There's one in Palm Springs

They are all over the place in America.

Does that make America "completely crap"?

It is not what makes America "completely crap"

Yep.

Feel free to open a "What makes < insert country here > completely crap thread." anywhere on the forum..........


.........and I'll still have the same opinion of the bloody eyesores.

No need to......this thread will do nicely thank you

I don't like the look of wind-farms. I don't like the look of new housing estates either. But I accept that both are necessary because we need non-carbon sources of power and we need to deal with the housing shortage.

I don't dislike the appearance of wind-farms either, or at least not as much as some people. In my experience the pale colour of the turbines tends to blend in with the sky.

Individually I think they can be quite beautiful, including this one near my house in Sussex:http://youtu.be/u3mrRP-9DpM

I agree with that.

Each to their own. Not for me though.

Solar power I could live with.

Of course it does. It suits your well documented agenda of disrupting threads. Contributing little of substance, whilst getting perverted pleasure from distracting genuine posters from contributing.

No more replies from me on this thread tonight. I refuse to bite.

I don't mind solar panels on rooftops, but solar 'farms' with whole fields turned black are horribly ugly. For some reason, presumably their system of subsidies, the Czech Republic countryside is littered with solar farms. IMO they are much more of an eye-sore than wind-farms.

Although I'm in favour of renewable energy, and there is no getting away from the fact that in the UK we have lots of wind to harness, I'm less convinced of the case for solar given our grey skies.

Butter wouldn't melt in your mouth would it?

I tend to agree with Editha that they are not as ugly as people think. They are an element of industrial architecture that will become part of the norm, in the fashion that canals and railways did.

However, they are quite noisy, and the noise rarely stops. All one can do is hope the wind changes direction and blows the noise towards some other poor soul trying to sleep.

We lived five miles from the coastal hills in Northern Spain where literally thousands were installed. At first they were only intrusive on rare occasions. Wwe went back last year, to the same house, and could hardly hear ourselves speak in the garden if the wind was blowing towards us.

Here in France they put half a dozen up just over a mile away three years ago. Exactly the same happened. They were hardly audible at first, but that noise is getting worse every year. It is still not awful as there are only six, but they plan on another twelve despite their location being in breach of all the rules.

It is one situation where I am definitely a NIMBY.

I heard on the radio that solar energy technology has advanced to a level where whole house power consumption can be provided by a few roof panels and also that energy could be provided from solar even in countries that have less advantageous weather conditions. Didn't the UK government have subsidies for installing solar not so long ago.

I'd rather have a few panels in a desert than a field in the countryside though. Rooftops aren't too bad.

Guess I'm a NIMBY too.

By sheer coincidence, I've just notice this link..........

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/spr...nels-roof.html

Yup. Try being on the arse end of the damn things, they're very unpleasant. As a power source, IF they are effective, they are perhaps less ugly then poles and wires,-but they are vile to live near to and some poor sods in country areas now no longer have the peaceful existence of yore, because neighbouring land owners got a nice little packetocash for peppering their land with them.