Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
May 4th 2005, 9:39 am
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Re: Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
On Wed, 04 May 2005 11:31:42 +0200, nitram wrote:
> On Wed, 04 May 2005 11:08:09 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>nitram writes:
>>> This year so far we have managed 30 minutes of temperatures over
>>> 25DegC.
>>In Paris we've managed many hours of such temperatures, and normally
>>there should not have been any such extremes this early in the year.
>
> Despite which I have been in Paris several times in May, when the
> temperature has reached 25 degC, I think it's fairly normal.
It reached 29C on Monday down here, and was 27C over the weekend.
Tom Jones Syndrome.
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Tim C.
> On Wed, 04 May 2005 11:08:09 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>nitram writes:
>>> This year so far we have managed 30 minutes of temperatures over
>>> 25DegC.
>>In Paris we've managed many hours of such temperatures, and normally
>>there should not have been any such extremes this early in the year.
>
> Despite which I have been in Paris several times in May, when the
> temperature has reached 25 degC, I think it's fairly normal.
It reached 29C on Monday down here, and was 27C over the weekend.
Tom Jones Syndrome.
--
Tim C.
May 4th 2005, 9:41 am
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Re: Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
Mxsmanic wrote:
> Gregory Morrow writes:
>
> Believe it or not, in Paris, even the brand-new George Pompidou hospital
> was designed _without_ air conditioning! Temperatures there soared past
> 40° C in the heat wave, and there was nothing that could be done; the
> building can't even be easily retrofitted for A/C. Staff had to rotate
> patients in and out of operating rooms (the only rooms in the building
> with refrigeration) in order to keep them from developing heatstroke.
>
>
How could they predict that a Northern city like Paris will get so
hot? Global warming is caused by America, after all, not by France.
>
>
>>Heck, even a supposedly First World country like France doesn't have AC in
>>it's hospitals...
>
Nonsense. The University Hospital in Bordeaux had air-conditioning
in 1988, when I was a patient there.
> Gregory Morrow writes:
>
> Believe it or not, in Paris, even the brand-new George Pompidou hospital
> was designed _without_ air conditioning! Temperatures there soared past
> 40° C in the heat wave, and there was nothing that could be done; the
> building can't even be easily retrofitted for A/C. Staff had to rotate
> patients in and out of operating rooms (the only rooms in the building
> with refrigeration) in order to keep them from developing heatstroke.
>
>
How could they predict that a Northern city like Paris will get so
hot? Global warming is caused by America, after all, not by France.
>
>
>>Heck, even a supposedly First World country like France doesn't have AC in
>>it's hospitals...
>
Nonsense. The University Hospital in Bordeaux had air-conditioning
in 1988, when I was a patient there.
May 4th 2005, 9:55 am
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Re: Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
On Wed, 4 May 2005 11:31:17 +0200, Tim Challenger
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Wed, 04 May 2005 09:45:02 +0200, nitram wrote:
>> On Wed, 4 May 2005 09:39:52 +0200, Tim Challenger
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 03 May 2005 14:46:40 GMT, spamfree wrote:
>>>> As I understand it, this window tilts in at the top or swings like a door
>>>> outwards.
>>>Inwards.
>>
>> swings in and falls outwards :-)
>Falls inwards on top of you.
Not on top of me. The one I had problems with was hanging by one
corner above a drunk, who was comatose in a court yard 3 floors below.
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Wed, 04 May 2005 09:45:02 +0200, nitram wrote:
>> On Wed, 4 May 2005 09:39:52 +0200, Tim Challenger
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 03 May 2005 14:46:40 GMT, spamfree wrote:
>>>> As I understand it, this window tilts in at the top or swings like a door
>>>> outwards.
>>>Inwards.
>>
>> swings in and falls outwards :-)
>Falls inwards on top of you.
Not on top of me. The one I had problems with was hanging by one
corner above a drunk, who was comatose in a court yard 3 floors below.
May 4th 2005, 9:57 am
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Re: Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
On Wed, 4 May 2005 11:37:24 +0200, Tim Challenger
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Wed, 04 May 2005 11:33:11 +0200, nitram wrote:
>> On Wed, 4 May 2005 10:22:41 +0100, "Keith W"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected] ...
>>>> Gregory Morrow writes:
>>>>> I guess that Europeans: a)
>>>>> prefer to remain living in a primitive state, b) are not very
>>>>> entrepreneurial...
>>>> The entrepreneurial and technology-oriented ones moved to the U.S.
>>>Explain how that fits in with the start of the Industrial revolution
>>>being in the UK and the minor fact that the train and motor car
>>>were introduced into Europe before the USA.
>>><snip>
>>> As I've indicated above, I think this is because the U.S. was populated
>>>> by waves of European immigrants who did not fear adventure and change;
>>>You returned to Europe.
>>>What lesson should we learn from that I wonder ?
>>
>> LOL Eugenics?
>:)
>Ten years ago it would have been Eecgenics?
Not bad for a wet Wednesday :-)
and better than the crap Mixi has been posting.
EECrythmics, anybody?
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Wed, 04 May 2005 11:33:11 +0200, nitram wrote:
>> On Wed, 4 May 2005 10:22:41 +0100, "Keith W"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected] ...
>>>> Gregory Morrow writes:
>>>>> I guess that Europeans: a)
>>>>> prefer to remain living in a primitive state, b) are not very
>>>>> entrepreneurial...
>>>> The entrepreneurial and technology-oriented ones moved to the U.S.
>>>Explain how that fits in with the start of the Industrial revolution
>>>being in the UK and the minor fact that the train and motor car
>>>were introduced into Europe before the USA.
>>><snip>
>>> As I've indicated above, I think this is because the U.S. was populated
>>>> by waves of European immigrants who did not fear adventure and change;
>>>You returned to Europe.
>>>What lesson should we learn from that I wonder ?
>>
>> LOL Eugenics?
>:)
>Ten years ago it would have been Eecgenics?
Not bad for a wet Wednesday :-)
and better than the crap Mixi has been posting.
EECrythmics, anybody?
May 4th 2005, 10:28 am
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Re: Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
Gregory Morrow
<gregorymorrowEMERGENCYCANCELLATIONARCHIMEDES@eart hlink.net> wrote:
> If it wasn't for US innovations Europeans would
> probably still be using gaslight, driving around in horse carriages,
When you can run a decent high-speed railway, please call back.
Meanwhile don't be suprised if you get "busy tone" every time you talk
so arroganlty about Europeans...
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<gregorymorrowEMERGENCYCANCELLATIONARCHIMEDES@eart hlink.net> wrote:
> If it wasn't for US innovations Europeans would
> probably still be using gaslight, driving around in horse carriages,
When you can run a decent high-speed railway, please call back.
Meanwhile don't be suprised if you get "busy tone" every time you talk
so arroganlty about Europeans...
--
inversez "kertanguy" et "de" pour me joindre
May 4th 2005, 10:28 am
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Re: Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
> Believe it or not, in Paris, even the brand-new George Pompidou hospital
> was designed _without_ air conditioning! Temperatures there soared past
> 40° C in the heat wave, and there was nothing that could be done; the
> building can't even be easily retrofitted for A/C. Staff had to rotate
> patients in and out of operating rooms (the only rooms in the building
> with refrigeration) in order to keep them from developing heatstroke.
1/ There's a S in Georges, it's not an American name here...
2/ There are *major* faults in the design of the HEGP but lack of airco
is certainly not the worst one.
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> Believe it or not, in Paris, even the brand-new George Pompidou hospital
> was designed _without_ air conditioning! Temperatures there soared past
> 40° C in the heat wave, and there was nothing that could be done; the
> building can't even be easily retrofitted for A/C. Staff had to rotate
> patients in and out of operating rooms (the only rooms in the building
> with refrigeration) in order to keep them from developing heatstroke.
1/ There's a S in Georges, it's not an American name here...
2/ There are *major* faults in the design of the HEGP but lack of airco
is certainly not the worst one.
--
inversez "kertanguy" et "de" pour me joindre
May 4th 2005, 10:38 am
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Re: Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
On Wed, 4 May 2005 11:39:13 +0200, Tim Challenger
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Wed, 04 May 2005 11:31:42 +0200, nitram wrote:
>> On Wed, 04 May 2005 11:08:09 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>nitram writes:
>>>> This year so far we have managed 30 minutes of temperatures over
>>>> 25DegC.
>>>In Paris we've managed many hours of such temperatures, and normally
>>>there should not have been any such extremes this early in the year.
>>
>> Despite which I have been in Paris several times in May, when the
>> temperature has reached 25 degC, I think it's fairly normal.
>It reached 29C on Monday down here, and was 27C over the weekend.
Honeywell Thermostatic central heating control?
>Tom Jones Syndrome.
It's not unusual?
or
The green, green grass of home needs cutting?
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Wed, 04 May 2005 11:31:42 +0200, nitram wrote:
>> On Wed, 04 May 2005 11:08:09 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>nitram writes:
>>>> This year so far we have managed 30 minutes of temperatures over
>>>> 25DegC.
>>>In Paris we've managed many hours of such temperatures, and normally
>>>there should not have been any such extremes this early in the year.
>>
>> Despite which I have been in Paris several times in May, when the
>> temperature has reached 25 degC, I think it's fairly normal.
>It reached 29C on Monday down here, and was 27C over the weekend.
Honeywell Thermostatic central heating control?
>Tom Jones Syndrome.
It's not unusual?
or
The green, green grass of home needs cutting?
May 4th 2005, 10:40 am
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Re: Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
On Wed, 04 May 2005 11:55:09 +0200, nitram wrote:
> On Wed, 4 May 2005 11:31:17 +0200, Tim Challenger
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 04 May 2005 09:45:02 +0200, nitram wrote:
>>> On Wed, 4 May 2005 09:39:52 +0200, Tim Challenger
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Tue, 03 May 2005 14:46:40 GMT, spamfree wrote:
>>>>> As I understand it, this window tilts in at the top or swings like a door
>>>>> outwards.
>>>>Inwards.
>>>
>>> swings in and falls outwards :-)
>>Falls inwards on top of you.
>
> Not on top of me. The one I had problems with was hanging by one
> corner above a drunk, who was comatose in a court yard 3 floors below.
Ah. oops!
--
Tim C.
> On Wed, 4 May 2005 11:31:17 +0200, Tim Challenger
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 04 May 2005 09:45:02 +0200, nitram wrote:
>>> On Wed, 4 May 2005 09:39:52 +0200, Tim Challenger
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Tue, 03 May 2005 14:46:40 GMT, spamfree wrote:
>>>>> As I understand it, this window tilts in at the top or swings like a door
>>>>> outwards.
>>>>Inwards.
>>>
>>> swings in and falls outwards :-)
>>Falls inwards on top of you.
>
> Not on top of me. The one I had problems with was hanging by one
> corner above a drunk, who was comatose in a court yard 3 floors below.
Ah. oops!
--
Tim C.
May 4th 2005, 10:42 am
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Re: Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
On Wed, 4 May 2005 12:28:52 +0200, [email protected]
(Stanislas de Kertanguy) wrote:
>Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Believe it or not, in Paris, even the brand-new George Pompidou hospital
>> was designed _without_ air conditioning! Temperatures there soared past
>> 40° C in the heat wave, and there was nothing that could be done; the
>> building can't even be easily retrofitted for A/C. Staff had to rotate
>> patients in and out of operating rooms (the only rooms in the building
>> with refrigeration) in order to keep them from developing heatstroke.
>1/ There's a S in Georges, it's not an American name here...
>2/ There are *major* faults in the design of the HEGP but lack of airco
>is certainly not the worst one.
Closed circuit hospital air conditioning is a good way to propagate
disease.
(Stanislas de Kertanguy) wrote:
>Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Believe it or not, in Paris, even the brand-new George Pompidou hospital
>> was designed _without_ air conditioning! Temperatures there soared past
>> 40° C in the heat wave, and there was nothing that could be done; the
>> building can't even be easily retrofitted for A/C. Staff had to rotate
>> patients in and out of operating rooms (the only rooms in the building
>> with refrigeration) in order to keep them from developing heatstroke.
>1/ There's a S in Georges, it's not an American name here...
>2/ There are *major* faults in the design of the HEGP but lack of airco
>is certainly not the worst one.
Closed circuit hospital air conditioning is a good way to propagate
disease.
May 4th 2005, 10:43 am
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Re: Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
On Wed, 04 May 2005 03:47:18 -0500, Elko Tchernev
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Gregory Morrow wrote:
>>
>> Europeans by and large aren't interested in taking a few easy steps to
>> improve their lot, you'll never see window screens in Europe. They would
>> never do something so practical.
>>
> Nice try, bush hole.
It showed how ignorant he is about Europe.
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Gregory Morrow wrote:
>>
>> Europeans by and large aren't interested in taking a few easy steps to
>> improve their lot, you'll never see window screens in Europe. They would
>> never do something so practical.
>>
> Nice try, bush hole.
It showed how ignorant he is about Europe.
May 4th 2005, 10:44 am
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On Wed, 04 May 2005 11:57:12 +0200, nitram wrote:
> On Wed, 4 May 2005 11:37:24 +0200, Tim Challenger
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 04 May 2005 11:33:11 +0200, nitram wrote:
>>> On Wed, 4 May 2005 10:22:41 +0100, "Keith W"
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>news:[email protected] m...
>>>>> Gregory Morrow writes:
>>>>>> I guess that Europeans: a)
>>>>>> prefer to remain living in a primitive state, b) are not very
>>>>>> entrepreneurial...
>>>>> The entrepreneurial and technology-oriented ones moved to the U.S.
>>>>Explain how that fits in with the start of the Industrial revolution
>>>>being in the UK and the minor fact that the train and motor car
>>>>were introduced into Europe before the USA.
>>>><snip>
>>>> As I've indicated above, I think this is because the U.S. was populated
>>>>> by waves of European immigrants who did not fear adventure and change;
>>>>You returned to Europe.
>>>>What lesson should we learn from that I wonder ?
>>>
>>> LOL Eugenics?
>>:)
>>Ten years ago it would have been Eecgenics?
>
> Not bad for a wet Wednesday :-)
>
> and better than the crap Mixi has been posting.
>
> EECrythmics, anybody?
It's Alright (Baby's Coming Back) ???
--
Tim C.
> On Wed, 4 May 2005 11:37:24 +0200, Tim Challenger
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 04 May 2005 11:33:11 +0200, nitram wrote:
>>> On Wed, 4 May 2005 10:22:41 +0100, "Keith W"
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Mxsmanic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>news:[email protected] m...
>>>>> Gregory Morrow writes:
>>>>>> I guess that Europeans: a)
>>>>>> prefer to remain living in a primitive state, b) are not very
>>>>>> entrepreneurial...
>>>>> The entrepreneurial and technology-oriented ones moved to the U.S.
>>>>Explain how that fits in with the start of the Industrial revolution
>>>>being in the UK and the minor fact that the train and motor car
>>>>were introduced into Europe before the USA.
>>>><snip>
>>>> As I've indicated above, I think this is because the U.S. was populated
>>>>> by waves of European immigrants who did not fear adventure and change;
>>>>You returned to Europe.
>>>>What lesson should we learn from that I wonder ?
>>>
>>> LOL Eugenics?
>>:)
>>Ten years ago it would have been Eecgenics?
>
> Not bad for a wet Wednesday :-)
>
> and better than the crap Mixi has been posting.
>
> EECrythmics, anybody?
It's Alright (Baby's Coming Back) ???
--
Tim C.
May 4th 2005, 10:44 am
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Re: Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
On Wed, 04 May 2005 04:41:46 -0500, Elko Tchernev wrote:
> Mxsmanic wrote:
>> Gregory Morrow writes:
>>
>> Believe it or not, in Paris, even the brand-new George Pompidou hospital
>> was designed _without_ air conditioning! Temperatures there soared past
>> 40° C in the heat wave, and there was nothing that could be done; the
>> building can't even be easily retrofitted for A/C. Staff had to rotate
>> patients in and out of operating rooms (the only rooms in the building
>> with refrigeration) in order to keep them from developing heatstroke.
>>
> How could they predict that a Northern city like Paris will get so
> hot? Global warming is caused by America, after all, not by France.
LOL!
--
Tim C.
> Mxsmanic wrote:
>> Gregory Morrow writes:
>>
>> Believe it or not, in Paris, even the brand-new George Pompidou hospital
>> was designed _without_ air conditioning! Temperatures there soared past
>> 40° C in the heat wave, and there was nothing that could be done; the
>> building can't even be easily retrofitted for A/C. Staff had to rotate
>> patients in and out of operating rooms (the only rooms in the building
>> with refrigeration) in order to keep them from developing heatstroke.
>>
> How could they predict that a Northern city like Paris will get so
> hot? Global warming is caused by America, after all, not by France.
LOL!
--
Tim C.
May 4th 2005, 12:21 pm
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Re: Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
nitram wrote:
> On Tue, 03 May 2005 17:57:35 +0200, Tom Peel
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>nitram wrote:
>>>On Tue, 03 May 2005 16:09:55 +0200, Tom Peel
>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>Now, the question is: why do Americans oppose the Kippdrehfenster?
>>>>Not only do they not exist, there is not even a word in the English
>>>>language to describe them AFAIF. The Kippdrehfenster is a double glazed
>>>>window that can be either opened along the vertical hinge, like a door,
>>>>or a along a hinge at the bottom, to tilt.
>>>Did you ever get one in the intermediate position, where the whole
>>>window tries to fall out?
>> Having an inquiring mind, I did try it once... never again........
>
>
> It was the first thing that convinced me that Germans weren't perfect
> after all.
I'm not German...
> On Tue, 03 May 2005 17:57:35 +0200, Tom Peel
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>nitram wrote:
>>>On Tue, 03 May 2005 16:09:55 +0200, Tom Peel
>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>Now, the question is: why do Americans oppose the Kippdrehfenster?
>>>>Not only do they not exist, there is not even a word in the English
>>>>language to describe them AFAIF. The Kippdrehfenster is a double glazed
>>>>window that can be either opened along the vertical hinge, like a door,
>>>>or a along a hinge at the bottom, to tilt.
>>>Did you ever get one in the intermediate position, where the whole
>>>window tries to fall out?
>> Having an inquiring mind, I did try it once... never again........
>
>
> It was the first thing that convinced me that Germans weren't perfect
> after all.
I'm not German...
May 4th 2005, 12:23 pm
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Tim Challenger wrote:
> On Wed, 04 May 2005 09:44:31 +0200, nitram wrote:
>
>
>>On Wed, 4 May 2005 09:39:25 +0200, Tim Challenger
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>On Wed, 04 May 2005 02:52:14 GMT, Gregory Morrow wrote:
>>>>Tom Peel wrote:
>>>>>Bert Hyman wrote:
>>>>>>[email protected] (Tom Peel) wrote in
>>>>>>news:[email protected]:
>>>>>>>Now, the question is: why do Americans oppose the Kippdrehfenster?
>>>>>>>Not only do they not exist, there is not even a word in the English
>>>>>>>language to describe them AFAIF. The Kippdrehfenster is a double
>>>>>>>glazed window that can be either opened along the vertical hinge,
>>>>>>>like a door, or a along a hinge at the bottom, to tilt.
>>>>>>You mean like these?
>>>>http://homeowner.marvin.com/products...1D9EAD13661B2F
>>>>>OK - they have heard of them in Minneapolis - isn't half the population
>>>>>originally German?
>>>>Believe it or not even those rustic Minnesotans have moved on to more
>>>>practical solutions such as central heating, central air conditioning, and
>>>>window screens for their climate control needs.
>>>They don't have windows that open?
>>You can't recirculate the air ten times, if you have windows that
>>open.
>
>
> Then you don't need flyscreens either. :-)
Bingo!
> On Wed, 04 May 2005 09:44:31 +0200, nitram wrote:
>
>
>>On Wed, 4 May 2005 09:39:25 +0200, Tim Challenger
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>On Wed, 04 May 2005 02:52:14 GMT, Gregory Morrow wrote:
>>>>Tom Peel wrote:
>>>>>Bert Hyman wrote:
>>>>>>[email protected] (Tom Peel) wrote in
>>>>>>news:[email protected]:
>>>>>>>Now, the question is: why do Americans oppose the Kippdrehfenster?
>>>>>>>Not only do they not exist, there is not even a word in the English
>>>>>>>language to describe them AFAIF. The Kippdrehfenster is a double
>>>>>>>glazed window that can be either opened along the vertical hinge,
>>>>>>>like a door, or a along a hinge at the bottom, to tilt.
>>>>>>You mean like these?
>>>>http://homeowner.marvin.com/products...1D9EAD13661B2F
>>>>>OK - they have heard of them in Minneapolis - isn't half the population
>>>>>originally German?
>>>>Believe it or not even those rustic Minnesotans have moved on to more
>>>>practical solutions such as central heating, central air conditioning, and
>>>>window screens for their climate control needs.
>>>They don't have windows that open?
>>You can't recirculate the air ten times, if you have windows that
>>open.
>
>
> Then you don't need flyscreens either. :-)
Bingo!
May 4th 2005, 12:24 pm
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Re: Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
B Vaughan wrote:
> On Tue, 03 May 2005 14:46:40 GMT, "spamfree" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>>>Now, the question is: why do Americans oppose the Kippdrehfenster?
>>Because it is impossible to use screens with them. Most Americans
>>do not want flies, mosquitos, or moths inside the house.
>>As I understand it, this window tilts in at the top or swings like a door
>>outwards. If the window were designed to tilt in at the top or swing
>>like a door *inward*, then a screen might be used on the outside.
>
>
> The ones I've seen here in Italy open like a door inward or tilt
> inward at the top.
>
So what are they called in Italian?
> On Tue, 03 May 2005 14:46:40 GMT, "spamfree" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>>>Now, the question is: why do Americans oppose the Kippdrehfenster?
>>Because it is impossible to use screens with them. Most Americans
>>do not want flies, mosquitos, or moths inside the house.
>>As I understand it, this window tilts in at the top or swings like a door
>>outwards. If the window were designed to tilt in at the top or swing
>>like a door *inward*, then a screen might be used on the outside.
>
>
> The ones I've seen here in Italy open like a door inward or tilt
> inward at the top.
>
So what are they called in Italian?