Venice's plight
Jul 3rd 2007, 1:12 am
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Re: Venice's plight
Iceman <[email protected]> wrote:
>Charge Euro 20 to enter the city by road or rail - that will ensure
>that the Cathy L type bus tourists at least make some non-trivial
>contribution to the city's economy during the four hours they're
>there, without deterring any longer visits or luxury tourists.
>
>Waive the charge for anyone who lives within 100 miles of Venice, and
>for visitors who can show proof of a 3 or more night hotel stay.
Why should I get a waiver is I stay a few nights? I would get a lot
more for my 20 euros that a day-tripper.
The interesting complication would be those visitors who lodged in
Mestre.
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>Charge Euro 20 to enter the city by road or rail - that will ensure
>that the Cathy L type bus tourists at least make some non-trivial
>contribution to the city's economy during the four hours they're
>there, without deterring any longer visits or luxury tourists.
>
>Waive the charge for anyone who lives within 100 miles of Venice, and
>for visitors who can show proof of a 3 or more night hotel stay.
Why should I get a waiver is I stay a few nights? I would get a lot
more for my 20 euros that a day-tripper.
The interesting complication would be those visitors who lodged in
Mestre.
--
PB
The return address has been MUNGED
My travel writing: http://www.iol.ie/~draoi/
Jul 3rd 2007, 1:52 am
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Re: Venice's plight
On Jul 2, 9:12 pm, Padraig Breathnach <[email protected]> wrote:
> Iceman <[email protected]> wrote:
> >Charge Euro 20 to enter the city by road or rail - that will ensure
> >that the Cathy L type bus tourists at least make some non-trivial
> >contribution to the city's economy during the four hours they're
> >there, without deterring any longer visits or luxury tourists.
>
> >Waive the charge for anyone who lives within 100 miles of Venice, and
> >for visitors who can show proof of a 3 or more night hotel stay.
>
> Why should I get a waiver is I stay a few nights? I would get a lot
> more for my 20 euros that a day-tripper.
Because someone who stays 3 or more nights is clearly making a real
contribution to Venice's economy.
> Iceman <[email protected]> wrote:
> >Charge Euro 20 to enter the city by road or rail - that will ensure
> >that the Cathy L type bus tourists at least make some non-trivial
> >contribution to the city's economy during the four hours they're
> >there, without deterring any longer visits or luxury tourists.
>
> >Waive the charge for anyone who lives within 100 miles of Venice, and
> >for visitors who can show proof of a 3 or more night hotel stay.
>
> Why should I get a waiver is I stay a few nights? I would get a lot
> more for my 20 euros that a day-tripper.
Because someone who stays 3 or more nights is clearly making a real
contribution to Venice's economy.
Jul 3rd 2007, 4:47 am
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Re: Venice's plight
On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 00:00:01 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, Martin <[email protected]>
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
... On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 20:18:22 +0200, Magda <mags@de> wrote:
...
... >On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 11:15:17 -0700, in rec.travel.europe, My name is jones frido I was
... >bone in Nigeria <[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like
... >this:
... >
... >What?
... >
... >You used to be a bone??
...
... Through the nose as a decoration?
Boy, that must have been some big nose!
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
... On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 20:18:22 +0200, Magda <mags@de> wrote:
...
... >On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 11:15:17 -0700, in rec.travel.europe, My name is jones frido I was
... >bone in Nigeria <[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like
... >this:
... >
... >What?
... >
... >You used to be a bone??
...
... Through the nose as a decoration?
Boy, that must have been some big nose!
Jul 3rd 2007, 6:37 am
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Re: Venice's plight
On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 10:31:36 +1000, Alan S <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Mon, 2 Jul 2007 13:07:26 -0400, "bob fusillo"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>But for all tourists, and Venetians, Venice is no longer a nice place to
>>visit. Crowded streets, often to the point of standstill, poor food
>>hurriedly dished out, and unabashed overpricing. The queues are painfully
>>long for even lesser attractions.
>>rjf
>
>Not my experience, but then I visited in Spring and early
>Summer, not the peak of the season.
I went a few years ago in August with my sister. Even then, if you got
off the beaten path, it was very pleasant. We visited the Ca'
Rezzonico, which was splendid, uncrowded and air conditioned. We took
a traghetto gondola across the Grand Canal, sharing it with a pair of
Venetian ladies with their shopping. We ate lunch in a shady courtyard
frequented by students. If you go to a very heavily touristed place at
the height of the season, you should try to visit the minor treasures
in that place. Usually you can escape the crowds that way.
I don't think raising the entry fee would help much; Venice is such a
big draw that people would pay a lot more to go there. In certain
circles, the more it cost, the more of a draw it would be. You would
just end up shutting out the less wealthy, most of whom are Italians
who want to see one of the treasures of their own country.
What you could do is limit the amount of parking available or maybe
require advance reservations (limited in number) for tour buses.
People who arrive by plane are almost certainly staying for several
days. People who arrive by train are limited by the number of trains
running. Probably the biggest increase in recent years is in the
number of tour buses arriving, whose only limit is determined by
parking. Even that isn't much of a limit, because they drop off the
tourists and then go elsewhere to park.
Maybe they should divert some of the tourists to Comacchio, which has
canals and gondolas (cheap, even) and could use a little tourism. They
already call themselves "Little Venice". Maybe they could convince
some Chinese tourists that it *is* Venice.
http://www.comacchio.it/images/zoom/Monumenti/mon11.jpg
--
Barbara Vaughan
My email address is my first initial followed by my surname at libero dot it
I answer travel questions only in the newsgroup
>On Mon, 2 Jul 2007 13:07:26 -0400, "bob fusillo"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>But for all tourists, and Venetians, Venice is no longer a nice place to
>>visit. Crowded streets, often to the point of standstill, poor food
>>hurriedly dished out, and unabashed overpricing. The queues are painfully
>>long for even lesser attractions.
>>rjf
>
>Not my experience, but then I visited in Spring and early
>Summer, not the peak of the season.
I went a few years ago in August with my sister. Even then, if you got
off the beaten path, it was very pleasant. We visited the Ca'
Rezzonico, which was splendid, uncrowded and air conditioned. We took
a traghetto gondola across the Grand Canal, sharing it with a pair of
Venetian ladies with their shopping. We ate lunch in a shady courtyard
frequented by students. If you go to a very heavily touristed place at
the height of the season, you should try to visit the minor treasures
in that place. Usually you can escape the crowds that way.
I don't think raising the entry fee would help much; Venice is such a
big draw that people would pay a lot more to go there. In certain
circles, the more it cost, the more of a draw it would be. You would
just end up shutting out the less wealthy, most of whom are Italians
who want to see one of the treasures of their own country.
What you could do is limit the amount of parking available or maybe
require advance reservations (limited in number) for tour buses.
People who arrive by plane are almost certainly staying for several
days. People who arrive by train are limited by the number of trains
running. Probably the biggest increase in recent years is in the
number of tour buses arriving, whose only limit is determined by
parking. Even that isn't much of a limit, because they drop off the
tourists and then go elsewhere to park.
Maybe they should divert some of the tourists to Comacchio, which has
canals and gondolas (cheap, even) and could use a little tourism. They
already call themselves "Little Venice". Maybe they could convince
some Chinese tourists that it *is* Venice.
http://www.comacchio.it/images/zoom/Monumenti/mon11.jpg
--
Barbara Vaughan
My email address is my first initial followed by my surname at libero dot it
I answer travel questions only in the newsgroup
Jul 3rd 2007, 7:20 am
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Re: Venice's plight
"Martin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 20:45:06 +0200, Magda <mags@de> wrote:
>
> >On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 11:29:32 -0700, in rec.travel.europe, My name is
jones frido I was
> >bone in Nigeria <[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so
they looked like
> >this:
> >
> > ... On 2 Jul, 20:18, Magda <mags@de> wrote:
> > ... > On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 11:15:17 -0700, in rec.travel.europe, My name
is jones frido I was
> > ... > bone in Nigeria <[email protected]> arranged some
electrons, so they looked like
> > ... > this:
> > ... >
> > ... > What?
> > ... >
> > ... > You used to be a bone??
> > ...
> > ... and it continues.........
> > ...
> > ... Good day
> > ...
> > ... Sir/madam
> > ...
> > ... My name is jones frido I was bone in Nigeria .
> > ... Sir/madam me and my family have a plane crash accident on how way
> > ... coming from china.but I thank GOD I was survive whit my anty. And
> > ... where left whit nothing. I want to us this opportunity to look for
> > ... help from you ,may be you can help me and secure a job in your
> > ... country,I mean any job to do.
> > ...
> > ... As you do this may GOD almighty bless you and your family.
> > ...
> > ... Thanks and god bless.
> > ...
> > ... >From jones frido
> > ... 2348024494387
> >
> >So, they had money to fly to China and back?
>
> It was Meissenware.
> --
He's already said Bone China.
Surreyman
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> On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 20:45:06 +0200, Magda <mags@de> wrote:
>
> >On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 11:29:32 -0700, in rec.travel.europe, My name is
jones frido I was
> >bone in Nigeria <[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so
they looked like
> >this:
> >
> > ... On 2 Jul, 20:18, Magda <mags@de> wrote:
> > ... > On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 11:15:17 -0700, in rec.travel.europe, My name
is jones frido I was
> > ... > bone in Nigeria <[email protected]> arranged some
electrons, so they looked like
> > ... > this:
> > ... >
> > ... > What?
> > ... >
> > ... > You used to be a bone??
> > ...
> > ... and it continues.........
> > ...
> > ... Good day
> > ...
> > ... Sir/madam
> > ...
> > ... My name is jones frido I was bone in Nigeria .
> > ... Sir/madam me and my family have a plane crash accident on how way
> > ... coming from china.but I thank GOD I was survive whit my anty. And
> > ... where left whit nothing. I want to us this opportunity to look for
> > ... help from you ,may be you can help me and secure a job in your
> > ... country,I mean any job to do.
> > ...
> > ... As you do this may GOD almighty bless you and your family.
> > ...
> > ... Thanks and god bless.
> > ...
> > ... >From jones frido
> > ... 2348024494387
> >
> >So, they had money to fly to China and back?
>
> It was Meissenware.
> --
He's already said Bone China.
Surreyman
Jul 3rd 2007, 8:31 am
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Re: Venice's plight
On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 06:47:07 +0200, Magda <mags@gr> wrote:
>On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 00:00:01 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, Martin <[email protected]>
>arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
>
> ... On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 20:18:22 +0200, Magda <mags@de> wrote:
> ...
> ... >On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 11:15:17 -0700, in rec.travel.europe, My name is jones frido I was
> ... >bone in Nigeria <[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like
> ... >this:
> ... >
> ... >What?
> ... >
> ... >You used to be a bone??
> ...
> ... Through the nose as a decoration?
>
>Boy, that must have been some big nose!
or a small bone?
--
Martin
>On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 00:00:01 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, Martin <[email protected]>
>arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
>
> ... On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 20:18:22 +0200, Magda <mags@de> wrote:
> ...
> ... >On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 11:15:17 -0700, in rec.travel.europe, My name is jones frido I was
> ... >bone in Nigeria <[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like
> ... >this:
> ... >
> ... >What?
> ... >
> ... >You used to be a bone??
> ...
> ... Through the nose as a decoration?
>
>Boy, that must have been some big nose!
or a small bone?
--
Martin
Jul 3rd 2007, 9:20 am
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Re: Venice's plight
"bob fusillo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]. ..
<< For years there have been many attempts to thin the mobs of tourists,
especially the non-spending but heavily polluting day-trippers, but to no
avail.>>
Bob,
Here is a book recently published which might be on the right track.
Many a true word said in jest!
Second Venice, The (Paperback)
by Askin Ozcan (Author)
Synopsis
As the Italian Government puts a limit on the number of tourists to Venice,
to protect it from destruction and pollution, an American consortium
(McBigBite and Pshht Cola) build beside the real Venice a "Second Venice"
which is "bigger and better". This book is the ludicrous story of life in
this fake Venice. With its fake canals and gondolas, its fake museums and
fake paintings, its "Fake Films" festival, congresses and college and dog
shows, the Second Venice attracts a sizeable tourist crowd to compete with
the real Venice. Spy stories and thieves as well as heated discussions in
its pubs, among tourists of various nationalities add a spice to this
marvellous humoristic masterpiece. Finally, a sheikh buys The Second Venice
at a bargain price, kidnapping the daughter of a friendly family - a major
shareholder of the city. Chapter after chapter this book will make you laugh
and will be a pleasant addition to your "humour" library.
news:[email protected]. ..
<< For years there have been many attempts to thin the mobs of tourists,
especially the non-spending but heavily polluting day-trippers, but to no
avail.>>
Bob,
Here is a book recently published which might be on the right track.
Many a true word said in jest!
Second Venice, The (Paperback)
by Askin Ozcan (Author)
Synopsis
As the Italian Government puts a limit on the number of tourists to Venice,
to protect it from destruction and pollution, an American consortium
(McBigBite and Pshht Cola) build beside the real Venice a "Second Venice"
which is "bigger and better". This book is the ludicrous story of life in
this fake Venice. With its fake canals and gondolas, its fake museums and
fake paintings, its "Fake Films" festival, congresses and college and dog
shows, the Second Venice attracts a sizeable tourist crowd to compete with
the real Venice. Spy stories and thieves as well as heated discussions in
its pubs, among tourists of various nationalities add a spice to this
marvellous humoristic masterpiece. Finally, a sheikh buys The Second Venice
at a bargain price, kidnapping the daughter of a friendly family - a major
shareholder of the city. Chapter after chapter this book will make you laugh
and will be a pleasant addition to your "humour" library.
Jul 3rd 2007, 1:52 pm
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"Alan S" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 2 Jul 2007 13:07:26 -0400, "bob fusillo"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>But for all tourists, and Venetians, Venice is no longer a nice place to
>>visit. Crowded streets, often to the point of standstill, poor food
>>hurriedly dished out, and unabashed overpricing. The queues are painfully
>>long for even lesser attractions.
>>rjf
>
> Not my experience, but then I visited in Spring and early
> Summer, not the peak of the season.
>
At Easter weekend, the woman upstairs, who normally takes ten mnutes to
get to work near the Rialto, was 25 minutes pushing her way thru the mobs--
and this in mid-morning. If you live here, you see the problem -- the
tourist tends to see things thru rosy coloured glasses.
rjf
news:[email protected]...
> On Mon, 2 Jul 2007 13:07:26 -0400, "bob fusillo"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>But for all tourists, and Venetians, Venice is no longer a nice place to
>>visit. Crowded streets, often to the point of standstill, poor food
>>hurriedly dished out, and unabashed overpricing. The queues are painfully
>>long for even lesser attractions.
>>rjf
>
> Not my experience, but then I visited in Spring and early
> Summer, not the peak of the season.
>
At Easter weekend, the woman upstairs, who normally takes ten mnutes to
get to work near the Rialto, was 25 minutes pushing her way thru the mobs--
and this in mid-morning. If you live here, you see the problem -- the
tourist tends to see things thru rosy coloured glasses.
rjf
Jul 3rd 2007, 1:53 pm
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bob fusillo <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Alan S" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > On Mon, 2 Jul 2007 13:07:26 -0400, "bob fusillo"
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>But for all tourists, and Venetians, Venice is no longer a nice place to
> >>visit. Crowded streets, often to the point of standstill, poor food
> >>hurriedly dished out, and unabashed overpricing. The queues are painfully
> >>long for even lesser attractions.
> >>rjf
> >
> > Not my experience, but then I visited in Spring and early
> > Summer, not the peak of the season.
> >
> At Easter weekend, the woman upstairs, who normally takes ten mnutes to
> get to work near the Rialto, was 25 minutes pushing her way thru the mobs--
> and this in mid-morning. If you live here, you see the problem -- the
> tourist tends to see things thru rosy coloured glasses.
Much of the businesses there depend on tourism though, so it's a
balancing act. Maybe extra tourist taxes would help.
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
> "Alan S" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > On Mon, 2 Jul 2007 13:07:26 -0400, "bob fusillo"
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>But for all tourists, and Venetians, Venice is no longer a nice place to
> >>visit. Crowded streets, often to the point of standstill, poor food
> >>hurriedly dished out, and unabashed overpricing. The queues are painfully
> >>long for even lesser attractions.
> >>rjf
> >
> > Not my experience, but then I visited in Spring and early
> > Summer, not the peak of the season.
> >
> At Easter weekend, the woman upstairs, who normally takes ten mnutes to
> get to work near the Rialto, was 25 minutes pushing her way thru the mobs--
> and this in mid-morning. If you live here, you see the problem -- the
> tourist tends to see things thru rosy coloured glasses.
Much of the businesses there depend on tourism though, so it's a
balancing act. Maybe extra tourist taxes would help.
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
http://www.davidhorne.net - real address on website
"Abominable, loyal, blind, apparently subservient."
Pres. Carter on Pres. Blair- May, 2007
Jul 3rd 2007, 3:30 pm
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Re: Venice's plight
Following up to Alan S <[email protected]> wrote:
>Not my experience, but then I visited in Spring and early
>Summer, not the peak of the season.
I went in November, food away from the main places was fine, but I
took one look at St Marks square and turned around, way too crowded,
even then.
--
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>Not my experience, but then I visited in Spring and early
>Summer, not the peak of the season.
I went in November, food away from the main places was fine, but I
took one look at St Marks square and turned around, way too crowded,
even then.
--
Mike Reid
Cutty Sark appeal"http://www.cuttysark.org.uk"
to email remove clothing.
Jul 3rd 2007, 4:53 pm
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Following up to Doesn't Frequently Mop
<deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>>The interesting complication would be those visitors who lodged in
>>Mestre.
>
>Anyone staying in Mestre deserves to pay for their cheapness!
i stayed in Chioggia and paid for a hotel, then arrived by boat, how
do I stand?
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<deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>>The interesting complication would be those visitors who lodged in
>>Mestre.
>
>Anyone staying in Mestre deserves to pay for their cheapness!
i stayed in Chioggia and paid for a hotel, then arrived by boat, how
do I stand?
--
Mike Reid
Cutty Sark appeal"http://www.cuttysark.org.uk"
to email remove clothing.
Jul 3rd 2007, 4:58 pm
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On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 10:31:34 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, Martin <[email protected]>
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
... On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 06:47:07 +0200, Magda <mags@gr> wrote:
...
... >On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 00:00:01 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, Martin <[email protected]>
... >arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
... >
... > ... On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 20:18:22 +0200, Magda <mags@de> wrote:
... > ...
... > ... >On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 11:15:17 -0700, in rec.travel.europe, My name is jones frido I was
... > ... >bone in Nigeria <[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like
... > ... >this:
... > ... >
... > ... >What?
... > ... >
... > ... >You used to be a bone??
... > ...
... > ... Through the nose as a decoration?
... >
... >Boy, that must have been some big nose!
...
... or a small bone?
I'm sure Michael is taller than me, at least.
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
... On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 06:47:07 +0200, Magda <mags@gr> wrote:
...
... >On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 00:00:01 +0200, in rec.travel.europe, Martin <[email protected]>
... >arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
... >
... > ... On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 20:18:22 +0200, Magda <mags@de> wrote:
... > ...
... > ... >On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 11:15:17 -0700, in rec.travel.europe, My name is jones frido I was
... > ... >bone in Nigeria <[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like
... > ... >this:
... > ... >
... > ... >What?
... > ... >
... > ... >You used to be a bone??
... > ...
... > ... Through the nose as a decoration?
... >
... >Boy, that must have been some big nose!
...
... or a small bone?
I'm sure Michael is taller than me, at least.
Jul 3rd 2007, 5:03 pm
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Re: Venice's plight
Make credence recognised that on Tue, 03 Jul 2007 02:12:24 +0100,
Padraig Breathnach <[email protected]> has scripted:
>Iceman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Charge Euro 20 to enter the city by road or rail - that will ensure
>>that the Cathy L type bus tourists at least make some non-trivial
>>contribution to the city's economy during the four hours they're
>>there, without deterring any longer visits or luxury tourists.
>>
>>Waive the charge for anyone who lives within 100 miles of Venice, and
>>for visitors who can show proof of a 3 or more night hotel stay.
>
>Why should I get a waiver is I stay a few nights? I would get a lot
>more for my 20 euros that a day-tripper.
>
>The interesting complication would be those visitors who lodged in
>Mestre.
Anyone staying in Mestre deserves to pay for their cheapness!
--
---
DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com
---
--
Padraig Breathnach <[email protected]> has scripted:
>Iceman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Charge Euro 20 to enter the city by road or rail - that will ensure
>>that the Cathy L type bus tourists at least make some non-trivial
>>contribution to the city's economy during the four hours they're
>>there, without deterring any longer visits or luxury tourists.
>>
>>Waive the charge for anyone who lives within 100 miles of Venice, and
>>for visitors who can show proof of a 3 or more night hotel stay.
>
>Why should I get a waiver is I stay a few nights? I would get a lot
>more for my 20 euros that a day-tripper.
>
>The interesting complication would be those visitors who lodged in
>Mestre.
Anyone staying in Mestre deserves to pay for their cheapness!
--
---
DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com
---
--
Jul 3rd 2007, 5:23 pm
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Make credence recognised that on Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:30:15 +0100, The
Reid <[email protected]> has scripted:
>Following up to Alan S <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Not my experience, but then I visited in Spring and early
>>Summer, not the peak of the season.
>
>I went in November, food away from the main places was fine, but I
>took one look at St Marks square and turned around, way too crowded,
>even then.
How crowded could it be? It's huge!
--
---
DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com
---
--
Reid <[email protected]> has scripted:
>Following up to Alan S <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Not my experience, but then I visited in Spring and early
>>Summer, not the peak of the season.
>
>I went in November, food away from the main places was fine, but I
>took one look at St Marks square and turned around, way too crowded,
>even then.
How crowded could it be? It's huge!
--
---
DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com
---
--
Jul 3rd 2007, 5:33 pm
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Re: Venice's plight
On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 19:23:20 +0200, Doesn't Frequently Mop
<deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>Make credence recognised that on Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:30:15 +0100, The
>Reid <[email protected]> has scripted:
>
>>Following up to Alan S <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>Not my experience, but then I visited in Spring and early
>>>Summer, not the peak of the season.
>>
>>I went in November, food away from the main places was fine, but I
>>took one look at St Marks square and turned around, way too crowded,
>>even then.
>
>How crowded could it be? It's huge!
"Doesn't Frequently Mop"?
Heh.
<deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:
>Make credence recognised that on Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:30:15 +0100, The
>Reid <[email protected]> has scripted:
>
>>Following up to Alan S <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>Not my experience, but then I visited in Spring and early
>>>Summer, not the peak of the season.
>>
>>I went in November, food away from the main places was fine, but I
>>took one look at St Marks square and turned around, way too crowded,
>>even then.
>
>How crowded could it be? It's huge!
"Doesn't Frequently Mop"?
Heh.