Nitram

On Thu, 26 May 2005 19:50:55 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >nitram writes:
    >> I hadn't realised that the service was already included in the bill by
    >> law in France as well as in the Netherlands. Can I have my money back.
    >It is not required by law, it is simply a widespread custom.

One of you must be wrong.

Nitram

On Thu, 26 May 2005 19:52:55 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >Daniel Masse writes:
    >> If one were to follow your advice, one would never use a bank card... If you
    >> know the number and the expiry date of a card - whether the card is magnetic
    >> or with a chip - you may order from many shops by telephone...
    >But you are only bound to the charges in France if you've used your PIN.
    >Foreign cards don't require PINs, so they are ripe for fraud.

SOME foreign cards ...

Dutch cards all need a PIN.

My UK cards need a PIN too.

Nitram

On Thu, 26 May 2005 21:58:40 +0200, Erick T. Barkhuis
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >nitram [on Thu, 26 May 2005 21:57:11 +0200] wrote:
    >> On Thu, 26 May 2005 15:55:18 +0200, [email protected]
    >> (Stanislas de Kertanguy) wrote:
    >>
    >> >Norm <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> >
    >> >> Do restaurants and cafes in France generally take credit cards.
    >> >
    >> >Yes. But be prepared for waiter unfriendiness if you want to pay a bill
    >> >under 10 euros (in a café for example) with a CC.
    >> Who gives a shit about what waiters think?
    >Perhaps those who like to return to the same place frequently, and prefer
    >to be treated nicely.

but then *you* wouldn't try to pay with a credit card?

Rock Roll

How much tip you give them in restaurant, is that tip is included in
price?