Interesting reading for those thinking of returning from Oz
Dec 18th 2006, 8:16 am
#241
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Re: Interesting reading for those thinking of returning from Oz
:-) I can see this is the first enjoyment any of you have had for quite a while, lol.
Don't know if there's anything more disgusting and stomach turning than a group of vicious, small, cowardly little nonentities all pretending to agree with each other, once they've found what they imagine to be a 'common bond' -- formed of course by their creating a common target.
Yes. You are playing victim.
Yes, in order for you to be victim, you must portray someone/something as the victimiser.
You've chosen the Australian government. You are claiming it falsely 'lured' you to Australia.
You JUMPED at the chance. You were breathless.
It made you a star for once in your small do-nothing communities and familes.
You played it for all it was worth.
You came into the forums and postively GUSHED about how you were on pins and needles, waiting to see if you'd been accepted.
You tossed in your often pointless, worthless employment and homes in less than salubrious locations.
You WOULD have gone to Spain -- but you couldn't master the language and they didn't need your often very slim 'skills' there.
You WOULD have gone to Canada, which is reknowned for accepting those feeling hum-drum and less than hum-drum lives in UK. But it was just more rain and cold, not much glamour and not exactly famous for turning dreams into gold-dust.
YOU CHOSE Australia. ' After all,' you told your neighbours and families, ' We won't have to learn a new language and it's just a combination of Florida and Spain really, without all the crime. And our money will go so far. We can buy a mansion there and get a suntan. It's a Commonwealth nation so we'll have all the advantages.'
You thought you were going to live the dream.
And you thought wrong.
Now you're bitching.
Now you're playing victim and saying you were 'tricked'.
And in order to convince yourselves that it wasn't YOUR fault, you're blaming the Australian public and government and anything else you can think of.
And it's shoddy behaviour.
And you know it.
And there are many who are reading this and nodding their heads.
You don't have to like Australia.
But you DO need to accept that it was your decision. And it's your decision regarding where you go from here.
Gang attacking me will NOT help you. It won't change your circumstances.
It won't alter the truth. It won't make you happy. If it does, then you're further gone down the slippery slope to nowhere than you could ever imagine.
You're even too dishonest to acknowledge the truth when it's before your eyes. You're in a very sad way, in more ways than one
Don't know if there's anything more disgusting and stomach turning than a group of vicious, small, cowardly little nonentities all pretending to agree with each other, once they've found what they imagine to be a 'common bond' -- formed of course by their creating a common target.
Yes. You are playing victim.
Yes, in order for you to be victim, you must portray someone/something as the victimiser.
You've chosen the Australian government. You are claiming it falsely 'lured' you to Australia.
You JUMPED at the chance. You were breathless.
It made you a star for once in your small do-nothing communities and familes.
You played it for all it was worth.
You came into the forums and postively GUSHED about how you were on pins and needles, waiting to see if you'd been accepted.
You tossed in your often pointless, worthless employment and homes in less than salubrious locations.
You WOULD have gone to Spain -- but you couldn't master the language and they didn't need your often very slim 'skills' there.
You WOULD have gone to Canada, which is reknowned for accepting those feeling hum-drum and less than hum-drum lives in UK. But it was just more rain and cold, not much glamour and not exactly famous for turning dreams into gold-dust.
YOU CHOSE Australia. ' After all,' you told your neighbours and families, ' We won't have to learn a new language and it's just a combination of Florida and Spain really, without all the crime. And our money will go so far. We can buy a mansion there and get a suntan. It's a Commonwealth nation so we'll have all the advantages.'
You thought you were going to live the dream.
And you thought wrong.
Now you're bitching.
Now you're playing victim and saying you were 'tricked'.
And in order to convince yourselves that it wasn't YOUR fault, you're blaming the Australian public and government and anything else you can think of.
And it's shoddy behaviour.
And you know it.
And there are many who are reading this and nodding their heads.
You don't have to like Australia.
But you DO need to accept that it was your decision. And it's your decision regarding where you go from here.
Gang attacking me will NOT help you. It won't change your circumstances.
It won't alter the truth. It won't make you happy. If it does, then you're further gone down the slippery slope to nowhere than you could ever imagine.
You're even too dishonest to acknowledge the truth when it's before your eyes. You're in a very sad way, in more ways than one
Dec 18th 2006, 8:18 am
#242
Life is more than a dream
Joined: Oct 2006
Location: Kings Moss, UK - it's a bit like Emmerdale
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Re: Interesting reading for those thinking of returning from Oz
Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus
I think I understand now. You're envious. Envious of a group, who have either made the decision to, or are talking about, going home. Home to a land you still see as home, but will never get to live in.
Jealousy is an evil master... it will twist you into shapes you may not like when you look in the mirror.
Jealousy is an evil master... it will twist you into shapes you may not like when you look in the mirror.
But the years have passed by. One thing and another has prevented me from returning to the UK. I doubt I'll ever be able to do it now, apart from have my ashes sent back there.
Sad really innit?
Dec 18th 2006, 8:21 am
#243
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Joined: Oct 2006
Location: Kings Moss, UK - it's a bit like Emmerdale
Posts: 1,389
Re: Interesting reading for those thinking of returning from Oz
You back again Lane?
Hang on to your seats folks second lesson begins. Time to read the bulletin I think
Hang on to your seats folks second lesson begins. Time to read the bulletin I think
Dec 18th 2006, 8:26 am
#244
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Posts: 14,188
Re: Interesting reading for those thinking of returning from Oz
Originally Posted by Lane
:-) I can see this is the first enjoyment any of you have had for quite a while, lol.
Don't know if there's anything more disgusting and stomach turning than a group of vicious, small, cowardly little nonentities all pretending to agree with each other, once they've found what they imagine to be a 'common bond' -- formed of course by their creating a common target.
Yes. You are playing victim.
Yes, in order for you to be victim, you must portray someone/something as the victimiser.
You've chosen the Australian government. You are claiming it falsely 'lured' you to Australia.
You JUMPED at the chance. You were breathless.
It made you a star for once in your small do-nothing communities and familes.
You played it for all it was worth.
You came into the forums and postively GUSHED about how you were on pins and needles, waiting to see if you'd been accepted.
You tossed in your often pointless, worthless employment and homes in less than salubrious locations.
You WOULD have gone to Spain -- but you couldn't master the language and they didn't need your often very slim 'skills' there.
You WOULD have gone to Canada, which is reknowned for accepting those feeling hum-drum and less than hum-drum lives in UK. But it was just more rain and cold, not much glamour and not exactly famous for turning dreams into gold-dust.
YOU CHOSE Australia. ' After all,' you told your neighbours and families, ' We won't have to learn a new language and it's just a combination of Florida and Spain really, without all the crime. And our money will go so far. We can buy a mansion there and get a suntan. It's a Commonwealth nation so we'll have all the advantages.'
You thought you were going to live the dream.
And you thought wrong.
Now you're bitching.
Now you're playing victim and saying you were 'tricked'.
And in order to convince yourselves that it wasn't YOUR fault, you're blaming the Australian public and government and anything else you can think of.
And it's shoddy behaviour.
And you know it.
And there are many who are reading this and nodding their heads.
You don't have to like Australia.
But you DO need to accept that it was your decision. And it's your decision regarding where you go from here.
Gang attacking me will NOT help you. It won't change your circumstances.
It won't alter the truth. It won't make you happy. If it does, then you're further gone down the slippery slope to nowhere than you could ever imagine.
You're even too dishonest to acknowledge the truth when it's before your eyes. You're in a very sad way, in more ways than one
Don't know if there's anything more disgusting and stomach turning than a group of vicious, small, cowardly little nonentities all pretending to agree with each other, once they've found what they imagine to be a 'common bond' -- formed of course by their creating a common target.
Yes. You are playing victim.
Yes, in order for you to be victim, you must portray someone/something as the victimiser.
You've chosen the Australian government. You are claiming it falsely 'lured' you to Australia.
You JUMPED at the chance. You were breathless.
It made you a star for once in your small do-nothing communities and familes.
You played it for all it was worth.
You came into the forums and postively GUSHED about how you were on pins and needles, waiting to see if you'd been accepted.
You tossed in your often pointless, worthless employment and homes in less than salubrious locations.
You WOULD have gone to Spain -- but you couldn't master the language and they didn't need your often very slim 'skills' there.
You WOULD have gone to Canada, which is reknowned for accepting those feeling hum-drum and less than hum-drum lives in UK. But it was just more rain and cold, not much glamour and not exactly famous for turning dreams into gold-dust.
YOU CHOSE Australia. ' After all,' you told your neighbours and families, ' We won't have to learn a new language and it's just a combination of Florida and Spain really, without all the crime. And our money will go so far. We can buy a mansion there and get a suntan. It's a Commonwealth nation so we'll have all the advantages.'
You thought you were going to live the dream.
And you thought wrong.
Now you're bitching.
Now you're playing victim and saying you were 'tricked'.
And in order to convince yourselves that it wasn't YOUR fault, you're blaming the Australian public and government and anything else you can think of.
And it's shoddy behaviour.
And you know it.
And there are many who are reading this and nodding their heads.
You don't have to like Australia.
But you DO need to accept that it was your decision. And it's your decision regarding where you go from here.
Gang attacking me will NOT help you. It won't change your circumstances.
It won't alter the truth. It won't make you happy. If it does, then you're further gone down the slippery slope to nowhere than you could ever imagine.
You're even too dishonest to acknowledge the truth when it's before your eyes. You're in a very sad way, in more ways than one
Do I feel a victim? Not in the slightest, but I think you do.
Was it my decision to come... of course it was. Why on earth do you believe I would claim anything different?.
Dec 18th 2006, 8:29 am
#245
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Re: Interesting reading for those thinking of returning from Oz
Originally Posted by Lane
You packed up in the UK, lock, stock and barrel.
You completed endless forms. You worked your backsides off to qualify for acceptance into Australia.
You made the decision to leave your friends, family, neighbours.
You left your jobs.
You sold your homes, if you had property to sell.
You went to 'farewell' parties held in your honour.
You said weepy goodbyes.
You completed more forms and held your breath, hoping to be accepted by Australia.
You hopped on planes and settled into your seats.
You arrived in the place you'd chosen to live.
And then you discovered you'd brought yourself and a lot of your inherent problems with you.
If Australia disappointed you, then logically, you'd held expectations that were, or which proved to be, unrealistic.
Perhaps you were unable to function as comfortably as when you'd enjoyed a support network in UK?
Maybe you were used to your parents babysitting your children?
Maybe you were used to being able to hit on certain people for loans?
Maybe you were drawing a wage in a job that you weren't doing all that well, but were getting away with it?
Maybe you are a limited individual who needs others to prop you up?
Whatever the case, it was a different situation when you landed in Australia.
Of course it was !
Why didn't you work that out before you left the UK? It's not rocket science.
Maybe you didn't want to think of how it would be once you arrived in Australia?
Maybe you chose to believe it would just 'work itself out' to your satisfaction?
And then you learned differently.
Ok. There's an easy solution: just return to the UK.
But at least learn something from the experience.
Admit to yourselves, if to no-one else, that it was your error/s of judgement that was/is responsible.
Australia is what it is. A ten year old could amass a mountain of information about Australia, warts and all, in a few hours online.
Australia isn't Utopia. Did you expect Utopia? Do you still read children's fairy stories too?
But wait a minute ------ aren't you the same people who boast how you did a real good deal when you bought your washing machine, car, pair of boots?
So on one hand, you're savvy enough to see through the hype and get yourselves a good deal -------- but on the other, you can't see past the hype and your own self-interest when it comes to making a life-changing decision ? Does that make sense to you? Not to anyone else either.
You came for you -- for your own benefit.
WHO's decision was it to come to Australia?
That's right: it was yours.
That's where it should end.
After all, you make decisions to have children, too, don't you?
What do you do when you don't like those --- blame the midwife ?
You completed endless forms. You worked your backsides off to qualify for acceptance into Australia.
You made the decision to leave your friends, family, neighbours.
You left your jobs.
You sold your homes, if you had property to sell.
You went to 'farewell' parties held in your honour.
You said weepy goodbyes.
You completed more forms and held your breath, hoping to be accepted by Australia.
You hopped on planes and settled into your seats.
You arrived in the place you'd chosen to live.
And then you discovered you'd brought yourself and a lot of your inherent problems with you.
If Australia disappointed you, then logically, you'd held expectations that were, or which proved to be, unrealistic.
Perhaps you were unable to function as comfortably as when you'd enjoyed a support network in UK?
Maybe you were used to your parents babysitting your children?
Maybe you were used to being able to hit on certain people for loans?
Maybe you were drawing a wage in a job that you weren't doing all that well, but were getting away with it?
Maybe you are a limited individual who needs others to prop you up?
Whatever the case, it was a different situation when you landed in Australia.
Of course it was !
Why didn't you work that out before you left the UK? It's not rocket science.
Maybe you didn't want to think of how it would be once you arrived in Australia?
Maybe you chose to believe it would just 'work itself out' to your satisfaction?
And then you learned differently.
Ok. There's an easy solution: just return to the UK.
But at least learn something from the experience.
Admit to yourselves, if to no-one else, that it was your error/s of judgement that was/is responsible.
Australia is what it is. A ten year old could amass a mountain of information about Australia, warts and all, in a few hours online.
Australia isn't Utopia. Did you expect Utopia? Do you still read children's fairy stories too?
But wait a minute ------ aren't you the same people who boast how you did a real good deal when you bought your washing machine, car, pair of boots?
So on one hand, you're savvy enough to see through the hype and get yourselves a good deal -------- but on the other, you can't see past the hype and your own self-interest when it comes to making a life-changing decision ? Does that make sense to you? Not to anyone else either.
You came for you -- for your own benefit.
WHO's decision was it to come to Australia?
That's right: it was yours.
That's where it should end.
After all, you make decisions to have children, too, don't you?
What do you do when you don't like those --- blame the midwife ?
Dec 18th 2006, 8:31 am
#246
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Re: Interesting reading for those thinking of returning from Oz
[QUOTE=Lane
It made you a star for once in your small do-nothing communities and familes.
You tossed in your often pointless, worthless employment and homes in less than salubrious locations.
[/QUOTE]
Is this how you are feeling about yourself?
It made you a star for once in your small do-nothing communities and familes.
You tossed in your often pointless, worthless employment and homes in less than salubrious locations.
[/QUOTE]
Is this how you are feeling about yourself?
Dec 18th 2006, 8:40 am
#247
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Joined: Aug 2006
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Posts: 735
Re: Interesting reading for those thinking of returning from Oz
Originally Posted by Lane
:-) I can see this is the first enjoyment any of you have had for quite a while, lol.
Don't know if there's anything more disgusting and stomach turning than a group of vicious, small, cowardly little nonentities all pretending to agree with each other, once they've found what they imagine to be a 'common bond' -- formed of course by their creating a common target.
Yes. You are playing victim.
Yes, in order for you to be victim, you must portray someone/something as the victimiser.
You've chosen the Australian government. You are claiming it falsely 'lured' you to Australia.
You JUMPED at the chance. You were breathless.
It made you a star for once in your small do-nothing communities and familes.
You played it for all it was worth.
You came into the forums and postively GUSHED about how you were on pins and needles, waiting to see if you'd been accepted.
You tossed in your often pointless, worthless employment and homes in less than salubrious locations.
You WOULD have gone to Spain -- but you couldn't master the language and they didn't need your often very slim 'skills' there.
You WOULD have gone to Canada, which is reknowned for accepting those feeling hum-drum and less than hum-drum lives in UK. But it was just more rain and cold, not much glamour and not exactly famous for turning dreams into gold-dust.
YOU CHOSE Australia. ' After all,' you told your neighbours and families, ' We won't have to learn a new language and it's just a combination of Florida and Spain really, without all the crime. And our money will go so far. We can buy a mansion there and get a suntan. It's a Commonwealth nation so we'll have all the advantages.'
You thought you were going to live the dream.
And you thought wrong.
Now you're bitching.
Now you're playing victim and saying you were 'tricked'.
And in order to convince yourselves that it wasn't YOUR fault, you're blaming the Australian public and government and anything else you can think of.
And it's shoddy behaviour.
And you know it.
And there are many who are reading this and nodding their heads.
You don't have to like Australia.
But you DO need to accept that it was your decision. And it's your decision regarding where you go from here.
Gang attacking me will NOT help you. It won't change your circumstances.
It won't alter the truth. It won't make you happy. If it does, then you're further gone down the slippery slope to nowhere than you could ever imagine.
You're even too dishonest to acknowledge the truth when it's before your eyes. You're in a very sad way, in more ways than one
Don't know if there's anything more disgusting and stomach turning than a group of vicious, small, cowardly little nonentities all pretending to agree with each other, once they've found what they imagine to be a 'common bond' -- formed of course by their creating a common target.
Yes. You are playing victim.
Yes, in order for you to be victim, you must portray someone/something as the victimiser.
You've chosen the Australian government. You are claiming it falsely 'lured' you to Australia.
You JUMPED at the chance. You were breathless.
It made you a star for once in your small do-nothing communities and familes.
You played it for all it was worth.
You came into the forums and postively GUSHED about how you were on pins and needles, waiting to see if you'd been accepted.
You tossed in your often pointless, worthless employment and homes in less than salubrious locations.
You WOULD have gone to Spain -- but you couldn't master the language and they didn't need your often very slim 'skills' there.
You WOULD have gone to Canada, which is reknowned for accepting those feeling hum-drum and less than hum-drum lives in UK. But it was just more rain and cold, not much glamour and not exactly famous for turning dreams into gold-dust.
YOU CHOSE Australia. ' After all,' you told your neighbours and families, ' We won't have to learn a new language and it's just a combination of Florida and Spain really, without all the crime. And our money will go so far. We can buy a mansion there and get a suntan. It's a Commonwealth nation so we'll have all the advantages.'
You thought you were going to live the dream.
And you thought wrong.
Now you're bitching.
Now you're playing victim and saying you were 'tricked'.
And in order to convince yourselves that it wasn't YOUR fault, you're blaming the Australian public and government and anything else you can think of.
And it's shoddy behaviour.
And you know it.
And there are many who are reading this and nodding their heads.
You don't have to like Australia.
But you DO need to accept that it was your decision. And it's your decision regarding where you go from here.
Gang attacking me will NOT help you. It won't change your circumstances.
It won't alter the truth. It won't make you happy. If it does, then you're further gone down the slippery slope to nowhere than you could ever imagine.
You're even too dishonest to acknowledge the truth when it's before your eyes. You're in a very sad way, in more ways than one
you really must bored to sit and type all that crap !
Dec 18th 2006, 8:48 am
#248
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Re: Interesting reading for those thinking of returning from Oz
Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus
Is this how you are feeling about yourself?
And suffice to say, he's never actually been through the emigration process himself - except as a baby - so how on earth can he question the motives and emotions of people in situations he has never been in himself?
Dec 18th 2006, 8:48 am
#249
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Posts: 18
Re: Interesting reading for those thinking of returning from Oz
As for me -- I've been back to UK in the past couple of years. And was very saddened by what I saw. It bears no resemblence to what I remembered. Ugly shopping malls now comprise a virtual 'religion' for a certain type who obviously regard them as second-homes, seeking more and more cheap consumer items in the hope (well, I don't think they even analyse it) of bringing 'meaning' and 'fulfilment' into their lives.
No wonder their offspring hang around those same shopping malls 24/7 when they get a bit older. For many of those children, UK shopping malls play the same role as 'community' and churches used to play; a 'centre' of people's lives.
Dirt everywhere. Crowds of mildly grumbling folk everywhere. All going somewhere and all looking depressed about it.
Crime. Incredible that only a decade or two ago, there were only a handful of shots fired in the entire British Isles.
Unemployment. Welfare. Council housing; more like pens in a zoo than communities.
Decent people afraid for their safety and that of their family. People avoiding entire towns and cities because of the ugliness and danger.
Drugs. What happened to the British 'spirit' ? What happened to the British regard for other's rights? What happened to the famed British sense of morality, decency, fair-play, altruism, etc?
The UK now is no different at all --- apart from the many grating, regional accents, than any ghetto or run-down area in the US.
The UK is under siege by migrants and asylum seekers from every pit on the planet. And it looks like it. It feels like it. It smells like it. It sounds like it.
The UK is also being eroded, literally, as we speak, by the ocean. Ireland, Scotland and Wales aren't all that interested in being 'united'. Canada and Australia will become republics. England will be lucky if it's not left a tiny spot on the map not much larger than Luxemburg but without any of the charm or glamour. UK as a respected world 'leader' is now just a laughing point.
Congested towns, cities and roadways. Former beauty spots now eyesores. Displaced US influence everywhere. People with something to protect looking over their shoulders anxiously. Poor England. Lardy women sporting flabby midriffs attempting to be 'young' again. Their lardy spouses and partners needing two bar stools to accomodate their girth at the local pub where they spend their welfare cheque. Their offspring dressed in imitation of Harlem negroes, their low jeans and bare backsides matched by their cheap looking sister's visible g-strings. All of them sounding like something from Little Britain, which is not so much satire as documentary.
We spent 41/2 months paying to see and hear all this. And left thankfully. Travelled from Milan to Bari. Then back up to Abruzzi, where my husband had inherited a house near Celano. We're having it renovated. Plan to spend 4 months a year there as a base. Rest of our time we'll split between the Gold Coast and Sydney, with side visits to rural areas we haven't seen yet.
I'm 'cured' of the UK. Nice memory, horrific reality. It's just a pimple on the bum of the US and greater Europe now. It contributed to its own demise. It wrecked itself whilst allowing itself to be trashed. The empire is gone. Huge sections of the population are unemployed with no hope in sight. The rest are hanging on by their teeth. Some are doing well, but they can take it with them anytime they decide to leave.
I only came back to these forums after receiving an email from the administrators. Came out of curiosity. Was appalled to see so many wallowing in self-pity. It's the same refusal to accept personal responsibility that's contributed so much to the ruin of the UK.
All you want to do, apparently, is complain and hand sympathy around to each other like a dirty hanky.
Yes, I can sympathise with you for being in a place you don't like.
What I will not do is agree with you when you claim someone else is responsible for being here (apart from those who did so to hold their marriage and family together).
You aren't going to improve your situation by blaming others.
Blame them for what -- your unhappiness.
You should know by now that it's up to you to either change your circumstances or -- if you're prevented from doing that -- then to try to find some happiness right now, where you are. The latter would assist your circumstances.
It's just occurred to me however that some of you would prefer to just continue whinging to improved circumstances.
Your life.
No wonder their offspring hang around those same shopping malls 24/7 when they get a bit older. For many of those children, UK shopping malls play the same role as 'community' and churches used to play; a 'centre' of people's lives.
Dirt everywhere. Crowds of mildly grumbling folk everywhere. All going somewhere and all looking depressed about it.
Crime. Incredible that only a decade or two ago, there were only a handful of shots fired in the entire British Isles.
Unemployment. Welfare. Council housing; more like pens in a zoo than communities.
Decent people afraid for their safety and that of their family. People avoiding entire towns and cities because of the ugliness and danger.
Drugs. What happened to the British 'spirit' ? What happened to the British regard for other's rights? What happened to the famed British sense of morality, decency, fair-play, altruism, etc?
The UK now is no different at all --- apart from the many grating, regional accents, than any ghetto or run-down area in the US.
The UK is under siege by migrants and asylum seekers from every pit on the planet. And it looks like it. It feels like it. It smells like it. It sounds like it.
The UK is also being eroded, literally, as we speak, by the ocean. Ireland, Scotland and Wales aren't all that interested in being 'united'. Canada and Australia will become republics. England will be lucky if it's not left a tiny spot on the map not much larger than Luxemburg but without any of the charm or glamour. UK as a respected world 'leader' is now just a laughing point.
Congested towns, cities and roadways. Former beauty spots now eyesores. Displaced US influence everywhere. People with something to protect looking over their shoulders anxiously. Poor England. Lardy women sporting flabby midriffs attempting to be 'young' again. Their lardy spouses and partners needing two bar stools to accomodate their girth at the local pub where they spend their welfare cheque. Their offspring dressed in imitation of Harlem negroes, their low jeans and bare backsides matched by their cheap looking sister's visible g-strings. All of them sounding like something from Little Britain, which is not so much satire as documentary.
We spent 41/2 months paying to see and hear all this. And left thankfully. Travelled from Milan to Bari. Then back up to Abruzzi, where my husband had inherited a house near Celano. We're having it renovated. Plan to spend 4 months a year there as a base. Rest of our time we'll split between the Gold Coast and Sydney, with side visits to rural areas we haven't seen yet.
I'm 'cured' of the UK. Nice memory, horrific reality. It's just a pimple on the bum of the US and greater Europe now. It contributed to its own demise. It wrecked itself whilst allowing itself to be trashed. The empire is gone. Huge sections of the population are unemployed with no hope in sight. The rest are hanging on by their teeth. Some are doing well, but they can take it with them anytime they decide to leave.
I only came back to these forums after receiving an email from the administrators. Came out of curiosity. Was appalled to see so many wallowing in self-pity. It's the same refusal to accept personal responsibility that's contributed so much to the ruin of the UK.
All you want to do, apparently, is complain and hand sympathy around to each other like a dirty hanky.
Yes, I can sympathise with you for being in a place you don't like.
What I will not do is agree with you when you claim someone else is responsible for being here (apart from those who did so to hold their marriage and family together).
You aren't going to improve your situation by blaming others.
Blame them for what -- your unhappiness.
You should know by now that it's up to you to either change your circumstances or -- if you're prevented from doing that -- then to try to find some happiness right now, where you are. The latter would assist your circumstances.
It's just occurred to me however that some of you would prefer to just continue whinging to improved circumstances.
Your life.
Dec 18th 2006, 8:58 am
#250
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Re: Interesting reading for those thinking of returning from Oz
Originally Posted by Lane
As for me -- I've been back to UK in the past couple of years. And was very saddened by what I saw. It bears no resemblence to what I remembered. Ugly shopping malls now comprise a virtual 'religion' for a certain type who obviously regard them as second-homes, seeking more and more cheap consumer items in the hope (well, I don't think they even analyse it) of bringing 'meaning' and 'fulfilment' into their lives.
No wonder their offspring hang around those same shopping malls 24/7 when they get a bit older. For many of those children, UK shopping malls play the same role as 'community' and churches used to play; a 'centre' of people's lives.
Dirt everywhere. Crowds of mildly grumbling folk everywhere. All going somewhere and all looking depressed about it.
Crime. Incredible that only a decade or two ago, there were only a handful of shots fired in the entire British Isles.
Unemployment. Welfare. Council housing; more like pens in a zoo than communities.
Decent people afraid for their safety and that of their family. People avoiding entire towns and cities because of the ugliness and danger.
Drugs. What happened to the British 'spirit' ? What happened to the British regard for other's rights? What happened to the famed British sense of morality, decency, fair-play, altruism, etc?
The UK now is no different at all --- apart from the many grating, regional accents, than any ghetto or run-down area in the US.
The UK is under siege by migrants and asylum seekers from every pit on the planet. And it looks like it. It feels like it. It smells like it. It sounds like it.
The UK is also being eroded, literally, as we speak, by the ocean. Ireland, Scotland and Wales aren't all that interested in being 'united'. Canada and Australia will become republics. England will be lucky if it's not left a tiny spot on the map not much larger than Luxemburg but without any of the charm or glamour. UK as a respected world 'leader' is now just a laughing point.
Congested towns, cities and roadways. Former beauty spots now eyesores. Displaced US influence everywhere. People with something to protect looking over their shoulders anxiously. Poor England. Lardy women sporting flabby midriffs attempting to be 'young' again. Their lardy spouses and partners needing two bar stools to accomodate their girth at the local pub where they spend their welfare cheque. Their offspring dressed in imitation of Harlem negroes, their low jeans and bare backsides matched by their cheap looking sister's visible g-strings. All of them sounding like something from Little Britain, which is not so much satire as documentary.
We spent 41/2 months paying to see and hear all this. And left thankfully. Travelled from Milan to Bari. Then back up to Abruzzi, where my husband had inherited a house near Celano. We're having it renovated. Plan to spend 4 months a year there as a base. Rest of our time we'll split between the Gold Coast and Sydney, with side visits to rural areas we haven't seen yet.
I'm 'cured' of the UK. Nice memory, horrific reality. It's just a pimple on the bum of the US and greater Europe now. It contributed to its own demise. It wrecked itself whilst allowing itself to be trashed. The empire is gone. Huge sections of the population are unemployed with no hope in sight. The rest are hanging on by their teeth. Some are doing well, but they can take it with them anytime they decide to leave.
I only came back to these forums after receiving an email from the administrators. Came out of curiosity. Was appalled to see so many wallowing in self-pity. It's the same refusal to accept personal responsibility that's contributed so much to the ruin of the UK.
All you want to do, apparently, is complain and hand sympathy around to each other like a dirty hanky.
Yes, I can sympathise with you for being in a place you don't like.
What I will not do is agree with you when you claim someone else is responsible for being here (apart from those who did so to hold their marriage and family together).
You aren't going to improve your situation by blaming others.
Blame them for what -- your unhappiness.
You should know by now that it's up to you to either change your circumstances or -- if you're prevented from doing that -- then to try to find some happiness right now, where you are. The latter would assist your circumstances.
It's just occurred to me however that some of you would prefer to just continue whinging to improved circumstances.
Your life.
No wonder their offspring hang around those same shopping malls 24/7 when they get a bit older. For many of those children, UK shopping malls play the same role as 'community' and churches used to play; a 'centre' of people's lives.
Dirt everywhere. Crowds of mildly grumbling folk everywhere. All going somewhere and all looking depressed about it.
Crime. Incredible that only a decade or two ago, there were only a handful of shots fired in the entire British Isles.
Unemployment. Welfare. Council housing; more like pens in a zoo than communities.
Decent people afraid for their safety and that of their family. People avoiding entire towns and cities because of the ugliness and danger.
Drugs. What happened to the British 'spirit' ? What happened to the British regard for other's rights? What happened to the famed British sense of morality, decency, fair-play, altruism, etc?
The UK now is no different at all --- apart from the many grating, regional accents, than any ghetto or run-down area in the US.
The UK is under siege by migrants and asylum seekers from every pit on the planet. And it looks like it. It feels like it. It smells like it. It sounds like it.
The UK is also being eroded, literally, as we speak, by the ocean. Ireland, Scotland and Wales aren't all that interested in being 'united'. Canada and Australia will become republics. England will be lucky if it's not left a tiny spot on the map not much larger than Luxemburg but without any of the charm or glamour. UK as a respected world 'leader' is now just a laughing point.
Congested towns, cities and roadways. Former beauty spots now eyesores. Displaced US influence everywhere. People with something to protect looking over their shoulders anxiously. Poor England. Lardy women sporting flabby midriffs attempting to be 'young' again. Their lardy spouses and partners needing two bar stools to accomodate their girth at the local pub where they spend their welfare cheque. Their offspring dressed in imitation of Harlem negroes, their low jeans and bare backsides matched by their cheap looking sister's visible g-strings. All of them sounding like something from Little Britain, which is not so much satire as documentary.
We spent 41/2 months paying to see and hear all this. And left thankfully. Travelled from Milan to Bari. Then back up to Abruzzi, where my husband had inherited a house near Celano. We're having it renovated. Plan to spend 4 months a year there as a base. Rest of our time we'll split between the Gold Coast and Sydney, with side visits to rural areas we haven't seen yet.
I'm 'cured' of the UK. Nice memory, horrific reality. It's just a pimple on the bum of the US and greater Europe now. It contributed to its own demise. It wrecked itself whilst allowing itself to be trashed. The empire is gone. Huge sections of the population are unemployed with no hope in sight. The rest are hanging on by their teeth. Some are doing well, but they can take it with them anytime they decide to leave.
I only came back to these forums after receiving an email from the administrators. Came out of curiosity. Was appalled to see so many wallowing in self-pity. It's the same refusal to accept personal responsibility that's contributed so much to the ruin of the UK.
All you want to do, apparently, is complain and hand sympathy around to each other like a dirty hanky.
Yes, I can sympathise with you for being in a place you don't like.
What I will not do is agree with you when you claim someone else is responsible for being here (apart from those who did so to hold their marriage and family together).
You aren't going to improve your situation by blaming others.
Blame them for what -- your unhappiness.
You should know by now that it's up to you to either change your circumstances or -- if you're prevented from doing that -- then to try to find some happiness right now, where you are. The latter would assist your circumstances.
It's just occurred to me however that some of you would prefer to just continue whinging to improved circumstances.
Your life.
Drugs.. ICE epidemic in Australia... huge sections of unemployed? 
? unemployment is higher in AustraliaThe Empire has gone !!! Christ Almighty, just when was it when you left England?
Dec 18th 2006, 9:05 am
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Re: Interesting reading for those thinking of returning from Oz
This all sounds cathartic for you Lane....are you on the verge of a breakdown or something?
Dec 18th 2006, 9:06 am
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Re: Interesting reading for those thinking of returning from Oz
Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus
What on Earth are you on? Under siege from migrants and asylum seekers, unlike Australia of course Drugs.. ICE epidemic in Australia... huge sections of unemployed? ? unemployment is higher in Australia
The Empire has gone !!! Christ Almighty, just when was it when you left England?
Drugs.. ICE epidemic in Australia... huge sections of unemployed? ? unemployment is higher in AustraliaThe Empire has gone !!! Christ Almighty, just when was it when you left England?
tha knows you 'cud buy a suit, catch charabang t'flicks, get 15 stone of toffee and bullseyes and still have change from tuppence h'apenny. None of them foreigners around in my day, tha knows, twere full of proper folk
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Dec 18th 2006, 9:06 am
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Re: Interesting reading for those thinking of returning from Oz
Originally Posted by Grayling
This all sounds cathartic for you Lane....are you on the verge of a breakdown or something?
Dec 18th 2006, 9:08 am
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Re: Interesting reading for those thinking of returning from Oz
Originally Posted by FPM
1927 by the sound of it.
tha knows you 'cud buy a suit, catch charabang t'flicks, get 15 stone of toffee and bullseyes and still have from tuppence h'apenny. None of them foreigners around in my day, tha knows, twere full of proper folk
tha knows you 'cud buy a suit, catch charabang t'flicks, get 15 stone of toffee and bullseyes and still have from tuppence h'apenny. None of them foreigners around in my day, tha knows, twere full of proper folk
and still have the money for a couple of 
Dec 18th 2006, 9:10 am
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Re: Interesting reading for those thinking of returning from Oz
Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus
What on Earth are you on?
Have to say - what is all this about anger? There are a lot of us that are sad, depressed or bewildered, but "angry"? strange word to use
