Originally Posted by banter64

Shiva, the bit that I am referring to is the new 70%, this will not be implimented on those who already had the previous salary increases.

I can honestley tell you some of them are paid a fortune for doing nothing but the others are paid peanuts for working their bollocks off- in the UK ( only for example) can you tell me that a trainee cop woudl accept 900GBP per month as salary ? this is the starting salary for a UAE national who was not fortunate enough to have daddy pay for an education outside.

Salaries have not doubled they have just come in line with the market rate, they are still paid below most of the expats here and with very little benefits, there is a serious misconception that UAE national get most things for nothing, that is not the case.

Originally Posted by Ethos83

I think I recognize Eva as the bitter cow from the one time I ventured onto expatwoman. Said some silly things about the Queen versus Mr. Makhtoum himself. Drove home the point of what kind of woman Eva is.

Having spent several wonderful years in Scotland, my conclusion is thus: it is one of the most beautiful places in the world with some of the most bitter people I've encountered. There's a significant drug presence and a very large impoverished underclass in Scotland, which decades of subsidy (from both England and the Scottish government itself) have done little to change.

Are the Scots bitter people, by nature? Do they take it out on the English because it's convenient? Scottish nationalism is understandable to an extent: it's quite natural to take pride in one's country and its achievements, but I find it peculiar that too many Scottish nationalists are too quick to ignore a substantial portion of their country's aristocratic, royalist heritage as it doesn't fit in with the notions of the quasi-socialistic modern day SNP.

Thumbing your nose at lairds and the landowning aristocracy is ok, I suppose, if that's your stuff. But then don't boast about Scottish pride when 90% of Scottish history, past leaders and innovators came out of the Scottish middle and upper classes. Boast about Adam Smith when you vote for leftist political parties? Boast about famous Scottish political philosophers when you consistently vote for a nanny state? Ya get my point?

Most Scots in the past had pretty mediocre lives in dank cottages, eating salted oatmeal and listening to god-fearing pastors on Sunday. These days many Scots live in dank council flats, drink obscene quantities of alcohol and bitch about the English. No wonder why so many of the bright kids emigrate not only to Canada/Australia, but to the south of England as well.

Originally Posted by Ethos83

I think I recognize Eva as the bitter cow from the one time I ventured onto expatwoman. Said some silly things about the Queen versus Mr. Makhtoum himself. Drove home the point of what kind of woman Eva is.

Having spent several wonderful years in Scotland, my conclusion is thus: it is one of the most beautiful places in the world with some of the most bitter people I've encountered. There's a significant drug presence and a very large impoverished underclass in Scotland, which decades of subsidy (from both England and the Scottish government itself) have done little to change.

Are the Scots bitter people, by nature? Do they take it out on the English because it's convenient? Scottish nationalism is understandable to an extent: it's quite natural to take pride in one's country and its achievements, but I find it peculiar that too many Scottish nationalists are too quick to ignore a substantial portion of their country's aristocratic, royalist heritage as it doesn't fit in with the notions of the quasi-socialistic modern day SNP.

Thumbing your nose at lairds and the landowning aristocracy is ok, I suppose, if that's your stuff. But then don't boast about Scottish pride when 90% of Scottish history, past leaders and innovators came out of the Scottish middle and upper classes. Boast about Adam Smith when you vote for leftist political parties? Boast about famous Scottish political philosophers when you consistently vote for a nanny state? Ya get my point?

Most Scots in the past had pretty mediocre lives in dank cottages, eating salted oatmeal and listening to god-fearing pastors on Sunday. These days many Scots live in dank council flats, drink obscene quantities of alcohol and bitch about the English. No wonder why so many of the bright kids emigrate not only to Canada/Australia, but to the south of England as well.

Originally Posted by lionheart

Emiratis, of course...

http://www.gulfnews.com/nation/Government/10301576.html

Originally Posted by Charismatic

How will they balance the books in the long term?

Originally Posted by Squirty Cream

Yep, have to agree - there are many underpaid, from families with no wasta who live in the old 'low cost' housing that is now falling to pieces. Many others are on the waiting list of subsidised housing for which they can wait for years.
The state schooling is sub-standard and the majority of Emirati children attend state schools.
Being a minority in your own country can be quite galling especially for the ones who can't get a job and the unemployment rate is about 6% - high school graduates have a particular problem in finding jobs.

At the end of the day, Britain has pretty much turned its back on it's own and seems in to support every man and his dog and all the weirdest and non-relevent policies as long as they meet the criteria of avoiding any responsibility to the indigenous population of Britain.

Originally Posted by Ethos83

I think I recognize Eva as the bitter cow from the one time I ventured onto expatwoman. Said some silly things about the Queen versus Mr. Makhtoum himself. Drove home the point of what kind of woman Eva is.

Originally Posted by Ethos83

I think I recognize Eva as the bitter cow from the one time I ventured onto expatwoman. Said some silly things about the Queen versus Mr. Makhtoum himself. Drove home the point of what kind of woman Eva is.

Having spent several wonderful years in Scotland, my conclusion is thus: it is one of the most beautiful places in the world with some of the most bitter people I've encountered. There's a significant drug presence and a very large impoverished underclass in Scotland, which decades of subsidy (from both England and the Scottish government itself) have done little to change.

Are the Scots bitter people, by nature? Do they take it out on the English because it's convenient? Scottish nationalism is understandable to an extent: it's quite natural to take pride in one's country and its achievements, but I find it peculiar that too many Scottish nationalists are too quick to ignore a substantial portion of their country's aristocratic, royalist heritage as it doesn't fit in with the notions of the quasi-socialistic modern day SNP.

Thumbing your nose at lairds and the landowning aristocracy is ok, I suppose, if that's your stuff. But then don't boast about Scottish pride when 90% of Scottish history, past leaders and innovators came out of the Scottish middle and upper classes. Boast about Adam Smith when you vote for leftist political parties? Boast about famous Scottish political philosophers when you consistently vote for a nanny state? Ya get my point?

Most Scots in the past had pretty mediocre lives in dank cottages, eating salted oatmeal and listening to god-fearing pastors on Sunday. These days many Scots live in dank council flats, drink obscene quantities of alcohol and bitch about the English. No wonder why so many of the bright kids emigrate not only to Canada/Australia, but to the south of England as well.

Originally Posted by Ethos83

Ah. See I'm not allowed to call people names and post provocative posts but others are?

Brit expat is an odd little world with its own set of rules for those 'in' the magic circle, and those outside.

PS recognised Eva because she has the same name over at the dark side.

Originally Posted by Ethos83

Ah. See I'm not allowed to call people names and post provocative posts but others are?

Brit expat is an odd little world with its own set of rules for those 'in' the magic circle, and those outside.

PS recognised Eva because she has the same name over at the dark side.

Originally Posted by MacScot

That accusation is not warranted and name-calling would suggest you lost debating points with Eva...but, alas, looking at your posts, you didn't even engage in any discussion on that topic.



Yes, there is a significant drug and alcohol problem in Scotland as there is in the North East and North West of England. Why is there such high proverty in Scotland...'tis certainly not a benefit of the Union then !



No, Scots are not bitter people...that's your delusion. You're talking about people with a republican attitude and not nationalists. The SNP is pro-monarchy party and the Queen has been informed that the monarchy will continue in Scotland. She will be known by her correct title though...Elizabeth, Queen of Scots.



Whose thumbing their noses? You must have been mixing in with a republican crowd when you were in Scotland.



You're talking about the middle ages there. Same could be said for other parts of the UK. Ministers not pastors. Why do so many Scots live in council housing, why is the country so poor and why are the northern regions of England so poor...probably weak MPS and a London-centric UK government.

Originally Posted by The Dean

Interesting thought................

If Scotland were to gain full independence from the UK (oh all right - from England, as that's what they really want - if Wales voted to 'stay in' so would Scotland), would there be any need for the SNP?

SNP campaigns for independence, succeeds, then all Scots vote Labour or whatever.............

By the way - why does that idiot Salmond want independence, but within the European Union?? Er.............. moron...................