Putting Our Side Of The Story
May 9th 2019 | 8:59 am
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From: bute
Putting Our Side Of The Story
Up here in Caledonia, we're getting a bit fed up with all this twisting of the facts. So maybe we can get a few things a bit clear???
1. "It's not fair, you've got free prescriptions, no tuition fees, free personal care and travel for the elderly" - well, here's the thing. We have our own parliament and we decided that's what we'd spend our money on. You on the other hand, decided to vote for Eton. Actually there were other things we wanted to spend money on but we had to spend money on mitigating the effects of the Westminster bedroom tax and setting up foodbanks because of the Eton austerity wheeze - thanks for that.
2. "We subsidise all that extra spending" - welcome to our world. Scottish oil subsidised the failed Thatcherite monetary experiment for the past three decades. That's why Norway has the biggest oil fund in the world and we've got **** all.
3. "You all hate us" - no we don't. Lots of English people were in the YES campaign last year and there are lots of English SNP members. Your continually calling us Jocks, however, is a bit irritating (as is your constant harping on about 1966!!) and your describing the SNP as Nazis is pretty offensive by any measure.
4. "The Scots will hold the UK Parliament to ransom" - how's that going to work exactly? There are currently 650 seats. England has 533 of them (82%). Even if we joined up with the Welsh and the homophobes in the DUP we'd still be out-numbered 5 - 1!!! Anyway, I distinctly remember Cameron last year telling us "don't leave the UK, stay and lead it!". Maybe that was another of those Bullingdon things we just don't get (like cricket).
5. "The SNP brought down a Labour govt. and ushered in years of a Thatcherite govt." Wrong!! First, this was Jim Callaghan - one of the worst PMs ever. Second, actually the Libs were the first to threaten a vote of no confidence when the Lib-Lab pact collapsed. The SNP only threatened one after Labour stitched us up on the 79 devolution referendum - the one where we voted yes but Labour backbenchers fixed the system so we didn't get what we voted for. Actually it was Thatcher who moved the motion. Thirdly, it was 35 years ago (almost as far back as 1966!!!)
6. "The SNP will prop up a weak Labour govt". - actually, this one is true. We would. So pardon us for trying to turn the Labour Party back into a socialist party. Remember that? The party of Keir Hardy? The one that believed in home-rule, and disarmament, and protecting workers rights and stopping the elite from ripping the rest of us off, and erm... oh yeah, socialism - remember that? Sorry about that.
OK - that's it really. Apart from a reassurance that we really don't call you Sassenachs. Hardly anyone in Scotland uses the word (we don't actually say "Och aye the noo" either).
1. "It's not fair, you've got free prescriptions, no tuition fees, free personal care and travel for the elderly" - well, here's the thing. We have our own parliament and we decided that's what we'd spend our money on. You on the other hand, decided to vote for Eton. Actually there were other things we wanted to spend money on but we had to spend money on mitigating the effects of the Westminster bedroom tax and setting up foodbanks because of the Eton austerity wheeze - thanks for that.
2. "We subsidise all that extra spending" - welcome to our world. Scottish oil subsidised the failed Thatcherite monetary experiment for the past three decades. That's why Norway has the biggest oil fund in the world and we've got **** all.
3. "You all hate us" - no we don't. Lots of English people were in the YES campaign last year and there are lots of English SNP members. Your continually calling us Jocks, however, is a bit irritating (as is your constant harping on about 1966!!) and your describing the SNP as Nazis is pretty offensive by any measure.
4. "The Scots will hold the UK Parliament to ransom" - how's that going to work exactly? There are currently 650 seats. England has 533 of them (82%). Even if we joined up with the Welsh and the homophobes in the DUP we'd still be out-numbered 5 - 1!!! Anyway, I distinctly remember Cameron last year telling us "don't leave the UK, stay and lead it!". Maybe that was another of those Bullingdon things we just don't get (like cricket).
5. "The SNP brought down a Labour govt. and ushered in years of a Thatcherite govt." Wrong!! First, this was Jim Callaghan - one of the worst PMs ever. Second, actually the Libs were the first to threaten a vote of no confidence when the Lib-Lab pact collapsed. The SNP only threatened one after Labour stitched us up on the 79 devolution referendum - the one where we voted yes but Labour backbenchers fixed the system so we didn't get what we voted for. Actually it was Thatcher who moved the motion. Thirdly, it was 35 years ago (almost as far back as 1966!!!)
6. "The SNP will prop up a weak Labour govt". - actually, this one is true. We would. So pardon us for trying to turn the Labour Party back into a socialist party. Remember that? The party of Keir Hardy? The one that believed in home-rule, and disarmament, and protecting workers rights and stopping the elite from ripping the rest of us off, and erm... oh yeah, socialism - remember that? Sorry about that.
OK - that's it really. Apart from a reassurance that we really don't call you Sassenachs. Hardly anyone in Scotland uses the word (we don't actually say "Och aye the noo" either).
