine banner.

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Of course, anyone voting or posting on this thread is commenting on the actions of moderators and therefore should be banned too......

Much like Israel or any Islamic nation you care to mention, it's a police state...

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