UK living costs versus Australia costs
Nov 16th 2008, 6:38 am
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If the loss in value is all GB's fault then why not give him the credit for the ridiculous increases in value in the first place.
I remember the house price crash caused by the Tory's incompetence and crookery.....why single out one Labour politician?
Nov 16th 2008, 7:51 am
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IMHO...they are all as bad as one another
Nov 16th 2008, 9:32 am
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I have ignored the last few attempts you make to bring my personal finances into this, and will continue to do so. My money is perfectly safe, thanks very much, because I knew all this was going to happen six months before the BBC started reporting it.
My concern therefore is not personal, but because I am able to see what massive damage is en route due to the effect of devaluing sterling. Imports are going to go through the roof, for one thing. And all the intelligent and sensibvle people you dismiss as idiots over the prats who spent other prople's money are going to get angry and take their money out of their 0% interest accounts and invest their money abroad: even more trouble for British banks.
As for you r comment about a lot of people losing their homes - no one has lost their home because they are not their homes to lose are they? If they borrowed more than they could afford by a wild margin (and these are the people who get their houses repossessed because they took a 40k load out to swan about in a hired BMW) then they deserve to lose the bank's home.
Those who "hoard" money , i.e., sensible savers and not greedy pigs, are now in a position to pay their mortgages off and actually make theier houses their own, for real. Only they can't do that because Gordon Brown has destroyed the value of property in the UK for a generation.
In terms of the unemployed thing, you shouldn't allow the analysis of one particular sector or in this case an individual project (Olympics) to provide you with an overview of the entire economy, which is the UK's case is absolutely screwed beyond all imagination. Id this country has only 3 million unemployed by 2010 then it may count itself truly blessed.
I have ignored the last few attempts you make to bring my personal finances into this, and will continue to do so. My money is perfectly safe, thanks very much, because I knew all this was going to happen six months before the BBC started reporting it.
My concern therefore is not personal, but because I am able to see what massive damage is en route due to the effect of devaluing sterling. Imports are going to go through the roof, for one thing. And all the intelligent and sensibvle people you dismiss as idiots over the prats who spent other prople's money are going to get angry and take their money out of their 0% interest accounts and invest their money abroad: even more trouble for British banks.
As for you r comment about a lot of people losing their homes - no one has lost their home because they are not their homes to lose are they? If they borrowed more than they could afford by a wild margin (and these are the people who get their houses repossessed because they took a 40k load out to swan about in a hired BMW) then they deserve to lose the bank's home.
Those who "hoard" money , i.e., sensible savers and not greedy pigs, are now in a position to pay their mortgages off and actually make theier houses their own, for real. Only they can't do that because Gordon Brown has destroyed the value of property in the UK for a generation.
In terms of the unemployed thing, you shouldn't allow the analysis of one particular sector or in this case an individual project (Olympics) to provide you with an overview of the entire economy, which is the UK's case is absolutely screwed beyond all imagination. Id this country has only 3 million unemployed by 2010 then it may count itself truly blessed.
You obviously need to have a heart to heart with Gordon Brown. Then you need to see if you can get a job with the British press so that you can actively continue to destroy any sense of optimism and faith left in the British public.
Recessions aren't new. I am 49 and have been through 3 in living memory. Things come tumbling down but then they go up again. It's just the way it is.
You just batten down the hatches, tough it out and look forward to brighter days.
Nov 16th 2008, 11:02 am
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It never ceases to amaze me how so many Brits come here expecting it to be a sunnier version of their homeland. This must be a colonial reflex. The reality is Australia is a very different country and differences are getting greater over time. It's pathetic to come here, buy a VW (because that's the car I would have bought in the UK) and then get outraged that it's not as good value for money as some other makes.
Some of these posts are quite dishonest. Claiming, for instance, that a visit to the GP costs $48 and failing to mention you get $26 back from medicare. Better still, if you visit a bulk billing doctor you don't pay at all.
Some of these posts are quite dishonest. Claiming, for instance, that a visit to the GP costs $48 and failing to mention you get $26 back from medicare. Better still, if you visit a bulk billing doctor you don't pay at all.
Nov 16th 2008, 11:10 am
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Nov 16th 2008, 11:14 am
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What about all those non working people in the UK, like stay at home mothers, children, teenagers, elderly, disabled, etc, etc, who don't pay anything because it's a given that they have a right to see a doctor without money being an issue??? The NHS is one of the best health care providers in the while world and it's FREE to many people.
You know what? I'm sick of all those who say I 'm not telling the truth on my sums yet not one of you has posted any figures to prove any different.
Either put your money where you mouth is or just don't bother commenting.
You know what? I'm sick of all those who say I 'm not telling the truth on my sums yet not one of you has posted any figures to prove any different.
Either put your money where you mouth is or just don't bother commenting.
Nov 16th 2008, 11:15 am
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Nov 16th 2008, 7:02 pm
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I remember the house price crash caused by the Tory's incompetence and crookery.....why single out one Labour politician?
I am neutral in this debate and I will not vote for any of the main parties, I just look at the history.
Nov 16th 2008, 7:06 pm
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Applause all round, I'm sure, but in the meantime, I have a right to be dissatisfied, and I will be happy when he is booted out in the late spring of 2010. I will add though, that my contempt for him is reserved very much for the political man, and I bear him no ill will at all, personally. I understand him to be very intelligent and charming, although my wife met him and said he was a bit odd.
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Nov 16th 2008, 7:28 pm
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Well, he is the guy that authorised all your gold to be sold at $200 an ounce just before it jumped to over $1000 an ounce. He is the guy that stole your pension, and he is the guy that gave Britain a bigger deficit than any country in earth but six.
Applause all round, I'm sure, but in the meantime, I have a right to be dissatisfied, and I will be happy when he is booted out in the late spring of 2010. I will add though, that my contempt for him is reserved very much for the political man, and I bear him no ill will at all, personally. I understand him to be very intelligent and charming, although my wife met him and said he was a bit odd.
Applause all round, I'm sure, but in the meantime, I have a right to be dissatisfied, and I will be happy when he is booted out in the late spring of 2010. I will add though, that my contempt for him is reserved very much for the political man, and I bear him no ill will at all, personally. I understand him to be very intelligent and charming, although my wife met him and said he was a bit odd.
Nov 16th 2008, 9:40 pm
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I agree with you, and your standpoint, I argued for a long time that MY financial circumctances in the USA were considerably down on what they would be in the UK. And I was told by many, many people how wrong I was, and how stupid and blind I was for not seeing I was wrong just because you could get 2.1 dollars for a pound. It pissed me off for an even longer time, now, I couldn't give a flying kcuf.
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Nov 16th 2008, 9:49 pm
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Well, he is the guy that authorised all your gold to be sold at $200 an ounce just before it jumped to over $1000 an ounce. He is the guy that stole your pension, and he is the guy that gave Britain a bigger deficit than any country in earth but six.
Applause all round, I'm sure, but in the meantime, I have a right to be dissatisfied, and I will be happy when he is booted out in the late spring of 2010. I will add though, that my contempt for him is reserved very much for the political man, and I bear him no ill will at all, personally. I understand him to be very intelligent and charming, although my wife met him and said he was a bit odd.
Applause all round, I'm sure, but in the meantime, I have a right to be dissatisfied, and I will be happy when he is booted out in the late spring of 2010. I will add though, that my contempt for him is reserved very much for the political man, and I bear him no ill will at all, personally. I understand him to be very intelligent and charming, although my wife met him and said he was a bit odd.
If we all took on the attitude of blame, anger, resentment and fear, we'd all be facing a great deal of difficulty. But, personally, I believe that as long as world governments are now working fast to fix the damage, then we all have to get on board and help this process along. The alternatives aren't worth thinking about.
Britain does not have 3 million unemployed, that's a number that's been inflated by the press. But we haven't got into this situation yet so as they say, the show aint over till the fat lady sings.
You remind me of why living in Britain is so frustrating and this always creates a dilemma for me returning. You are negative and full of doom and gloom as are the media. It's no wonder Britain is enduring such a hard time.
Australia is having just same problems economically but the mood is much more upbeat and optimistic. This in turn is creating a sense of hope and where there is hope, there is progress. People here have faith that their country will ride through the storm and come out OK.
I am dismayed at your attitude and how you belittle and betray your own country and government. GB might not be your choice of leader but he is THE leader of Britain at the moment and I for one would rather back him and help him pull Britain out of the mire than attack him and watch my own country sink.
Nov 16th 2008, 9:51 pm
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It wasnt you I quoted, it was Stu.
I agree with you, and your standpoint, I argued for a long time that MY financial circumctances in the USA were considerably down on what they would be in the UK. And I was told by many, many people how wrong I was, and how stupid and blind I was for not seeing I was wrong just because you could get 2.1 dollars for a pound. It pissed me off for an even longer time, now, I couldn't give a flying kcuf.
I agree with you, and your standpoint, I argued for a long time that MY financial circumctances in the USA were considerably down on what they would be in the UK. And I was told by many, many people how wrong I was, and how stupid and blind I was for not seeing I was wrong just because you could get 2.1 dollars for a pound. It pissed me off for an even longer time, now, I couldn't give a flying kcuf.
Got carried away at the wrong poster. Humble apologies.
Nov 16th 2008, 11:16 pm
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Your negative attitude is what causes a recession. It's based on bitterness, resentfulness and fear. You are making a bad situation worse simply by blaming an easy target and exploiting the current crisis to propel your anger at a situation that most people, while frustrated by it, are dealing with relatively calmly.
If we all took on the attitude of blame, anger, resentment and fear, we'd all be facing a great deal of difficulty. But, personally, I believe that as long as world governments are now working fast to fix the damage, then we all have to get on board and help this process along. The alternatives aren't worth thinking about.
Britain does not have 3 million unemployed, that's a number that's been inflated by the press. But we haven't got into this situation yet so as they say, the show aint over till the fat lady sings.
You remind me of why living in Britain is so frustrating and this always creates a dilemma for me returning. You are negative and full of doom and gloom as are the media. It's no wonder Britain is enduring such a hard time.
Australia is having just same problems economically but the mood is much more upbeat and optimistic. This in turn is creating a sense of hope and where there is hope, there is progress. People here have faith that their country will ride through the storm and come out OK.
I am dismayed at your attitude and how you belittle and betray your own country and government. GB might not be your choice of leader but he is THE leader of Britain at the moment and I for one would rather back him and help him pull Britain out of the mire than attack him and watch my own country sink.
If we all took on the attitude of blame, anger, resentment and fear, we'd all be facing a great deal of difficulty. But, personally, I believe that as long as world governments are now working fast to fix the damage, then we all have to get on board and help this process along. The alternatives aren't worth thinking about.
Britain does not have 3 million unemployed, that's a number that's been inflated by the press. But we haven't got into this situation yet so as they say, the show aint over till the fat lady sings.
You remind me of why living in Britain is so frustrating and this always creates a dilemma for me returning. You are negative and full of doom and gloom as are the media. It's no wonder Britain is enduring such a hard time.
Australia is having just same problems economically but the mood is much more upbeat and optimistic. This in turn is creating a sense of hope and where there is hope, there is progress. People here have faith that their country will ride through the storm and come out OK.
I am dismayed at your attitude and how you belittle and betray your own country and government. GB might not be your choice of leader but he is THE leader of Britain at the moment and I for one would rather back him and help him pull Britain out of the mire than attack him and watch my own country sink.
Nov 17th 2008, 9:25 am
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Wrong. Mismanagement by government and greed causes recession. People who think you can "talk your way" into a recession know nothing about economics.
Governments are working hard to save a debt-based global economy based on a fractional reserve banking system which represents the interests of the wealthy and leaves the bottom of society struggling for air.
Wrong again. This figure comes from the CBI, not the press. They are trying to warn people, but you show that some people simply have their fingers in their ears.
It hasn't hit Australia yet, You are several months behind. When you're losing 15% off house prices in a year watch the cheer disappear.
Despite Labour's best efforts, Britain is still, just, a liberal democracy, and therefore I can criticise the PM if I want to. In this case, supporting the PM is only making things worse, as his are the policies that have destroyed the nation. No true British patriot could support Gordon Brown.
But, personally, I believe that as long as world governments are now working fast to fix the damage, then we all have to get on board and help this process along.
Britain does not have 3 million unemployed, that's a number that's been inflated by the press.
Australia is having just same problems economically but the mood is much more upbeat and optimistic.
I am dismayed at your attitude and how you belittle and betray your own country and government. GB might not be your choice of leader but he is THE leader of Britain at the moment and I for one would rather back him and help him pull Britain out of the mire than attack him and watch my own country