Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
May 4th 2005, 12:30 pm
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Re: Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
On Wed, 04 May 2005 10:46:32 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
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>Only if the water used to make them is contaminated ... which might well
>be the case in a country that runs on superstition rather than science.
I wonder why Italy has a higher life expectancy than either the US or
France?
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>Only if the water used to make them is contaminated ... which might well
>be the case in a country that runs on superstition rather than science.
I wonder why Italy has a higher life expectancy than either the US or
France?
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May 4th 2005, 12:31 pm
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Re: Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
On Wed, 04 May 2005 14:21:37 +0200, Tom Peel
<[email protected]> wrote:
>nitram wrote:
>> On Tue, 03 May 2005 17:57:35 +0200, Tom Peel
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>nitram wrote:
>>>>On Tue, 03 May 2005 16:09:55 +0200, Tom Peel
>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>Now, the question is: why do Americans oppose the Kippdrehfenster?
>>>>>Not only do they not exist, there is not even a word in the English
>>>>>language to describe them AFAIF. The Kippdrehfenster is a double glazed
>>>>>window that can be either opened along the vertical hinge, like a door,
>>>>>or a along a hinge at the bottom, to tilt.
>>>>Did you ever get one in the intermediate position, where the whole
>>>>window tries to fall out?
>>> Having an inquiring mind, I did try it once... never again........
>>
>>
>> It was the first thing that convinced me that Germans weren't perfect
>> after all.
>I'm not German...
Nobody said you were.
<[email protected]> wrote:
>nitram wrote:
>> On Tue, 03 May 2005 17:57:35 +0200, Tom Peel
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>nitram wrote:
>>>>On Tue, 03 May 2005 16:09:55 +0200, Tom Peel
>>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>Now, the question is: why do Americans oppose the Kippdrehfenster?
>>>>>Not only do they not exist, there is not even a word in the English
>>>>>language to describe them AFAIF. The Kippdrehfenster is a double glazed
>>>>>window that can be either opened along the vertical hinge, like a door,
>>>>>or a along a hinge at the bottom, to tilt.
>>>>Did you ever get one in the intermediate position, where the whole
>>>>window tries to fall out?
>>> Having an inquiring mind, I did try it once... never again........
>>
>>
>> It was the first thing that convinced me that Germans weren't perfect
>> after all.
>I'm not German...
Nobody said you were.
May 4th 2005, 12:35 pm
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Re: Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
On Wed, 04 May 2005 14:24:20 +0200, Tom Peel
<[email protected]> wrote:
>B Vaughan wrote:
>> On Tue, 03 May 2005 14:46:40 GMT, "spamfree" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>Now, the question is: why do Americans oppose the Kippdrehfenster?
>>>Because it is impossible to use screens with them. Most Americans
>>>do not want flies, mosquitos, or moths inside the house.
>>>As I understand it, this window tilts in at the top or swings like a door
>>>outwards. If the window were designed to tilt in at the top or swing
>>>like a door *inward*, then a screen might be used on the outside.
>>
>>
>> The ones I've seen here in Italy open like a door inward or tilt
>> inward at the top.
>>
>So what are they called in Italian?
I just asked my husband; he calls them "windows".
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<[email protected]> wrote:
>B Vaughan wrote:
>> On Tue, 03 May 2005 14:46:40 GMT, "spamfree" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>Now, the question is: why do Americans oppose the Kippdrehfenster?
>>>Because it is impossible to use screens with them. Most Americans
>>>do not want flies, mosquitos, or moths inside the house.
>>>As I understand it, this window tilts in at the top or swings like a door
>>>outwards. If the window were designed to tilt in at the top or swing
>>>like a door *inward*, then a screen might be used on the outside.
>>
>>
>> The ones I've seen here in Italy open like a door inward or tilt
>> inward at the top.
>>
>So what are they called in Italian?
I just asked my husband; he calls them "windows".
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May 4th 2005, 12:35 pm
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Re: Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
On Wed, 04 May 2005 14:21:37 +0200, Tom Peel
<[email protected]> wrote:
>nitram wrote:
>> It was the first thing that convinced me that Germans weren't perfect
>> after all.
>I'm not German...
Are you perfect?
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<[email protected]> wrote:
>nitram wrote:
>> It was the first thing that convinced me that Germans weren't perfect
>> after all.
>I'm not German...
Are you perfect?
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May 4th 2005, 12:37 pm
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Re: Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
On Wed, 04 May 2005 14:30:51 +0200, B Vaughan wrote:
> On Wed, 04 May 2005 10:46:32 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>Only if the water used to make them is contaminated ... which might well
>>be the case in a country that runs on superstition rather than science.
>
> I wonder why Italy has a higher life expectancy than either the US or
> France?
Because mad, gun-wielding USAian maniacs can't creep in through a closed
Italian window and murder you in your beds. ;-)
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> On Wed, 04 May 2005 10:46:32 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>Only if the water used to make them is contaminated ... which might well
>>be the case in a country that runs on superstition rather than science.
>
> I wonder why Italy has a higher life expectancy than either the US or
> France?
Because mad, gun-wielding USAian maniacs can't creep in through a closed
Italian window and murder you in your beds. ;-)
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May 4th 2005, 12:39 pm
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On Wed, 04 May 2005 12:38:10 +0200, nitram wrote:
> On Wed, 4 May 2005 11:39:13 +0200, Tim Challenger
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 04 May 2005 11:31:42 +0200, nitram wrote:
>>> On Wed, 04 May 2005 11:08:09 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>nitram writes:
>>>>> This year so far we have managed 30 minutes of temperatures over
>>>>> 25DegC.
>>>>In Paris we've managed many hours of such temperatures, and normally
>>>>there should not have been any such extremes this early in the year.
>>>
>>> Despite which I have been in Paris several times in May, when the
>>> temperature has reached 25 degC, I think it's fairly normal.
>>It reached 29C on Monday down here, and was 27C over the weekend.
>
> Honeywell Thermostatic central heating control?
:-) The heating's off now. At last.
>>Tom Jones Syndrome.
>
> It's not unusual?
That's the one. :-)
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> On Wed, 4 May 2005 11:39:13 +0200, Tim Challenger
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 04 May 2005 11:31:42 +0200, nitram wrote:
>>> On Wed, 04 May 2005 11:08:09 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>nitram writes:
>>>>> This year so far we have managed 30 minutes of temperatures over
>>>>> 25DegC.
>>>>In Paris we've managed many hours of such temperatures, and normally
>>>>there should not have been any such extremes this early in the year.
>>>
>>> Despite which I have been in Paris several times in May, when the
>>> temperature has reached 25 degC, I think it's fairly normal.
>>It reached 29C on Monday down here, and was 27C over the weekend.
>
> Honeywell Thermostatic central heating control?
:-) The heating's off now. At last.
>>Tom Jones Syndrome.
>
> It's not unusual?
That's the one. :-)
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May 4th 2005, 12:43 pm
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Re: Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
On Wed, 4 May 2005 14:39:11 +0200, Tim Challenger
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Wed, 04 May 2005 12:38:10 +0200, nitram wrote:
>> On Wed, 4 May 2005 11:39:13 +0200, Tim Challenger
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 04 May 2005 11:31:42 +0200, nitram wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 04 May 2005 11:08:09 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>nitram writes:
>>>>>> This year so far we have managed 30 minutes of temperatures over
>>>>>> 25DegC.
>>>>>In Paris we've managed many hours of such temperatures, and normally
>>>>>there should not have been any such extremes this early in the year.
>>>>
>>>> Despite which I have been in Paris several times in May, when the
>>>> temperature has reached 25 degC, I think it's fairly normal.
>>>It reached 29C on Monday down here, and was 27C over the weekend.
>>
>> Honeywell Thermostatic central heating control?
>:-) The heating's off now. At last.
>>>Tom Jones Syndrome.
>>
>> It's not unusual?
>That's the one. :-)
John Travolta?
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Wed, 04 May 2005 12:38:10 +0200, nitram wrote:
>> On Wed, 4 May 2005 11:39:13 +0200, Tim Challenger
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 04 May 2005 11:31:42 +0200, nitram wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 04 May 2005 11:08:09 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>nitram writes:
>>>>>> This year so far we have managed 30 minutes of temperatures over
>>>>>> 25DegC.
>>>>>In Paris we've managed many hours of such temperatures, and normally
>>>>>there should not have been any such extremes this early in the year.
>>>>
>>>> Despite which I have been in Paris several times in May, when the
>>>> temperature has reached 25 degC, I think it's fairly normal.
>>>It reached 29C on Monday down here, and was 27C over the weekend.
>>
>> Honeywell Thermostatic central heating control?
>:-) The heating's off now. At last.
>>>Tom Jones Syndrome.
>>
>> It's not unusual?
>That's the one. :-)
John Travolta?
May 4th 2005, 12:57 pm
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Re: Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
On Wed, 4 May 2005 11:39:13 +0200, Tim Challenger
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Wed, 04 May 2005 11:31:42 +0200, nitram wrote:
>> On Wed, 04 May 2005 11:08:09 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>nitram writes:
>>>> This year so far we have managed 30 minutes of temperatures over
>>>> 25DegC.
>>>In Paris we've managed many hours of such temperatures, and normally
>>>there should not have been any such extremes this early in the year.
>>
>> Despite which I have been in Paris several times in May, when the
>> temperature has reached 25 degC, I think it's fairly normal.
>It reached 29C on Monday down here, and was 27C over the weekend.
>Tom Jones Syndrome.
Everything's relative. Acclimatisation.
Chilly here today; pissing down rain and it's down to 25C.
Had to put the blanket on last night - got down to 15C.
Winter starts next month. Cold nights then - gets down to
10C in August, but the days are always in the high teens or
low twenties.
In summer, warm is over 30. Hot is over 35. Bloody hot is
over 40.
Cheers, Alan, Australia
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Wed, 04 May 2005 11:31:42 +0200, nitram wrote:
>> On Wed, 04 May 2005 11:08:09 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>nitram writes:
>>>> This year so far we have managed 30 minutes of temperatures over
>>>> 25DegC.
>>>In Paris we've managed many hours of such temperatures, and normally
>>>there should not have been any such extremes this early in the year.
>>
>> Despite which I have been in Paris several times in May, when the
>> temperature has reached 25 degC, I think it's fairly normal.
>It reached 29C on Monday down here, and was 27C over the weekend.
>Tom Jones Syndrome.
Everything's relative. Acclimatisation.
Chilly here today; pissing down rain and it's down to 25C.
Had to put the blanket on last night - got down to 15C.
Winter starts next month. Cold nights then - gets down to
10C in August, but the days are always in the high teens or
low twenties.
In summer, warm is over 30. Hot is over 35. Bloody hot is
over 40.
Cheers, Alan, Australia
May 4th 2005, 1:01 pm
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Re: Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
On Wed, 4 May 2005 14:37:03 +0200, Tim Challenger
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Wed, 04 May 2005 14:30:51 +0200, B Vaughan wrote:
>> On Wed, 04 May 2005 10:46:32 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Only if the water used to make them is contaminated ... which might well
>>>be the case in a country that runs on superstition rather than science.
>>
>> I wonder why Italy has a higher life expectancy than either the US or
>> France?
>Because mad, gun-wielding USAian maniacs can't creep in through a closed
>Italian window and murder you in your beds. ;-)
and in France?
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Wed, 04 May 2005 14:30:51 +0200, B Vaughan wrote:
>> On Wed, 04 May 2005 10:46:32 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Only if the water used to make them is contaminated ... which might well
>>>be the case in a country that runs on superstition rather than science.
>>
>> I wonder why Italy has a higher life expectancy than either the US or
>> France?
>Because mad, gun-wielding USAian maniacs can't creep in through a closed
>Italian window and murder you in your beds. ;-)
and in France?
May 4th 2005, 1:12 pm
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Re: Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
On Wed, 04 May 2005 02:49:16 GMT, Gregory Morrow wrote:
> Europeans by and large aren't interested in taking a few easy steps to
> improve their lot, ...
Because it's not seen as a bettering of one's life?
Because they're expensive and using an insecticide plug at night is easier?
> you'll never see window screens in Europe.
You walk around with your eyes closed?
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> Europeans by and large aren't interested in taking a few easy steps to
> improve their lot, ...
Because it's not seen as a bettering of one's life?
Because they're expensive and using an insecticide plug at night is easier?
> you'll never see window screens in Europe.
You walk around with your eyes closed?
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May 4th 2005, 1:23 pm
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Re: Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
On Wed, 4 May 2005 15:12:57 +0200, Tim Challenger
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Wed, 04 May 2005 02:49:16 GMT, Gregory Morrow wrote:
>> Europeans by and large aren't interested in taking a few easy steps to
>> improve their lot, ...
>Because it's not seen as a bettering of one's life?
>Because they're expensive and using an insecticide plug at night is easier?
>> you'll never see window screens in Europe.
>You walk around with your eyes closed?
or uses Linux?
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Wed, 04 May 2005 02:49:16 GMT, Gregory Morrow wrote:
>> Europeans by and large aren't interested in taking a few easy steps to
>> improve their lot, ...
>Because it's not seen as a bettering of one's life?
>Because they're expensive and using an insecticide plug at night is easier?
>> you'll never see window screens in Europe.
>You walk around with your eyes closed?
or uses Linux?
May 4th 2005, 1:35 pm
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Deep Foiled Malls wrote:
> On Wed, 04 May 2005 02:49:16 GMT, "Gregory Morrow"
> <gregorymorrowEMERGENCYCANCELLATIONARCHIMEDES@eart hlink.net> wrote:
> >> I'm sure screens can be made in varous sizes, even for Eurpean-sized
> >> windows.
> >
> >
> >Europeans by and large aren't interested in taking a few easy steps to
> >improve their lot, you'll never see window screens in Europe. They would
> >never do something so practical.
> Anyone gonna bite?
You *know* that this subject (climate control, a/c...) is an evergreeen
around here DFM...thought I'd get things started a bit early this year :-)
> Good to have you around, Greg!
;---p
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> On Wed, 04 May 2005 02:49:16 GMT, "Gregory Morrow"
> <gregorymorrowEMERGENCYCANCELLATIONARCHIMEDES@eart hlink.net> wrote:
> >> I'm sure screens can be made in varous sizes, even for Eurpean-sized
> >> windows.
> >
> >
> >Europeans by and large aren't interested in taking a few easy steps to
> >improve their lot, you'll never see window screens in Europe. They would
> >never do something so practical.
> Anyone gonna bite?
You *know* that this subject (climate control, a/c...) is an evergreeen
around here DFM...thought I'd get things started a bit early this year :-)
> Good to have you around, Greg!
;---p
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May 4th 2005, 1:35 pm
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Re: Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
On Wed, 04 May 2005 15:01:31 +0200, nitram wrote:
> On Wed, 4 May 2005 14:37:03 +0200, Tim Challenger
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 04 May 2005 14:30:51 +0200, B Vaughan wrote:
>>> On Wed, 04 May 2005 10:46:32 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Only if the water used to make them is contaminated ... which might well
>>>>be the case in a country that runs on superstition rather than science.
>>>
>>> I wonder why Italy has a higher life expectancy than either the US or
>>> France?
>>Because mad, gun-wielding USAian maniacs can't creep in through a closed
>>Italian window and murder you in your beds. ;-)
>
> and in France?
Just the way they drive in Paris alone is enough to lower the nation's life
expectancy. ;-)
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> On Wed, 4 May 2005 14:37:03 +0200, Tim Challenger
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 04 May 2005 14:30:51 +0200, B Vaughan wrote:
>>> On Wed, 04 May 2005 10:46:32 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Only if the water used to make them is contaminated ... which might well
>>>>be the case in a country that runs on superstition rather than science.
>>>
>>> I wonder why Italy has a higher life expectancy than either the US or
>>> France?
>>Because mad, gun-wielding USAian maniacs can't creep in through a closed
>>Italian window and murder you in your beds. ;-)
>
> and in France?
Just the way they drive in Paris alone is enough to lower the nation's life
expectancy. ;-)
--
Tim C.
May 4th 2005, 1:36 pm
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Tom Peel wrote:
> B Vaughan wrote:
> > On Tue, 03 May 2005 14:46:40 GMT, "spamfree" <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >>>Now, the question is: why do Americans oppose the Kippdrehfenster?
> >>
> >>Because it is impossible to use screens with them. Most Americans
> >>do not want flies, mosquitos, or moths inside the house.
> >>
> >>As I understand it, this window tilts in at the top or swings like a
door
> >>outwards. If the window were designed to tilt in at the top or swing
> >>like a door *inward*, then a screen might be used on the outside.
> >
> >
> > The ones I've seen here in Italy open like a door inward or tilt
> > inward at the top.
> >
> So what are they called in Italian?
"Night Air Demon Deflectors"
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> B Vaughan wrote:
> > On Tue, 03 May 2005 14:46:40 GMT, "spamfree" <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >>>Now, the question is: why do Americans oppose the Kippdrehfenster?
> >>
> >>Because it is impossible to use screens with them. Most Americans
> >>do not want flies, mosquitos, or moths inside the house.
> >>
> >>As I understand it, this window tilts in at the top or swings like a
door
> >>outwards. If the window were designed to tilt in at the top or swing
> >>like a door *inward*, then a screen might be used on the outside.
> >
> >
> > The ones I've seen here in Italy open like a door inward or tilt
> > inward at the top.
> >
> So what are they called in Italian?
"Night Air Demon Deflectors"
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Greg
May 4th 2005, 1:37 pm
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Re: Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
On Wed, 4 May 2005 15:35:48 +0200, Tim Challenger
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Wed, 04 May 2005 15:01:31 +0200, nitram wrote:
>> On Wed, 4 May 2005 14:37:03 +0200, Tim Challenger
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 04 May 2005 14:30:51 +0200, B Vaughan wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 04 May 2005 10:46:32 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Only if the water used to make them is contaminated ... which might well
>>>>>be the case in a country that runs on superstition rather than science.
>>>>
>>>> I wonder why Italy has a higher life expectancy than either the US or
>>>> France?
>>>Because mad, gun-wielding USAian maniacs can't creep in through a closed
>>>Italian window and murder you in your beds. ;-)
>>
>> and in France?
>Just the way they drive in Paris alone is enough to lower the nation's life
>expectancy. ;-)
Parts of UK are as bad.
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Wed, 04 May 2005 15:01:31 +0200, nitram wrote:
>> On Wed, 4 May 2005 14:37:03 +0200, Tim Challenger
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 04 May 2005 14:30:51 +0200, B Vaughan wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 04 May 2005 10:46:32 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Only if the water used to make them is contaminated ... which might well
>>>>>be the case in a country that runs on superstition rather than science.
>>>>
>>>> I wonder why Italy has a higher life expectancy than either the US or
>>>> France?
>>>Because mad, gun-wielding USAian maniacs can't creep in through a closed
>>>Italian window and murder you in your beds. ;-)
>>
>> and in France?
>Just the way they drive in Paris alone is enough to lower the nation's life
>expectancy. ;-)
Parts of UK are as bad.