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Old Jul 3rd 2015 | 10:57 am
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Originally Posted by scot47
Great things about the Old Country ?

Public Libraries
NHS
 
Old Jul 4th 2015 | 7:09 am
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Originally Posted by scot47
Great things about the Old Country ?

Public Libraries
NHS
Public libraries are OK in the UK but nothing special, in my experience. Surprisingly, I'd say that in the US (not a country well known for quality public services) public libraries are better than England. I've no complaint about county library services in Norwich & Norfolk, but they really are not as good as US libraries I use, from impoverished little towns & villages to the great city systems such as Chicago, Boston and NYC ... just to name three big city libraries that I've used.
 
Old Jul 4th 2015 | 7:13 am
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In Wales at least they're closing many of the smaller ones. Do you remember the librRy van that used to come round to the more isolated villages?
 
Old Jul 4th 2015 | 7:59 am
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In Wales at least they're closing many of the smaller ones. Do you remember the librRy van that used to come round to the more isolated villages?
I worked on one for a while back in the mid 1980s in Wiltshire. tt was the only chance many people had to get to a library, especially with kids, and it was freat to see how excited the kids were to get into the van and be able to choose books for themselves. A lovely time in my life that I will never forget.
 
Old Jul 4th 2015 | 9:52 am
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I loved the library van . Time in a library used to be my favorite evening or Saturday morning pastime.

Not too keep on the modern libraries of today. Far too much activity and distraction and not enough hush and books for my liking.

We've not really got a half tidy library where we are. In fact the local community run library, which is funded by donation and grants and is run by volunteers is the better one.
 
Old Jul 4th 2015 | 6:26 pm
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Originally Posted by Pollyana
I worked on one for a while back in the mid 1980s in Wiltshire. tt was the only chance many people had to get to a library, especially with kids, and it was freat to see how excited the kids were to get into the van and be able to choose books for themselves. A lovely time in my life that I will never forget.
Yes, it was a lifeline for me and my sisters before any of us were 10 years old !
In today's atmosphere where little kids aren't able to get to public libraries the return of the library van would be a godsend and who knows perhaps reading and writing skills would improve?
 
Old Jul 4th 2015 | 8:09 pm
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They still have a library van where I live.
 
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Originally Posted by robin1234
Public libraries are OK in the UK but nothing special, in my experience. Surprisingly, I'd say that in the US (not a country well known for quality public services) public libraries are better than England. I've no complaint about county library services in Norwich & Norfolk, but they really are not as good as US libraries I use, from impoverished little towns & villages to the great city systems such as Chicago, Boston and NYC ... just to name three big city libraries that I've used.
I recall being surprised and delighted when I moved to the US at the quality of public libraries. And now the central one I use in SF is superb.
 
Old Jul 6th 2015 | 3:46 pm
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Originally Posted by amideislas
Well, I've been living abroad for so long, I honestly don't personally identify with any particular nationality anymore. We are active in the community, we have close relationships with many nationalities, but yes, most of our closer relationships are with those who subscribe to a 'broader' view.
This is a very enlightened comment. My wife and I too have been living abroad for so long that we don't identify with any particular nationality. Mind you, we have lived (for three years or more, each time) in several countries, and after six or seven years of living in foreign places (we were officially Australians at the time) we sloughed off our patriotism and tribal loyalty and decided we were "expats", who belonged to a notional "expat nation". (We became English ten or eleven years ago, but that hasn't changed anything.)

We have lived for 37 years in this Caribbean Island, and our friends are a broad cross-section of the expat community. Mostly English, but not overwhelmingly so. Wherever we visit, overseas, we instinctively seek out people who are currently or formerly expats. It is usually hard to get on the same wavelength as people who have never lived outside their home countries. Many other permanent expats tell me that.
 
Old Jul 6th 2015 | 10:43 pm
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Originally Posted by Gordon Barlow
This is a very enlightened comment. My wife and I too have been living abroad for so long that we don't identify with any particular nationality. Mind you, we have lived (for three years or more, each time) in several countries, and after six or seven years of living in foreign places (we were officially Australians at the time) we sloughed off our patriotism and tribal loyalty and decided we were "expats", who belonged to a notional "expat nation". (We became English ten or eleven years ago, but that hasn't changed anything.)

We have lived for 37 years in this Caribbean Island, and our friends are a broad cross-section of the expat community. Mostly English, but not overwhelmingly so. Wherever we visit, overseas, we instinctively seek out people who are currently or formerly expats. It is usually hard to get on the same wavelength as people who have never lived outside their home countries. Many other permanent expats tell me that.

With respect you seem to be doing exactly what you say you are not???

Your friends are "expats", "Mostly English", isn't this a 'colonial' attitude--making use of a country for 37 years and only mix with 'your own kind'
If expats to the UK do this they are vehemently condemned for not integrating!!

As DuoPats we belong equally to two countries, in UK most of our friends are British origin and in India we probably don't even see a British or European face for months at a time, unless we happen to travel to a tourist area.

As in above posts I agree libraries and NHS are positive in UK, I would add traffic rules, and ---dare I say supermarkets
 
Old Jul 7th 2015 | 2:50 am
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Originally Posted by Bipat
As DuoPats we belong equally to two countries, in UK most of our friends are British origin and in India we probably don't even see a British or European face for months at a time, unless we happen to travel to a tourist area.
Ah well - much depends on the ratio of expats to natives. Here, expats (from a total of something like a hundred nations) comprise about two thirds of the total population (of 50,000)! I don't think you'd have the same ratio wherever you are in India.

Having said that - wherever we've lived, we've felt a natural inclination to associate with people of the same general culture. In the south of Spain, we didn't mix with the gangsters or the drunks; in London, we tend not to mix with the cock sparrows; and so on. In India, we probably wouldn't find enough in common with natives of the lowest castes. Ours is a personal inclination, of course; everybody probably doesn't feel the same.
 
Old Jul 7th 2015 | 3:25 am
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Originally Posted by Gordon Barlow
Ah well - much depends on the ratio of expats to natives. Here, expats (from a total of something like a hundred nations) comprise about two thirds of the total population (of 50,000)! I don't think you'd have the same ratio wherever you are in India.

Having said that - wherever we've lived, we've felt a natural inclination to associate with people of the same general culture. In the south of Spain, we didn't mix with the gangsters or the drunks; in London, we tend not to mix with the cock sparrows; and so on. In India, we probably wouldn't find enough in common with natives of the lowest castes. Ours is a personal inclination, of course; everybody probably doesn't feel the same.
Casteism is illegal in India. I suppose the word 'class' is more appropriate.
Are you suggesting that we mix only with low class people, gangsters and drunks ??????

India has academics (Nobel prize winners), scientists, surgeons, lawyers, teachers, military people, politicians etc etc. just as anywhere else. Would they not be good enough for you??
60% of the people are termed 'middle class' as are my Indian family, but we happily 'mix' with people of more humble origins.

(I assume your post is a joke).
 
Old Jul 7th 2015 | 3:30 am
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(I assume your post is a joke).
Your optimism is admirable.
 
Old Jul 7th 2015 | 3:37 am
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Casteism is illegal in India. I suppose the word 'class' is more appropriate. Are you suggesting that we mix only with low class people, gangsters and drunks ??????
India has academics (Nobel prize winners), scientists, surgeons, lawyers, teachers, military people, politicians etc etc. just as anywhere else. Would they not be good enough for you?? 60% of the people are termed 'middle class' as are my Indian family, but we happily 'mix' with people of more humble origins..
You are trying to stir up controversy where there is none, by drawing illogical conclusions. Don't be silly. You seem to be way out of your depth. Let it rest.
 
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Originally Posted by Gordon Barlow
You are trying to stir up controversy where there is none, by drawing illogical conclusions. Don't be silly. You seem to be way out of your depth. Let it rest.
In what way "out of my depth", perhaps you could explain? Which conclusions are illogical??
 


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