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Old Mar 25th 2014 | 8:11 am
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Originally Posted by Editha
In the latter context, losing Royal Mail jobs and gaining windfarm jobs is what we want more of.
I wouldn't be so quick to that conclusion, as wind farms are a bit of a white elephant. They promise much, but deliver very little - and kill wildlife as a bonus.
 
Old Mar 25th 2014 | 8:26 am
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Originally Posted by roaringmouse
I wouldn't be so quick to that conclusion, as wind farms are a bit of a white elephant. They promise much, but deliver very little - and kill wildlife as a bonus.
Your link is to a letter in the Halifax Courier from a Dave Hill of the "World Innovation Foundation."

WIF was founded by Dave Hill, who runs a construction company in Halifax. His personal view that wind farms are a white elephant is about as relevant as that of my plumber.
For more information read this article: http://www.nature.com/news/2008/0801...l/451382a.html
 
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Originally Posted by Editha
Your link is to a letter in the Halifax Courier from a Dave Hill of the "World Innovation Foundation."

WIF was founded by Dave Hill, who runs a construction company in Halifax. His personal view that wind farms are a white elephant is about as relevant as that of my plumber.
For more information read this article: http://www.nature.com/news/2008/0801...l/451382a.html
Mmm, a little bit of a nutter it seems As you say no relevance at all.
 
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For those who like the wildlife of the UK, here's an article to start with in regards to wind farms.
 
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Originally Posted by Editha
I don't understand what this bandying of employment news snippets is about. The fact is that notwithstanding loss of jobs here and gaining of some there, the UK's unemployment figure looks very good compared with our continental neighbours, and it isn't much worse than the USA.

The real issue is the fall in wages, the quality of the work created, and the lack of success in rebalancing the UK economy. In the latter context, losing Royal Mail jobs and gaining windfarm jobs is what we want more of.
Agreed. The fact that you see 1,000's of people lining up for 40 supermarket jobs in what I always took to be a fairly affluent area speaks volumes.
 
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For those who like the wildlife of the UK, here's an article to start with in regards to wind farms.
Sorry, but Delingpole is no improvement on Dave HIll. Even the Daily Telegraph has now dropped his blog. The man is an utter joke. And he has no expertise whatsoever on wind farms.

Who are you going to link to next? Nigel Lawson? Christopher Booker? Lord Monckton? Or one of the other clowns?
 
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Originally Posted by Editha
Sorry, but Delingpole is no improvement on Dave HIll. Even the Daily Telegraph has now dropped his blog. The man is an utter joke. And he has no expertise whatsoever on wind farms.

Who are you going to link to next? Nigel Lawson? Christopher Booker? Lord Monckton? Or one of the other clowns?
People who do know something about wildlife on the threat of windfarms:

RSPB
 
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People who do know something about wildlife on the threat of windfarms:

RSPB
Now THAT I can take seriously
 
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People who do know something about wildlife on the threat of windfarms:

RSPB
The RSPB have objected to many wind farms over the years, due to potential or actual bird loss.
 
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Originally Posted by Editha
Who are you going to link to next? Nigel Lawson? Christopher Booker? Lord Monckton? Or one of the other clowns?
Perhaps you should give a pre-approved list. I'm one of the few people who on this forum that gives links as support - as opposed to some who largely just troll with outrageous statements and then ignore any request for a source of their information.
 
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The RSPB have objected to many wind farms over the years, due to potential or actual bird loss.
If you read the article you'll see that they say they object to around 6% of all applications, depending on the site. That doesn't make windfarms 'white elephants' which was your original point.
 
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Originally Posted by Editha
If you read the article you'll see that they say they object to around 6% of all applications, depending on the site. That doesn't make windfarms 'white elephants' which was your original point.
Whether the RSPB object or not has no bearing if a project is a white elephant. It just means that organisation objects probably due to likelihood of bird death - although it does seem they've increased their tolerance level on this aspect more recently.
 
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The RSPB have objected to many wind farms over the years, due to potential or actual bird loss.
Same happens in Australia....birds get killed and organisations object.

Will you be taking that up as an issue if you return?
 
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I think windfarms should be in the "What makes Britain completely crap." thread. I cannot stand the sight of the bloody things.
 
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I think windfarms should be in the "What makes Britain completely crap." thread. I cannot stand the sight of the bloody things.
Don't they have them in many countries now....including the US?
 


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