Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
May 4th 2005, 9:11 pm
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Re: Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
Deep Foiled Malls writes:
> What actions?
Their constant imitation of American ways, and their eager importing of
American customs and culture.
At any given time here in Paris, most of the movies at the cinemas are
American, and a great many of the television shows are either from the
United States, or copied directly from U.S. shows under license. Music,
too, tends to be either imported from abroad (usually the U.S.) or
copied from American music.
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> What actions?
Their constant imitation of American ways, and their eager importing of
American customs and culture.
At any given time here in Paris, most of the movies at the cinemas are
American, and a great many of the television shows are either from the
United States, or copied directly from U.S. shows under license. Music,
too, tends to be either imported from abroad (usually the U.S.) or
copied from American music.
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May 4th 2005, 9:12 pm
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Re: Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
nitram writes:
> The one where the top peeled back and fell off ...
That was a 737; the plane landed safely. I don't recall if anyone was
hurt (a FA might have been sucked out, I'm not sure).
> ... the one where the hatch blew out ...
I think that was a DC-10, which was not a Boeing aircraft.
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> The one where the top peeled back and fell off ...
That was a 737; the plane landed safely. I don't recall if anyone was
hurt (a FA might have been sucked out, I'm not sure).
> ... the one where the hatch blew out ...
I think that was a DC-10, which was not a Boeing aircraft.
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May 4th 2005, 9:14 pm
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Re: Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
The Reids writes:
> ROFL, have you been to Italy yet?
No.
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> ROFL, have you been to Italy yet?
No.
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May 4th 2005, 9:16 pm
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Re: Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
poldy writes:
> 25 degrees Celcius is extreme?
It's 14 degrees above normal, which is extreme.
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> 25 degrees Celcius is extreme?
It's 14 degrees above normal, which is extreme.
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May 4th 2005, 9:17 pm
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Re: Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
Keith W writes:
> They rebuilt my knee rather expertly and didnt even send me a bill.
Perhaps that explains why they can't afford air conditioning.
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> They rebuilt my knee rather expertly and didnt even send me a bill.
Perhaps that explains why they can't afford air conditioning.
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May 4th 2005, 9:18 pm
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Re: Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
Jens Arne Maennig writes:
> There's a little problem: The solution you are proposing is not legal
> (and by the way not realistic).
Last I checked, there was no One World Government that made things
universally legal or illegal.
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> There's a little problem: The solution you are proposing is not legal
> (and by the way not realistic).
Last I checked, there was no One World Government that made things
universally legal or illegal.
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May 4th 2005, 9:26 pm
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Re: Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
poldy writes:
> ... even gave the Chinese the rights to the technology. All
> in hopes of getting future projects.
Then they must be stupid. If they gave the technology to the Chinese,
why would the Chinese give them any future projects? They can just
build it all themselves.
> TGV from Paris to Nice is about 9 hours.
No, it is 5.5 hours.
A trip by air will take about the same amount of time, door to door.
Remember that there's no waiting on the train, and the travel is from
city center to city center. On the plane, you have to drive 20 km out
of town to get to the airport, arrive 1 hour in advance, wait 30 minutes
to board, wait another 30 minutes for flight delays, spend 45 minutes in
the air, wait 30 minutes to deplane and get your luggage, wait 10
minutes for a taxi, then spend another hour getting into town from the
airport. So the shortest possible trip by air is still just under five
hours in the best of conditions.
This is why the TGV does so well. For trips of less than 1000 km or so,
it's faster and easier.
> Until you get to Provence, there's not much great scenery.
Provence is the worst part. At least most of the rest is green.
> It cost the same as a flight but takes up the better part of the day.
A trip to Nice will take an entire day no matter which type of
transportation you choose. A day that involves travel is always a full
day lost.
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> ... even gave the Chinese the rights to the technology. All
> in hopes of getting future projects.
Then they must be stupid. If they gave the technology to the Chinese,
why would the Chinese give them any future projects? They can just
build it all themselves.
> TGV from Paris to Nice is about 9 hours.
No, it is 5.5 hours.
A trip by air will take about the same amount of time, door to door.
Remember that there's no waiting on the train, and the travel is from
city center to city center. On the plane, you have to drive 20 km out
of town to get to the airport, arrive 1 hour in advance, wait 30 minutes
to board, wait another 30 minutes for flight delays, spend 45 minutes in
the air, wait 30 minutes to deplane and get your luggage, wait 10
minutes for a taxi, then spend another hour getting into town from the
airport. So the shortest possible trip by air is still just under five
hours in the best of conditions.
This is why the TGV does so well. For trips of less than 1000 km or so,
it's faster and easier.
> Until you get to Provence, there's not much great scenery.
Provence is the worst part. At least most of the rest is green.
> It cost the same as a flight but takes up the better part of the day.
A trip to Nice will take an entire day no matter which type of
transportation you choose. A day that involves travel is always a full
day lost.
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May 4th 2005, 9:27 pm
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Re: Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
poldy writes:
> With the advent of AC, ventilation design has become a lost art.
Like starting fires by rubbing two sticks together?
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> With the advent of AC, ventilation design has become a lost art.
Like starting fires by rubbing two sticks together?
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May 4th 2005, 9:29 pm
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Re: Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
On Thu, 05 May 2005 10:49:27 +0200, Magda <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On Wed, 04 May 2005 19:13:25 -0700, in rec.travel.europe, poldy <[email protected]> arranged
>some electrons, so they looked like this :
> ... In article <[email protected]>,
> ... Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
> ...
> ... > nitram writes:
> ... >
> ... > > This year so far we have managed 30 minutes of temperatures over
> ... > > 25DegC.
> ... >
> ... > In Paris we've managed many hours of such temperatures, and normally
> ... > there should not have been any such extremes this early in the year.
> ...
> ... 25 degrees Celcius is extreme?
>For spring, yes.
Spoken like a real meteorologist. I'm proud of you Magda :-)
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>On Wed, 04 May 2005 19:13:25 -0700, in rec.travel.europe, poldy <[email protected]> arranged
>some electrons, so they looked like this :
> ... In article <[email protected]>,
> ... Mxsmanic <[email protected]> wrote:
> ...
> ... > nitram writes:
> ... >
> ... > > This year so far we have managed 30 minutes of temperatures over
> ... > > 25DegC.
> ... >
> ... > In Paris we've managed many hours of such temperatures, and normally
> ... > there should not have been any such extremes this early in the year.
> ...
> ... 25 degrees Celcius is extreme?
>For spring, yes.
Spoken like a real meteorologist. I'm proud of you Magda :-)
May 4th 2005, 10:07 pm
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Re: Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
Mxsmanic wrote:
> Last I checked, there was no One World Government that made things
> universally legal or illegal.
That's why some dubious surgeons offer low budget surgery on ships
outside the 12 mile zone.
For the part of the world where I currently stay there are valid rules
for air conditioning in hospitals (written down in the mentioned
standard DIN 1946-4). Maybe there are none for Antarctica but as the
risk to get surgery there is similarly low for me as building a hospital
there, I do not really care.
Of course I understand that you are an unrecognized genius and the world
will one day celebrate you for your invention, the method how to create
sterile air. Too bad there's no One World Patent Office either.
Jens
> Last I checked, there was no One World Government that made things
> universally legal or illegal.
That's why some dubious surgeons offer low budget surgery on ships
outside the 12 mile zone.
For the part of the world where I currently stay there are valid rules
for air conditioning in hospitals (written down in the mentioned
standard DIN 1946-4). Maybe there are none for Antarctica but as the
risk to get surgery there is similarly low for me as building a hospital
there, I do not really care.
Of course I understand that you are an unrecognized genius and the world
will one day celebrate you for your invention, the method how to create
sterile air. Too bad there's no One World Patent Office either.
Jens
May 4th 2005, 10:20 pm
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Re: Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
On Thu, 05 May 2005 11:11:00 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Deep Foiled Malls writes:
>> What actions?
>Their constant imitation of American ways, and their eager importing of
>American customs and culture.
>At any given time here in Paris, most of the movies at the cinemas are
>American, and a great many of the television shows are either from the
>United States, or copied directly from U.S. shows under license. Music,
>too, tends to be either imported from abroad (usually the U.S.) or
>copied from American music.
Much of which was copied from Africa and Europe.
wrote:
>Deep Foiled Malls writes:
>> What actions?
>Their constant imitation of American ways, and their eager importing of
>American customs and culture.
>At any given time here in Paris, most of the movies at the cinemas are
>American, and a great many of the television shows are either from the
>United States, or copied directly from U.S. shows under license. Music,
>too, tends to be either imported from abroad (usually the U.S.) or
>copied from American music.
Much of which was copied from Africa and Europe.
May 4th 2005, 10:33 pm
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Re: Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
On Thu, 05 May 2005 11:12:41 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
wrote:
>nitram writes:
>> The one where the top peeled back and fell off ...
>That was a 737; the plane landed safely. I don't recall if anyone was
>hurt (a FA might have been sucked out, I'm not sure).
How about ...
http://www.b737.org.uk/accident_reports.htm
"5 Nov 1990; EI-BZG, 737-300, 24466/1771, Del 2/10/89, Philippine
Airlines; Manila, Philippines:
Centre fuel tank exploded while the aircraft was taxiing for
departure. Eight of the 113 passengers were killed.
The airline had fitted logo lights after delivery which involved
additional wires to be passed through vapour seals in the fuel tanks.
The NTSB recommended to the FAA that an AD be issued requiring
inspections of the fuel boost pumps, float switch and wiring looms as
signs of chafing had been found. The FAA declined to issue the AD!"
" 28 Apr 1988; N73711, 737-200, 20209/152, Del 9/4/69, Aloha; near
Maui, HI:
The aircraft had an explosive decompression at 24,000ft due to metal
fatigue in upper cabin area. The crew was able to execute a successful
emergency landing with a significant portion (8ft x 12ft) of the upper
fuselage missing from aft of the forward entrance door to the leading
edge of the wing. One of the five crew members was killed.
The aircraft was the second highest cycle 737 in the world at 89,193;
the highest also being in the Aloha fleet. The original design life of
the 737 was 75,000 cycles but this had been increased to 130,000 in
1987. However Boeing had been expressing concern at the condition of
three high cycle Aloha aircraft since 1987. The NTSB blamed Aloha for
failure to detect fatigue damage and an inadequate maintenance policy.
Aloha voluntarily scrapped the other two aircraft in July 1988."
"2 Aug 1981; B-2603, 737-200, 19939/151, Del 5/5/69, Far Eastern Air
Transport; near Sanyi, Miaoli, Taiwan:
The aircraft experienced in flight structural failure at 22,000ft. The
crash killed all six crew members and 104 passengers. The aircraft had
experienced rapid depressurisations 2 weeks previously and that
morning, the aircraft was the one built immediately before the Aloha
737 which ripped open in-flight.
The cause was found to be serious belly corrosion, exacerbated by the
fact that the aircraft had been frequently used to carry fish in the
hold. The first 418 737's were susceptible to structural problems as
they were built with a production method of stiffening with bonded
doublers (cold bonding). This was changed to chemical milling."
Only the first 418, so that's ok then.
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>nitram writes:
>> The one where the top peeled back and fell off ...
>That was a 737; the plane landed safely. I don't recall if anyone was
>hurt (a FA might have been sucked out, I'm not sure).
How about ...
http://www.b737.org.uk/accident_reports.htm
"5 Nov 1990; EI-BZG, 737-300, 24466/1771, Del 2/10/89, Philippine
Airlines; Manila, Philippines:
Centre fuel tank exploded while the aircraft was taxiing for
departure. Eight of the 113 passengers were killed.
The airline had fitted logo lights after delivery which involved
additional wires to be passed through vapour seals in the fuel tanks.
The NTSB recommended to the FAA that an AD be issued requiring
inspections of the fuel boost pumps, float switch and wiring looms as
signs of chafing had been found. The FAA declined to issue the AD!"
" 28 Apr 1988; N73711, 737-200, 20209/152, Del 9/4/69, Aloha; near
Maui, HI:
The aircraft had an explosive decompression at 24,000ft due to metal
fatigue in upper cabin area. The crew was able to execute a successful
emergency landing with a significant portion (8ft x 12ft) of the upper
fuselage missing from aft of the forward entrance door to the leading
edge of the wing. One of the five crew members was killed.
The aircraft was the second highest cycle 737 in the world at 89,193;
the highest also being in the Aloha fleet. The original design life of
the 737 was 75,000 cycles but this had been increased to 130,000 in
1987. However Boeing had been expressing concern at the condition of
three high cycle Aloha aircraft since 1987. The NTSB blamed Aloha for
failure to detect fatigue damage and an inadequate maintenance policy.
Aloha voluntarily scrapped the other two aircraft in July 1988."
"2 Aug 1981; B-2603, 737-200, 19939/151, Del 5/5/69, Far Eastern Air
Transport; near Sanyi, Miaoli, Taiwan:
The aircraft experienced in flight structural failure at 22,000ft. The
crash killed all six crew members and 104 passengers. The aircraft had
experienced rapid depressurisations 2 weeks previously and that
morning, the aircraft was the one built immediately before the Aloha
737 which ripped open in-flight.
The cause was found to be serious belly corrosion, exacerbated by the
fact that the aircraft had been frequently used to carry fish in the
hold. The first 418 737's were susceptible to structural problems as
they were built with a production method of stiffening with bonded
doublers (cold bonding). This was changed to chemical milling."
Only the first 418, so that's ok then.
May 4th 2005, 10:34 pm
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Re: Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
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> On Thu, 05 May 2005 11:11:00 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>>Deep Foiled Malls writes:
>>> What actions?
>>Their constant imitation of American ways, and their eager importing of
>>American customs and culture.
>>At any given time here in Paris, most of the movies at the cinemas are
>>American, and a great many of the television shows are either from the
>>United States, or copied directly from U.S. shows under license. Music,
>>too, tends to be either imported from abroad (usually the U.S.) or
>>copied from American music.
> Much of which was copied from Africa and Europe.
It certainly evolved from them but jazz and the blues are hardly
copies of African tribal music or the songs of Robert Schumann
Keith
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> On Thu, 05 May 2005 11:11:00 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>>Deep Foiled Malls writes:
>>> What actions?
>>Their constant imitation of American ways, and their eager importing of
>>American customs and culture.
>>At any given time here in Paris, most of the movies at the cinemas are
>>American, and a great many of the television shows are either from the
>>United States, or copied directly from U.S. shows under license. Music,
>>too, tends to be either imported from abroad (usually the U.S.) or
>>copied from American music.
> Much of which was copied from Africa and Europe.
It certainly evolved from them but jazz and the blues are hardly
copies of African tribal music or the songs of Robert Schumann
Keith
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May 4th 2005, 10:37 pm
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Re: Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
On Thu, 05 May 2005 11:26:14 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
wrote:
>A trip to Nice will take an entire day no matter which type of
>transportation you choose. A day that involves travel is always a full
>day lost.
Odd that I used to do day trips from A'dam to Cannes via Nice and do a
full days work whilst I was there.
Not everybody lives conveniently next to a railway station in the
centre of a big city. Don't reproduce railway propaganda uncritically.
wrote:
>A trip to Nice will take an entire day no matter which type of
>transportation you choose. A day that involves travel is always a full
>day lost.
Odd that I used to do day trips from A'dam to Cannes via Nice and do a
full days work whilst I was there.
Not everybody lives conveniently next to a railway station in the
centre of a big city. Don't reproduce railway propaganda uncritically.
May 4th 2005, 10:39 pm
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Re: Why do Europeans Oppose Window Screens?
On Thu, 05 May 2005 11:27:00 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
wrote:
>poldy writes:
>> With the advent of AC, ventilation design has become a lost art.
>Like starting fires by rubbing two sticks together?
Like designing buildings, so that they are naturally cool in summer
and warm in winter and ventilated.
wrote:
>poldy writes:
>> With the advent of AC, ventilation design has become a lost art.
>Like starting fires by rubbing two sticks together?
Like designing buildings, so that they are naturally cool in summer
and warm in winter and ventilated.
