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paulainspain Nov 11th 2006 10:25 pm

Re: Moving back from Australia
 

Originally Posted by Rosie Cheeks
So they would be at school already in Spain?

Australia is so far away from the Uk, are you sure you want to live here for the rest of your life.

Spain is one thing but Australia? Chalk and cheese

No not sure at all, but you never know until you try, thats why we tried Spain, love the weather and people but for the future we really dont think its for us or the boys. The boys are at school and are doing fine, the experience here has been a good one and I think taking the small step of moving from friends and family will make it easier moving on, but yes it is a very long way, no cheap retail therapy flights back home if we do move!!!!

Mercedes Nov 11th 2006 10:32 pm

Re: Moving back from Australia
 

Originally Posted by paulainspain
Hello all, what a great read all these replies have been and what an insight, we currently live in Spain, just north of Alicante and do like it, although we are thinking about moving to Australia for my childrens future, we feel there may be more opportunites there for them. We love the UK but at this moment do not want to move back. But after reading all comments not too sure we want to go to Australia now!!! We travelled to Perth in Feb to visit friends who moved over there, liked it but fancy visiting the East coast, can anyone recommend the place???

I would stay put, a) your're nearer relatives in the UK so can pop over as much as you want b) your kids are learning Spanish (I assume) so that opens another door for them. With being bilingual that in itself opens more doors. Spanish is the second most popular language. I don't know what you do for a living but you probably have more opportunties in Europe and closer to the rest of the world. Trouble with Australia (I also live in Spain and have lived in Australia) is you have a population of approx 20 million scattered across a continent, and the cities are approx 12 hours driving apart. So if you don't get work in one, you literally have to relocate.

You create your own opportunties in life anywhere.

Rosie Cheeks Nov 11th 2006 10:35 pm

Re: Moving back from Australia
 

Originally Posted by paulainspain
No not sure at all, but you never know until you try, thats why we tried Spain, love the weather and people but for the future we really dont think its for us or the boys. The boys are at school and are doing fine, the experience here has been a good one and I think taking the small step of moving from friends and family will make it easier moving on, but yes it is a very long way, no cheap retail therapy flights back home if we do move!!!!

If you can get your boys into a good school, that will be half the battle. You would need to be very certain about where you are going to, research the schools and apply ASAP, the waiting lists tend to be horrendous. That would only apply if you are putting them into a private school though.

Even if you are looking at state schools, they vary aswell, so try to live near a good one. I actually wouldn't put my boy into a state school, but thats just me, I have friends and relatives who are teachers here and none of them recommended the state education system. Other people here may well agree or disagree with that.

Its true, you wont know what its like here if you dont try. Have you been to Australia for a holiday? It is a stunning country to visit.

Mercedes Nov 11th 2006 10:55 pm

Re: Moving back from Australia
 

Originally Posted by LouiseD
Harder? Obviously but not financial suicide - there's a world of difference.

As for time I'm not staying around here to be a pauper any longer - I've got a life to live. Done the poor thing before in the eighties under Thatcher and am beggared if I'm doing it again.

Well I know many who did well in the 80's. But it is hard going to another country and establishing yourself, I did 12 years in Australia, and it had it's ups and downs. When you are struggling, life isn't fun anywhere. I found it quite hard going back to the uK and starting over again, but I did iin Australia so knew I could do it again, which I have done. I hope you have money in sterling and not all in Australian dollars as I also lost in the exchange rate on my return.

Try and enjoy any remaining time in Australia if you can, and best of luck going back to the UK, hopefully you will be able to pick up where you left off and your bank balance starts looking healthy again......just remember not to leave your bins out on the wrong day, as they are now fining loads of people. The Blair gestapo have to earn their living. :D

toandfro Nov 11th 2006 10:58 pm

Re: Moving back from Australia
 

Originally Posted by Rosie Cheeks
Let me know how the foxtel pans out.
Thinking about getting it myself.

foxtel or austar now there's atread

LouiseD Nov 12th 2006 6:40 am

Re: Moving back from Australia
 

Originally Posted by Mercedes
Well I know many who did well in the 80's. But it is hard going to another country and establishing yourself, I did 12 years in Australia, and it had it's ups and downs. When you are struggling, life isn't fun anywhere. I found it quite hard going back to the uK and starting over again, but I did iin Australia so knew I could do it again, which I have done. I hope you have money in sterling and not all in Australian dollars as I also lost in the exchange rate on my return.

Try and enjoy any remaining time in Australia if you can, and best of luck going back to the UK, hopefully you will be able to pick up where you left off and your bank balance starts looking healthy again......just remember not to leave your bins out on the wrong day, as they are now fining loads of people. The Blair gestapo have to earn their living. :D

Thanks Mercedes. Yes our money is still in sterling thank goodness (what is left of it).

I think that it's the main reason we are not enjoying it here - it is after all a beautiful country - we came here wanting to explore Oz and to sample everything it has to offer. Obviously if you are struggling to pay the bills, you can't even consider getting out and about. That said, we've used some of our UK money to visit places - after all you only get one life, so we certainly will enjoy our time here and we'll definetely be back to explore more of the place on visits. ;)

kiwi_child Dec 10th 2006 7:25 am

Re: Moving back from Australia
 

Originally Posted by BAY
Life is for living ... you get out of it what you put into it ... stop feeling sorry for yourself and start living :)

Snappy little platitudes and cliches DO NOT change someone's reality. Have you actually lived in Australia? And if so, for how long? There is life in Australia, but not as we know it Jim ;) It lacks soul, it is a victim of it's own myth, superficiality and social dislocation rule. If you're not born n bred in that little part of oz, don't expect inclusivity to be par for the course.

by the sea side Dec 10th 2006 7:56 am

Re: Moving back from Australia
 

Originally Posted by kiwi_child
Snappy little platitudes and cliches DO NOT change someone's reality. Have you actually lived in Australia? And if so, for how long? There is life in Australia, but not as we know it Jim ;) It lacks soul, it is a victim of it's own myth, superficiality and social dislocation rule. If you're not born n bred in that little part of oz, don't expect inclusivity to be par for the course.


Well said. Amazing how some people no it all and they haven't even been here

kiwi_child Dec 10th 2006 8:04 am

Re: Moving back from Australia
 

Originally Posted by by the sea side
Well said. Amazing how some people no it all and they haven't even been here

Cheers mate :) Oh yeh, I've seen it all before unfortuantely, only now they are having a go at those on the moving back to uk forum.

iamthecreaturefromuranus Dec 10th 2006 12:42 pm

Re: Moving back from Australia
 

Originally Posted by denver
As an Australian, we have an in built "whinging Pom" alarm, as soon as one is in the vicinity we all get scurrying.

Interesting that... the longer I spend here, the more acute my 'Arrogant Loudmouth Australian' alarm is getting.

LouiseD Dec 10th 2006 1:28 pm

Re: Moving back from Australia
 

Originally Posted by kiwi_child
Snappy little platitudes and cliches DO NOT change someone's reality. Have you actually lived in Australia? And if so, for how long? There is life in Australia, but not as we know it Jim ;) It lacks soul, it is a victim of it's own myth, superficiality and social dislocation rule. If you're not born n bred in that little part of oz, don't expect inclusivity to be par for the course.

So true Kiwi - any idiot can quote cliches. I've found that whilst there are a few people who have understanding with discontented expats, there are quite a number who don't even read what most people are going through. It's far easier for them to dish out nonsense to make themselves feel better. To be honest if I was a happy expat I wouldn't even be on this forum at all let alone be telling others how they should be feeling and living their lives :confused:

by the sea side Dec 12th 2006 9:59 pm

Re: Moving back from Australia
 

Originally Posted by LouiseD
So true Kiwi - any idiot can quote cliches. I've found that whilst there are a few people who have understanding with discontented expats, there are quite a number who don't even read what most people are going through. It's far easier for them to dish out nonsense to make themselves feel better. To be honest if I was a happy expat I wouldn't even be on this forum at all let alone be telling others how they should be feeling and living their lives :confused:

I have been wondering the same thing,about happy expats.there seems to be many that live within an expat community and some have got friends that have come with them or followed them out.So I wonder what is going on with some of then sometimes.

toandfro Dec 12th 2006 10:05 pm

Re: Moving back from Australia
 
Originally Posted by denver
As an Australian, we have an in built "whinging Pom" alarm, as soon as one is in the vicinity we all get scurrying.



Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus
Interesting that... the longer I spend here, the more acute my 'Arrogant Loudmouth Australian' alarm is getting.

pity they don't scurry back under the rock they hatched from and stay there . and the afore mentioned WP alarm is actually the three brain cells rattling in their heads :D

FPM Dec 13th 2006 11:00 am

Re: Moving back from Australia
 

Originally Posted by denver
As an Australian, we have an in built "whinging Pom" alarm, as soon as one is in the vicinity we all get scurrying
Yes all scurrying back to the dingo ghetto of Earl's Court, where you are all desperately trying trying to get your Grandfather's birth certificate so you can stay in Eng and the EU.

We have all qualified to be in your country. Tell me, what have you done to qualify yourselves to be in ours? As far as I can see, your only qualification is that you once had an ancestor that was born in England, and that person or their offspring moved here.

Hardly busting down the doors of MENSA is it :rolleyes:

toandfro Dec 13th 2006 11:30 am

Re: Moving back from Australia
 

Originally Posted by FPM
Yes all scurrying back to the dingo ghetto of Earl's Court, where you are all desperately trying trying to get your Grandfather's birth certificate so you can stay in Eng and the EU.

We have all qualified to be in your country. Tell me, what have you done to qualify yourselves to be in ours? As far as I can see, your only qualification is that you once had an ancestor that was born in England, and that person or their offspring moved here.

Hardly busting down the doors of MENSA is it :rolleyes:

Problem is FPM UK is fair about it's work visas and residence status ,they allow for the human condition and treat people with a modicum of respect .unlike the protectionist Aussie immigration that my son is at present in battle with ,he brought he English fiancee on a work visa as they didn't want to rush into getting married .they have bought a house she as worked they have book the "church" so to speak but the department of Immigration insists that she return to the UK take up to 6mths to process a marriage visa and it's not guaranteed both are heart broken at the prospect .

I've also noticed that the "Whinging Poms" here have expressed their wish to leave and given the reasons why they have to wait or just plain stay Family spouse money etc but the London based "moaning Ozzie" just out right moans if these people (or that person) should just leave like we're constantly advised to do


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