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Lothianlad Aug 12th 2011 1:59 am

Re: Riots in the UK
 

Originally Posted by fatbrit (Post 9554958)
Thirty years of liberal dogma is the heart of the problem......

Precisely. There is absolutely no need to read the Daily Mail or be influenced by its reportings in any way at all to realise the veracity of the above comment. All you need to do is to study all the various official reports and evidential documents relating to current British social trends resulting from an array of Governmental legislation over those same thirty years or so - and, of course, the absolute requirement to live in the UK itself where you can gain a whole lot of higly relevant information from the people who work on the "coal face", the "front line", so to speak, of education, social welfare, the police and social services, the magisterial and crown courts and the general public at large.

It really was only a matter of time before the events of the last four days or so in urban/metropolitan Britain broke out as graphically as they did.

Britain's most urgent and essential need now is a strong and resilient Government with all the strength, will and resolve to carry out all that is necessary in order to cure the desperate social sickness affecting a huge chunk of British society...the Jeremy Kyle society and its ilk. The boils finally erupted - now drastic measures must be taken to effectively lance them all.

If the Opposition in Parliament at Westminster (or the limp wristed Lib Dem portion of the watered down Coalition) blocks any of them on purely party political grounds then they need incarceration along with all the scumbags now keeping the magistrates and Crown courts working right around the clock seven days a week.

fatbrit Aug 12th 2011 2:07 am

Re: Riots in the UK
 

Originally Posted by Lothianlad (Post 9555032)
Precisely.

I really don't think we'll ever recover from that liberal path Thatcher led us down.

ljaw2002uk Aug 12th 2011 2:36 am

Re: Riots in the UK
 

Originally Posted by Lion in Winter (Post 9554831)
Absolutely. Let's just shoot dead on the street everyone with overstayed visas and improper immigration papers.

Actually yes I agree, we should.

But you miss my point, he ran because he knew he was a law breaker, and thought that was why the police wanted to talk to him. This was in response to a post by Octang Frye: I guess the only people who should fear armed police are wrongdoers, correct? I'm sure Jean Charles de Menezes would beg to differ.

nethead Aug 12th 2011 2:39 am

Re: Riots in the UK
 

Originally Posted by ljaw2002uk (Post 9555105)
Actually yes I agree, we should.

But you miss my point, he ran because he knew he was a law breaker, and thought that was why the police wanted to talk to him. This was in response to a post by Octang Frye: I guess the only people who should fear armed police are wrongdoers, correct? I'm sure Jean Charles de Menezes would beg to differ.

I think you missed the point :blink:

Giantaxe Aug 12th 2011 2:41 am

Re: Riots in the UK
 

Originally Posted by fatbrit (Post 9555048)
I really don't think we'll ever recover from that liberal path Thatcher led us down.

Lol, just about to post that. Thatcher was in power for a third of those 30 years... what a darned liberal pinko she was!

Giantaxe Aug 12th 2011 2:44 am

Re: Riots in the UK
 

Originally Posted by Octang Frye (Post 9554314)
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My main beef is people giving up freedoms for supposed security. It's folly, and you only need a cursory study of the history books to see this, time and again. Also, I don't want to monitored for "my own good".

Don't often agree with you Octang, but you got this 100% correct. It's a lesson that simply hasn't been learned by successive UK governments and is still seen in some of the laughable suggestions that Cameron made in the wake of these riots.

Giantaxe Aug 12th 2011 2:49 am

Re: Riots in the UK
 

Originally Posted by ljaw2002uk (Post 9555105)
Actually yes I agree, we should.

But you miss my point, he ran because he knew he was a law breaker, and thought that was why the police wanted to talk to him. This was in response to a post by Octang Frye: I guess the only people who should fear armed police are wrongdoers, correct? I'm sure Jean Charles de Menezes would beg to differ.

According to this, he was in the country legally:


The court heard how as a person entering Britain from Ireland, he would have had an automatic three-month leave to remain which at the earliest would have run out on 23 July, the day after he was killed.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7048756.stm

ljaw2002uk Aug 12th 2011 3:58 am

Re: Riots in the UK
 

Originally Posted by Giantaxe (Post 9555131)
According to this, he was in the country legally:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7048756.stm

The same article also states:

"A counterfeit stamp found on his passport may only have been added after he entered the UK, Mr Roach said".

Just another lowlife! :D

Giantaxe Aug 12th 2011 4:05 am

Re: Riots in the UK
 

Originally Posted by ljaw2002uk (Post 9555248)
The same article also states:

"A counterfeit stamp found on his passport may only have been added after he entered the UK, Mr Roach said".

Just another lowlife! :D

Indeed. Counterfeit stamp = execution.

Sally Redux Aug 12th 2011 4:05 am

Re: Riots in the UK
 

Originally Posted by ljaw2002uk (Post 9555248)
The same article also states:

"A counterfeit stamp found on his passport may only have been added after he entered the UK, Mr Roach said".

Just another lowlife! :D

To paraphrase Dirty Harry, if you carry on down this path you're going to be executing people for jaywalking.

another bloody yank Aug 12th 2011 4:20 am

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Should the title of this thread be changed?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...s-English.html

scrubbedexpat099 Aug 12th 2011 4:41 am

Re: Riots in the UK
 

Originally Posted by another bloody yank (Post 9555294)
Should the title of this thread be changed?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...s-English.html

Interesting.

As far as I can see whilst there are no doubt English people participating, the majority seem otherwise.

I watched the coverage of the 3 who died in Birmingham.

Multiculturalism at its finest.

Sally Redux Aug 12th 2011 4:46 am

Re: Riots in the UK
 

Originally Posted by Boiler (Post 9555324)
Interesting.

As far as I can see whilst there are no doubt English people participating, the majority seem otherwise.

I watched the coverage of the 3 who died in Birmingham.

Multiculturalism at its finest.

I think they are talking about the location of the riots, referring to "England riots".

You may not be aware that 'people of colour' have been living in the country for generations.

fatbrit Aug 12th 2011 4:47 am

Re: Riots in the UK
 

Originally Posted by Boiler (Post 9555324)
Interesting.

As far as I can see whilst there are no doubt English people participating, the majority seem otherwise.

I watched the coverage of the 3 who died in Birmingham.

Multiculturalism at its finest.

Weird. I can't tell someone's nationality from their picture. Well all except Neds who have ginger bonces if the hood is down.

fatbrit Aug 12th 2011 4:50 am

Re: Riots in the UK
 

Originally Posted by Sally Redux (Post 9555330)
You may not be aware that 'people of colour' have been living in the country for generations.

An interesting opinion on pictures of the rioters from el grauniad: http://www.guardian.co.uk/global/201...allery-rioters


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