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Old Apr 1st 2013 | 12:35 pm
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Oy....pull yerself together matey...Essex girls don't blub.. just cuss a bit, drink a beer and just remember that eventually you will get back to where you need to be!


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You're right. I was forgetting who I was for a minute. Feel better for a good blub though. Now it's time to pull myself up by my white shoe straps, pour myself a beer, turn the music up, throw my handbag into the middle of the living room carpet and dance round it for a while - avoiding the wet spot where the dog chundered.

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You're right. I was forgetting who I was for a minute. Feel better for a good blub though. Now it's time to pull myself up by my white shoe straps, pour myself a beer, turn the music up, throw my handbag into the middle of the living room carpet and dance round it for a while - avoiding the wet spot where the dog chundered.

Thank you xo
Lol! Put down that beer and pour yourself a glass of Lambrini or else the whole cast of The Only Way is Essex might come round and spray you orange - you have been warned ha ha ha!!!
 
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You're right. I was forgetting who I was for a minute. Feel better for a good blub though. Now it's time to pull myself up by my white shoe straps, pour myself a beer, turn the music up, throw my handbag into the middle of the living room carpet and dance round it for a while - avoiding the wet spot where the dog chundered.

Thank you xo
 
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Ok I should be a workin but I just read through your thread so thought I'd chip in!

Well I am so in the same boat as you, I live in the tropics which is incredibly beautiful and everyone thinks I am mad to go home - hmmmm!!!

I work at a single officer station for 178 hours straight its well paid but knackering, due to the money every man and his dog wants my job but, like you, I have no one here and I'm very lonely! I go home to an empty house on my days off and most of my friends just fit me in when ever they have nothing better to do and their partners are away or working. The Aussies are not that friendly IMHO, I have made some friends who are great but my best friend here is a male South African - he's my evil twin and we get up to all sorts of mischief lol! Without him I'd be lost - seriously!

I read back through some of my old threads on here and I must have changed my mind a million times re storage/shipping etc, at one point I was selling my flat in the UK and putting my stuff into storage here. The flat sale fell through, I cried and I then I just had a "ta da!" moment and rang my Mum at 3 in the morning saying "take it off the market, I want to move back in!!!"

I first decided to leave about 18 months ago. I was supposed to return in Dec 2012 then March this year and now I finally have my flight booked for May 27th - at last!!! It took me ages to get here, planning, saving, worrying, crying and stressing but I've had a lot of laughs along the way too! You will get there mate, I promise you. I truly believe that fate always finds a way of taking a hand in things and you end up where you are meant to be. I had a bad bad break up 2 years ago and for ages I thought I was just running away. I stuck it out, got my citizenship and some money behind me and now, 2 years down the line, I see things with a lots more clarity and now I know for certain I am leaving for ME - no one else.

Hang on in there and if you ever feel lonely come on here for a chat, people on here are brilliant, so supportive and helpful and we can all relate to what everyone else is going through. Hope your dog is going be ok and wishing you lots of luck!
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The loneliness of the long distance expat. We do have a lot in common. There are women who would kill for my job. I sell fabric, books, patterns and notions to quilt shops and they think it must be lovely going to all those quilt shops. I like a some of them but most of them I wouldn't go to if I was on a fabric buying mission and there are some back of beyond places that hardly qualify. Every week I get a 30lb box of samples and a lot of them are truly gag worthy and I have to look at them every day. I really want my hobby back.

I'm at that 'I know I want to go so can I just get on with it now please' stage which it seems everyone goes through. I started putting the wheels in motion last year when I [I]thought[I] I wanted to go back and applied for my US citizenship. Got my passport in March so that's all taken care of.

If all goes according to plan, my youngest son will be getting his commission (Royal Navy) in July so I have that as the goal to be back for his passing out parade. He had a big test last week and will get the results in a couple of weeks after his leave. If he passes he will almost certainly pass out in July.

I bought my house through the Affordable Housing programme here and the selling process is different than a market rate home. I have to have it on the open market for 30 days during which time any applicants who qualify for the programme can come and snoop about (and steal my earings and boots, but that's so last week's news) and submit a letter of intent to purchase. On day 31, everyone goes into a lottery, name gets pulled out and they have 24 hours to let me know if they are committed to going under contract. Then they have 30 days to close. It will sell, I'm not worried about that. The market here is hot and this is $100K less than it would be at market rate which makes it an absolute steal. It's a good programme because Boulder is really really really expensive, and it helped me get started on the house buying ladder but it will never appreciate the way a market rate house will and I'm ready to move on. It's time to let someone else have it who needs to get their start.

The 30 days is up on Thursday so I don't have long to wait for that. And I will find out on Friday if the buyer of the adorable house I wanted is going through with the contract. If that house becomes available to me, I may see it as a sign to stay for a couple of years. If it doesn't, I may see it as a sign to go. Or I may just do what the hell I want anyway

So many things up in the air. So many thoughts that just keep going round in circles.

Made an appointment with the vet for tomorrow morning. Nothing more I can do for her til then.
 
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Originally Posted by Cardienscarf
Thanks everyone for all the encouragement. You make me feel like I'm not quite as mad.

So, Friday morning I walked into my pilates class and one of the women who I've become quite friendly with in the last couple of months (only been doing the same class with the same people for about 2 years) asked how my house sale was going etc. I gave her a brief run down of The Plan and she said, "Why don't you go now and leave the sale of your house to the realtor?" So now I have an addition to The Plan:

F. Go directly to England, do not dally.

This is by far and away my favourite (why didn't I think of it?) but - and of course there has to be a but...... if I leave my job while I still have a mortgage to pay it will eat into the money I am saving for the other side of the pond.

I hate having to be practical and sensible. I really want to say 'to hell with all of it' and go but I also don't want to go home broke. I'll have the money from the house sale but I don't want to touch that for living expenses.

Patience really is such a bitch. She is not invited to any of my parties. No jelly and ice cream for her.

Another thing I have to consider is my dog. She is nearly 13 and, until last year, was always in excellent health. But now she has advancing kidney disease I thought we were going to lose her in December but the vet pumped her full of fluids for 2 days to flush out her kidneys and hydrate her and she's been like a new dog. He said it was likely to be months rather than years before she became ill again and she's starting to turn her nose up at her food again which is really not a good sign. I love my dog and I don't ever want her to die and neither do I don't want to sit here waiting for her to die so I can make my move.

And another thing..... not wanting to be a complete and utter downer but this has become such a big part of my life and consideration about anything I do... some of you may know this and some not.... my eldest son's brother in law was killed in the Aurora theater shooting and it is just one thing after another for the family. Today we learned, not really to our surprise as the family has regular contact with the DA, that the DA is seeking the death penalty. My daughter in law sent me the timeline for all the motion deadlines, culminating in the trial starting on 3 Feb 2014 to last 4 months. It won't start then, that's almost a given. How can I leave them? I am a support for them, they know they can count on me. I know there are others who support them as well but after today I just don't know how I can walk away.

I skyped with my family this morning while they were having tea round at my nephew's new flat and I wanted to be there with them so badly. My niece arrived back after 10 years in France and Montreal and my emotions have been off the chart crazy wishing I could go now too.

I read MissBetty's Troppo thread and I have that same feeling of loneliness that so many others expressed. I live on my own, I am a sales rep so travel a lot which means I am in my car on my own, then I go to a hotel room on my own and I come home to being on my own again. I get on well with most of my customers but the amount of time I spend with them is a fraction of the time I spend in the car. Half the time I am driving across Wyoming or Nebraska or Kansas thinking "How the *&$k did I get here?!" Colorado is beautiful and I have seen some amazing things on my travels but I would rather be driving through Scotland or the Midlands or across the Downs.

And now my dog has just thrown up on the carpet. That is so not a good sign. And I'm a blubbering mess.
Miss Betty has already expressed the same sentiments as everyone else here would like to say, but she beat us to it. Hang in there love and just know that we'll be there for you, no matter what you decide, no matter what you are going through. We've all been there, are there, experienced the same emotions and in one way shape or form we've come through the other side. We've seen the light at the end of the tunnel - and it wasn't a train!!!!
 
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Miss Betty has already expressed the same sentiments as everyone else here would like to say, but she beat us to it. Hang in there love and just know that we'll be there for you, no matter what you decide, no matter what you are going through. We've all been there, are there, experienced the same emotions and in one way shape or form we've come through the other side. We've seen the light at the end of the tunnel - and it wasn't a train!!!!
Thank you

I'm not quite ready to see The Light yet but I'm feeling much better today. Weird dreams about youngest son leaving without saying goodbye and the dog wandering off and me not ever knowing what happened to her.

Decided to change my morning routine a bit this morning. If I want something to change, I'd better make it happen myself or it will happen for me and, chances are, I won't like it quite so much.

Dog hasn't eaten her breakfast But she's in good spirits. I'm feeling a bit guilty because part of me is thinking that if her number's coming up soon then I won't treat her because 1) it will cost an arm and a leg and 2) I wouldn't have the worry about whether to ship her to the UK or not. Then I feel mean and I know I'll miss her. She's been a fabulous family pet and a great companion to me since the boys left home. Of course, she's really my youngest son's dog but we all know how that goes
 
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[QUOTE=Cardienscarf;10630915]I am tempted! I was out last night with a group of Brits and one of them blurted "You must be crazy. I was there last year and it's over populated, no one speaks English any more, the weather is atrocious..." etc, etc. But he has a lovely American wife, they have oodles of dosh and travel all over the world doing fun stuff and he doesn't have any family left in the UK.

Someone came up with this idea on another thread, a guy called Shard, and I thought it was brilliant so I'm reposting it here and also my reply - gave me a moment!!!

Re: Home after 11 years.

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Originally Posted by Shard Of course there are two types of Brits (especially expat-Brits) those who genuinely think Britain is going to the dogs or is a miserable place, and the rest of us who accept it has a few problems in isolated pockets, but is generally demi-paradise. Those in the latter category would not be so vulgar as to inflict that view on others.

I think it has a lot to do with one's "lot in life in Britain" some people do escape some unfortunate circumstances or benefit from a social mobility that they would be denied in Britain. But those whose circumstances are fortunate enough to begin with are far less likely genuinely denigrate the Britain.

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That is so true, you've really hit the nail on the head there.

My ex boss came to Oz 10 years ago, he's married with two kids. Paramedic wages are higher here if you work in remote locations (he does) and, at the time, house prices were low. He came from a council house in Oldham but now owns a 4 bed house with a pool and has a very nice lifestyle. He and his wife are definitely in the 'UK is a shithole' camp! They constantly post pictures of the beach on Facebook and updates of 'sitting in the pool drinking beer' etc etc etc

I don't have kids (by choice) so have a higher disposable income, I own a small property on the south coast, nothing flash but I like it I can work offshore in the UK and earn good wages. I am from a working class background same as he is but my circumstances are very different. I have a nice life here in Oz but an equally nice one in the UK. The UK holds more benefits for me IMO as I'd like to be near my family and I can work freelance as well, something that I can't do here as my qualifications aren't recognised.

My ex boss and another guy here (an ex UK copper who has FOUR kids!) have been giving me a really hard time re my move home. You know the usual - 'You're mad!', England's f*****', 'You'll be back', 'You're making a huge mistake' etc etc

Your post has made me realise why we see things so differently and will help me shrug off their comments even more so thank you! __________________

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I am tempted! I was out last night with a group of Brits and one of them blurted "You must be crazy. I was there last year and it's over populated, no one speaks English any more, the weather is atrocious..." etc, etc. But he has a lovely American wife, they have oodles of dosh and travel all over the world doing fun stuff and he doesn't have any family left in the UK.

Someone came up with this idea on another thread, a guy called Shard, and I thought it was brilliant so I'm reposting it here and also my reply - gave me a moment!!!

Re: Home after 11 years.

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Originally Posted by Shard Of course there are two types of Brits (especially expat-Brits) those who genuinely think Britain is going to the dogs or is a miserable place, and the rest of us who accept it has a few problems in isolated pockets, but is generally demi-paradise. Those in the latter category would not be so vulgar as to inflict that view on others.

I think it has a lot to do with one's "lot in life in Britain" some people do escape some unfortunate circumstances or benefit from a social mobility that they would be denied in Britain. But those whose circumstances are fortunate enough to begin with are far less likely genuinely denigrate the Britain.

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That is so true, you've really hit the nail on the head there.

My ex boss came to Oz 10 years ago, he's married with two kids. Paramedic wages are higher here if you work in remote locations (he does) and, at the time, house prices were low. He came from a council house in Oldham but now owns a 4 bed house with a pool and has a very nice lifestyle. He and his wife are definitely in the 'UK is a shithole' camp! They constantly post pictures of the beach on Facebook and updates of 'sitting in the pool drinking beer' etc etc etc

I don't have kids (by choice) so have a higher disposable income, I own a small property on the south coast, nothing flash but I like it I can work offshore in the UK and earn good wages. I am from a working class background same as he is but my circumstances are very different. I have a nice life here in Oz but an equally nice one in the UK. The UK holds more benefits for me IMO as I'd like to be near my family and I can work freelance as well, something that I can't do here as my qualifications aren't recognised.

My ex boss and another guy here (an ex UK copper who has FOUR kids!) have been giving me a really hard time re my move home. You know the usual - 'You're mad!', England's f*****', 'You'll be back', 'You're making a huge mistake' etc etc

Your post has made me realise why we see things so differently and will help me shrug off their comments even more so thank you! __________________


When I moved over here nothing got in my way because I was doing it for love of a man (sigh). Now I'm doing it for myself and I seem to allow other's doubts and opinions to influence my own. Everyone's entitled to their own opinion and I'm not usually swayed off course so easily. There are dream stealers everywhere and I just need to shut them out.

Demi-paradise. That's where I'm heading!
 
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When I moved over here nothing got in my way because I was doing it for love of a man (sigh). Now I'm doing it for myself and I seem to allow other's doubts and opinions to influence my own. Everyone's entitled to their own opinion and I'm not usually swayed off course so easily. There are dream stealers everywhere and I just need to shut them out.

Demi-paradise. That's where I'm heading!
Don't let anyone influence you...because like you said they're entitled to their opinion. Stick plugs in your ears, stick your tongue out at them and go la-la-la-la NOT LISTENING ! usually works for me..
 
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Britain is not crap.

Drinking beer in a pool in the outback might be fun for about a week.
 
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Britain is not crap.

Drinking beer in a pool in the outback might be fun for about a week.
Try an hour or two.. When you're not melting under the hot sun and no ozone layer, or swatting away millions of mozzies it soon becomes less of a paradise and more of a fight for survivial.
 
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Try an hour or two.. When you're not melting under the hot sun and no ozone layer, or swatting away millions of mozzies it soon becomes less of a paradise and more of a fight for survivial.
I was trying to be generous
 
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Britain is not crap.

Drinking beer in a pool in the outback might be fun for about a week.
No it isn't crap at all. I find it so strange that a lot of the Poms I know here seem to want to put me down for wanting to return. And the Aussies? Well after 5 years of whinging Pom jibes and racist comments about 'bloody immigrants' so many of them seem to take it as a personal insult that I would rather live in my country than theirs - you just can't win either way lol! I'm just doing my own thing and I'm happy so not too bothered by it anymore, far too excited about getting home!

I have an old school friend, her hubby and kids visiting here atm, his family live in Sydney and they were telling me over lunch that they were thinking about immigrating here hence this holiday. I just smiled and wished them well, it might really work out for them it might not - who knows? Everyone has hopes and dreams and I don't feel the need to trample over theirs!

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No it isn't crap at all. I find it so strange that a lot of the Poms I know here seem to want to put me down for wanting to return. And the Aussies? Well after 5 years of whinging Pom jibes and racist comments about 'bloody immigrants' so many of them seem to take it as a personal insult that I would rather live in my country than theirs - you just can't win either way lol! I'm just doing my own thing and I'm happy so not too bothered by it anymore, far too excited about getting home!

I have an old school friend, her hubby and kids visiting here atm, his family live in Sydney and they were telling me over lunch that they were thinking about immigrating here hence this holiday. I just smiled and wished them well, it might really work out for them it might not - who knows? Everyone has hopes and dreams and I don't feel the need to trample over theirs!
Well I was just discussing this same event with someone who has spent a lot of time out of the mother country like me. We came to the conclusion in our humble opinion that many people feel the need to justify their decisions and put on a brave face, kind of a defence mechanism. On another note we both agreed that we rarely if ever socialize with other Brit expats in the US. Ironic as we were introduced. I always find them to be an accentuated version of Brits abroad and not something I particularly want to be around. BE website is about as close as I will get And even then that gets to much sometimes

I often have Americans ask me why I don't associate with other Brits here and my short answer is: I left the place to get away from them....Do you know what I mean? Yet more irony there I suppose...The ones you meet here in the US in UK themed pubs, or social groups always seem to be emphasizing their Britishness. Don't get me wrong thats great but I particularly love hearing a Scouse accent thats become London business posh!!

The ones I meet by chance or like any other encounter by personal introduction always work out fine. Its the ones who crave that are sometimes worrisome. As for the locals - your lucky at least Aussies seem to poke fun. Here the yokels all seem to get indignant and personally offended when you tell them your leaving as if there is nowhere else better than the US I have learnt to predicate my comments with "...its not that here is better or worse..." I suppose there is some element of truth in that comment. Ultimately it is all personal decision based upon personal circumstances which can and will change over time so that no one decision should ever be set in stone. 10 years ago I loved it here. Today I feel the need to spend some time in Britain surrounded by comforts only I know bring happiness. In 3 years time that may change again. Acceptance of that fact I think is what many people miss. Nothing is final and I think it would be boring if it were so.

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